weeyin Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 6 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said: Definitely both 3-0 games against today's opponents, the cup semi when Moult scored twice and a good few other games were good that season . He came in and there was a feeling good factor for a while I certainly don't dislike the man , and would be desperate to see us put one over him if we meet at Hampden , or in any other game I don't dislike the man either, but for most of his time in charge, the football was brutal to watch. As you might have guessed from some of my posts, I also got fed up with his "have to earn the right to play football" spiel as an excuse for hoofball. I said at the time that good teams play their game from the kickoff, and JBA has proved that already this season. No doubt, as the years pass, he will get better and better, but I imagine if you go back to some of the match threads from those seasons, there will more complaints than praise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 7 minutes ago, weeyin said: Lennon Miller state of play as Scotland ace awaits debut Udinese boss Kosta Runjaic has promised Scotland starlet Lennon Miller he will soon be in his plans once he gets up to speed. The former Motherwell midfielder has yet to kick a ball for his new club following his £6 million move to Serie A in the summer. The only football he's played this season has been for Scotland as a last-minute sub in the 2-0 World Cup win in Hungary against Belarus. Miller, 19, hasn't played a domestic game since May, but Runjaic has revealed he will soon introduce Miller into his line-up He explained: "We certainly don't need to teach Lennon Miller how to play football. He knows how to play all right. "But he needs to go through this integration period, given that he hasn't played much in the last month. "He's very diligent and is making excellent progress. "I'm very happy he's here." What a lot of managerial bollocks. Just put him on the park and let him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 6 minutes ago, weeyin said: I don't dislike the man either, but for most of his time in charge, the football was brutal to watch. As you might have guessed from some of my posts, I also got fed up with his "have to earn the right to play football" spiel as an excuse for hoofball. I said at the time that good teams play their game from the kickoff, and JBA has proved that already this season. No doubt, as the years pass, he will get better and better, but I imagine if you go back to some of the match threads from those seasons, there will more complaints than praise Yes maybe buts it's results that are remembered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 4 minutes ago, weeyin said: I don't dislike the man either, but for most of his time in charge, the football was brutal to watch. As you might have guessed from some of my posts, I also got fed up with his "have to earn the right to play football" spiel as an excuse for hoofball. I said at the time that good teams play their game from the kickoff, and JBA has proved that already this season. No doubt, as the years pass, he will get better and better, but I imagine if you go back to some of the match threads from those seasons, there will more complaints than praise Very true , quite happy to focus on the present and hopefully a win today and another trip to Hampden As great as 1991 was/is I am desperate to see another cup win in either of the cups Something most under the age of 40 have no real memory of apart from watching videos of it and hearing stories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 8 minutes ago, wellfan said: What a lot of managerial bollocks. Just put him on the park and let him play. This is why it's a good thing fans don't actually manage professional footballers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 16 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said: I certainly don't dislike the man , and would be desperate to see us put one over him if we meet at Hampden , or in any other game I liked him and will be forever grateful for that season but under no circumstances would I want to see him be successful anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 Turnbull back playing 90 for Cardiff. Devante scored for Port Vale in their win, with Ben Heneghan also in the lineup. Declan "gun to his head" Gallagher git sent off for Ross County in another loss for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 5 hours ago, wellfan said: What a lot of managerial bollocks. Just put him on the park and let him play. He will get his chance eventually, it's a huge change for him. New language, country etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 21 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: He will get his chance eventually, it's a huge change for him. New language, country etc Football is football, regardless of language or country. You’d think from some comments that every player at Motherwell is Scottish. My earlier point was aimed at what I see as managerial bollocks, not at the fact a player has moved from one country to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 Lennon Miller not even on bench tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 27 minutes ago, Richie said: Lennon Miller not even on bench tonight I think he is a sub tonight? He’s definitely listed there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, Richie said: Lennon Miller not even on bench tonight He came on in 81 mins. They were 3 nil down to Milan by that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, wellfan said: Football is football, regardless of language or country. You’d think from some comments that every player at Motherwell is Scottish. My earlier point was aimed at what I see as managerial bollocks, not at the fact a player has moved from one country to another. If he'd played any games this season before we sold him he'd be getting played sooner. It's not exactly UEFA Pro License science to think that he needs a few weeks to integrate and get match fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 9 minutes ago, weeyin said: If he'd played any games this season before we sold him he'd be getting played sooner. It's not exactly UEFA Pro License science to think that he needs a few weeks to integrate and get match fit. Ten minutes at 3–0 down for his debut. Some man management. That’s UEFA Pro Licence science for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 10 minutes ago, wellfan said: Ten minutes at 3–0 down for his debut. Some man management. That’s UEFA Pro Licence science for you. Its 10 minutes more than he had last week. Next week he might get 30. The week after he might get a start. Willing to bet thats the most minutes any 19 year old Scot has had in Serie A. Having watched their game against Inter, they have some seriously good midfielders. Its not Harry Paton keeping him out the team..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 55 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Its not Harry Paton keeping him out the team..... It was that UEFA Pro Licence science keeping him out of the team until 81 mins tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderlips Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 3 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: Its 10 minutes more than he had last week. Next week he might get 30. The week after he might get a start. Willing to bet thats the most minutes any 19 year old Scot has had in Serie A. Having watched their game against Inter, they have some seriously good midfielders. Its not Harry Paton keeping him out the team..... Funny that you mention Harry Paton. Apparently he has signed with Forge FC, a Canadian Premier League team that play their games in Hamilton (Ontario). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 5 hours ago, wellfan said: Ten minutes at 3–0 down for his debut. Some man management. That’s UEFA Pro Licence science for you. I'm starting to think you've never seen youngsters integrated into new teams before. Giving them a 10 minute workout in a game with no pressure is pretty standard. Otherwise you end up with fans posting on websites calling them dug shite because they hadn't got up to speed instantly with their new team mates the first 60 minutes they played. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 4 hours ago, weeyin said: I'm starting to think you've never seen youngsters integrated into new teams before. Giving them a 10 minute workout in a game with no pressure is pretty standard. Otherwise you end up with fans posting on websites calling them dug shite because they hadn't got up to speed instantly with their new team mates the first 60 minutes they played. I understand the idea of easing youngsters in but let’s not pretend this is the same situation. Miller has already racked up plenty of first team games for his age. A token 10 minutes at 3–0 down does nothing for his development and only wastes the opportunity to actually test him properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 Lewis Ferguson barely got a start in his first 3 or 4 months at Bologna to let him settle in before he found himself as a mainstay and captain of the team. Chucking Miller in the deep end when he hasn't played any football since we played Carlisle almost 3 months ago ( 1 minute for Scotland aside) does nothing to help his development either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 I don’t get why fans either refuse to throw a player in at the deep end or only wish to give them a token 10 minutes in a meaningless game. Football fans are fickle. There is a middle ground, and new players should get meaningful game time to settle in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 I don’t give a feck if LM’s new manager and club throw him in the deep end or easing him in gently cause he’s now an ex player and I believe that he’ll take whatever happens in his stride and that in the next few years he’ll be playing in a top European league with a top team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 From The Scotsman: Quote Miller, however, ensured he made an impression in his 13 minutes on the park (nine minutes plus added time) with two attempts on goal. His 88th minute header from a Thomas Kristensen cross was saved by Milan goalkeeper Pietro Terracciano while the Scot also sent a right-footed shot over the bar from outside the box in the fourth minute of added time. Miller will now hope for another opportunity when Udinese host Palermo in the second round of the Coppa Italia on Tuesday night. You can see the latter effort at 6:45 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 On 9/21/2025 at 9:35 AM, wellfan said: I don’t get why fans either refuse to throw a player in at the deep end or only wish to give them a token 10 minutes in a meaningless game. Football fans are fickle. There is a middle ground, and new players should get meaningful game time to settle in. I don't think that fans get to make those decisions. Without knowing anything about Udinese or their manager, I'll assume that they have their own way of playing and that they have a specific role in mind for Miller, which may be different to what he is used to, so he'll need time to learn that. He'll also need to learn how to communicate effectively, so hopefully he's getting paid enough to afford a private Italian tutor for a couple of hours a day. He was also injured and needs to get his match fitness back, so there are a variety of factors that may be limiting his game-time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 12 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: I don't think that fans get to make those decisions. You don’t think? I’m certain they don’t. All they get to do is offer opinions. The rest of your view makes sense, but I still stand by my view on managerial bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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