steelboy

the coverage we get on sportsound is shocking. i've switched from training it to most away games to travelling by car and no matter how we are doing we barely merit a mention.

If you could have afforded not to and been confident of getting another job in your industry would you have? He'd been earning six figures for the past three years so he's not exactly in the same boat as most of us.

True. However their fans were unbearable when they were spending mad vlad's cash and the amount of delusional pish i used to hear in the balmoral bar pre and post match about them being a big club means I've little sympathy for them. We'll just have to double down on Easter road.

hopefully we sign off in style for our last gorgie trip for the foreseeable future. take plenty of pictures, we might never be back!

the guy didn't want to take a significant pay cut to do the same job. i don't think you can blame anyone who does that.

we had the game with power outage against united and the fire against hibs. a few years further back we had a game against hearts put off because of snowy conditions outside the ground and a game against (i think) dunfermline put off due to frozen pipes. you would have to go back to, i think, mcghee for a game put off due to the pitch although there probably would have been a few under brown if there was actually any prospect of the pitch improving before the end of the season.

30th of January 1972. There's no teams or scorers on soccerbase though. How long did you stay?

http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=1734&team2_id=2081&teamTabs=h2h The all time head to is here, I'm quite surprised to see they are a good bit ahead of us overall. We've no wins at all there since January 97 which considering we must have won at 30 plus grounds since then makes it notable. I'm confident we'll get the three points on Sunday though and change that. Hopefully it'll be a good atmosphere similar to the game at Tynecastle on the same date a few years ago.

Beating a decent team is a big monkey off our backs. The bbc have us down as only having two shots but a win is a win. Delighted for the people who travelled up.

40 mins without a shot. Dire. Edit just had one apparently. Might get another in the second half.

We were playing for a draw in the cup game so it was always going to be the same today. How bad is open all mikes? There's six games on and these wallopers are talking about brookside.

Keith by a mile. Set up the first goal, won the ball for the second goal and dominated the middle of the park.

Let them go. When our season was in the balance they were nowhere. When their loans were in the balance they gave 100%. Wasters.

Before today I would happily have chased Anier and ainsworth but I'm almost thinking twice after that. They both did well today but when it counted in the cups they both disappeared so it's nae loss if we can't afford to keep them. Both them of them made it look like they are keen to stay but I feel Rotherham and stravnger are calling. Too little too late. Sutton and lasley were immense today.

I wouldn't have given Hateley the money in the summer but I think we miss him going forward while I don't think McManus adds much. The smart thing to do would have been to let Hateley go, ignore McManus and sign a cheap attacking full back and invest a decent wage in a good goalie or creative player but that would probably have required more effort than McCall is willing to put in.

We didn't lose any centrehalfs in the summer so I don't think we were desperate at that position. We were doing better with Ramsden/cummins/Kerr in beside hutchy last season than we are currently. We have a highly paid, experienced back four and they have only managed to concede a goal less than Partick thistle and three less than the kids hearts are fielding at the back. McManus isn't jusitfying his wages and when you look at the guys at inverness, st Johnstone and Dundee Utd who are doing better than him it's clear he is a waste of money (admittedly not on the Faddy scale). The entire Inverness back four combined probably get the same wage as McManus. We'll no doubt extend his contract though as McCall continues his tactic of signing whoever involves the least amount of hassle.

the initial response was was so succesful because people wanted to get the society off the ground. Now you are asking people to put their hand in their pocket to pay for something that MIGHT happen in ten years. People need to think that their money is making a difference. There will be a good chunk of the society dead in ten years ffs. The sooner we get near the final total the less concern there will be about contributions being wasted either due to the total not beig reached or the trustees currently controlling the club spending the money. I don't think the club as a going concern is worth the valuation they have placed on it and that is surely backed up by the lack of interest in buying it over the past ten years. It was mentioned before that unless the shares are traded for a certain amount boyle gets a tax bill but that's not our problem (and he's dodged enough of them anyway). Lowering the price is the best way of achieving the society's primary objective and if the directors of the society aren't willing to attempt it then they aren't representing the members properly.

the 1.5m valuation of the club is a nonsense and the society needs to get the price down. Blindly accepeting the valuation put on the club before the soicety was eveb formed is madness when there is only buyer and the trustees can't afford to run the club on their own.

no one is going to put money in when you talk about seeing results in ten years time. It's too far down the road plus there is always the chance that weir, dempster and the rest of the trustees will spend the money at some point to finance their loss making stewardship. Unless the people running the society make achieving fan ownership as soon as possible the primary goal it wither away. Until i think they are actually doing that i won't be putting in another penny.

how did vigurs and lawson get this reputation as quality players? They played in a 4 man centre midfield for a county team who even in the first division were known for shitfesting games. Good players don't get stuck in the scottish lower leagues for five years or more like these two duds.

there were definitely some posters pointing out the lack of quality in the summer signings. You can make a case for them all individually but collectively the squad is a shambles and the buck stops with mccall. Between extensions, new signings and loans he's dished out about a dozen contracts recently so he has clearly had a decent level of resources available to him. With the club walking a financial tightrope i don't think we can afford to give him that financial leeway again. Mcghee, gannon and brown were all the right men at the right time but when circumstances changed they weren't up to the new task. Mccall is the same for me, he was the ideal man to run a steady ship when we had quality compared to the rest of the league but the task at hand has changed and i don't think he is cut out for it.

the majority of the 50 quid doesn't even end up with the society. If you take the season ticket discount that takes up the majority of the 50 quid and i'd guess other benefits and admin eats up the rest. The society has to have a viable future as no one else is putting any money into the club. The options are trustees who invest nothing or the society who invest something. The society model is obviously better.

he had a chance to build a squad this year and failed badly. Every single poster on here was looking for us to add pace and creativity and he signed guys with no speed or guile. Sacking him isn't a priority because no one is going to get this squad playing good football and we're not going to have any money to sign many players next summer. Our budget will make most of the choices for us in the foreseeable future. The biggest decision is whether or not to extend lasley and hammell and to a lesser extent mcmanus or bring in younger cheaper players.

Going forward we need to find a way to ditch our manager and the vast majority of our squad without costing us anything or accept we are going to be terrible until August 2015 and cut the budget to the bare minimum until then.

We played some great stuff under brown. 3 goal wins at pittodrie and rugby park, three absolute hammerings of hearts, sticking 4 past st johnstone, aalesunds, 6-6 and 3-3. Not bad for less than a year.