underboyleheating Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 As a word of caution, here a few random quotes pre Albion Rovers. Even MJC took us for an easy win. Delighted with that a piss easy tie that we will win comfortably should get through easy enough Great draw, a nice easy starter for us The main thing is its a bye tae the next round. Can't see us not being in the 5th round draw! Can't see us having any problems getting through the tie Should be scoring 5 or 6 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 That title has never stopped lower league teams from beating us in the past. Albion Rovers, anyone? The only loser in this tie is us. If we get beat (god forbid), it will go down as one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Scottish Cup. If we win, we will have done what the majority will expect us to do. Failing to win this one, IS NOT AN OPTION! Yes part timers ie Albion Rovers have beaten us, when at the time McCall put out a badly prepared and shit team on that Dodgy plastic at NDP. This time we are at home with a better looking squad and if McGhee gets them prepared properly, this will be a routine victory, but no doubt the pant wetters will suffer sleepless nights until the job is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 From memory, though, McGhee didn't have a stellar Cup record with us last time around. Still think we'll win this game, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 a home tie was all I wanted as for the game I just hope McGhee doesn't think it going to be walk over and picks a strong team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Financially, if we played them away, it would have covered the petrol and the hotel rooms. To stage a game at FP it's approx £25k so when you half the gate money from a home support of what .... 3k plus 200 teuchters paying on average £12 a ticket we'll probably make a small loss, best case break even. How can it be £25k to stage a a game? Maybe it works out that way if you split the costs of certain things over the season between the total games but to add a fixture can't be that much surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 How can it be £25k to stage a a game? Maybe it works out that way if you split the costs of certain things over the season between the total games but to add a fixture can't be that much surely. In reference to Goggles and Flippers original email. I would also hope to get more than 3k home fans for the first round proper of the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I would also hope to get more than 3k home fans for the first round proper of the cup for us. I wouldn't be so sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 In reference to Goggles and Flippers original email. I would also hope to get more than 3k home fans for the first round proper of the cup. Unless it's a fiver a pop, we'll be lucky to get 1500 through the gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 From memory, the home end was empty for the United game last year. Hopefully the return to January makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 To progress in the competition, as good a draw as you can hope for. Financially, if we played them away, it would have covered the petrol and the hotel rooms. To stage a game at FP it's approx £25k so when you half the gate money from a home support of what .... 3k plus 200 teuchters paying on average £12 a ticket we'll probably make a small loss, best case break even. A good draw for us and I'm quite happy with that. As far as the gate is concerned, I always understood it is split 3 ways: 33% to cover costs, 33% to home side and 33% to away team. Given that season tickets are not valid we should make a modest profit or, at worst, cover our costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshillWell Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 We'll draw Formatine and Lawson will score the winning goal! This.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Unless it's a fiver a pop, we'll be lucky to get 1500 through the gate. Bet ye we get more than that. Tenner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StipeIsGod Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Good draw. Should be fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 i'm basing it on what Leeann Dempster told me how much it cost to stage a standard game at FP. More if it's a higher category and more stewards/cops are required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 7-0 Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Formartine are a good side,spent an insane amount of money for a highland league team (£30-40k signing fee for Paul Lawson, £40k transfer fee to Fraserburgh for Scott Barbour,£30k to Keith for Cammy Keith,£20k signing fee for Jamie Masson from Aberdeen,several other transfer and signing fees and compo of around £30k for Kris Hunter and their new management team. So its not just senior and junior clubs that are completely irresponsible with money? Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweed Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 As far as the gate is concerned, I always understood it is split 3 ways: 33% to cover costs, 33% to home side and 33% to away team. Given that season tickets are not valid we should make a modest profit or, at worst, cover our costs. I thought it was split 50/50 after costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I thought it was split 50/50 after costs. Me too. The costs don't change because an extra 1000 people turn up so it would be daft to it any other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I thought it was split 50/50 after costs. Maybe. It was Stewart Robertson who told me there was a 3 way split - perhaps just a rule of thumb division? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Safe to say as far as the club is concerned, the means we reached the final in 2011 is probably the perfect way financially and competitively to progress. 4th Round - Dundee (a) 5th Round - Stranraer (a) QF - Dundee Utd (a) replay at home SF - St Johnstone (Hampden) Early rounds ideally away against little teams to ensure progress and save on costs. Later rounds against better opposition ideally your draw gets TV coverage and at home for potential advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 A good draw for us and I'm quite happy with that. As far as the gate is concerned, I always understood it is split 3 ways: 33% to cover costs, 33% to home side and 33% to away team. Given that season tickets are not valid we should make a modest profit or, at worst, cover our costs. Only last years rules are published on the SFA site, usually not much chage year on year, and certainly usually get a public airing if there is change: http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/SFAPublications/ScottishFAPublications2013-14/Cup%20competition%20rules.pdf Rule 41 c) extract is 5% of all monies received go to the SFA, hosting club can retain 20% for costs and remainder split equally between clubs, providing it is more than the Guarantee. Quite a few rules in there about deductions for season tickets, complimentary , allocation to visitors etc minimum pricing £8 if I read it correctly.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Decent draw. One even better thing is Cove's striker and best player moves to Australia this month, he has scored over 20 so far I believe so will weaken them majorly. Formartine are a good side,spent an insane amount of money for a highland league team (£30-40k signing fee for Paul Lawson, £40k transfer fee to Fraserburgh for Scott Barbour,£30k to Keith for Cammy Keith,£20k signing fee for Jamie Masson from Aberdeen,several other transfer and signing fees and compo of around £30k for Kris Hunter and their new management team. They might be spending money but if 40k went on Lawson and the rest are of similar quality...then we should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Rule 41 c) extract is 5% of all monies received go to the SFA, Didn't know that Iain. Not only that, its payable within 3 days!! In my view whats sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander. Now why can't the SFA stump up monies due to clubs within 3 days (as opposed to several months). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 So its not just senior and junior clubs that are completely irresponsible with money? Unbelievable. Wrong, they can comfortably afford to spend at the level they are. They have been a financially well backed side for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Gretna were also a financially well backed side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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