MJC Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: I don't know what he's like post injury but he was great against us for hearts before that . He certainly was, he kept the scoreline respectable for Hearts at Fir Park a couple of years back when we beat them 2-0 and saved them from a gubbing against Rangers in the Scottish Cup Final a couple of seasons back. If he can stay fit Craig Gordon could play for another couple of years, he’s still a top class shot stopper with ridiculous reflexes, his problem is as has always been, he’s murder with the ball at his feet and trying to play the ball out from the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 21 hours ago, grizzlyg said: It would make sense but that shouldn't be a reason to suddenly decide you want to play for Scotland. Yeah, it shouldn't be, but it is. He knows he's not getting an England call-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Lennon Miller is playing for u19s right now against Italy. It's on the SFA YouTube channel. Kicked off at 2pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 41 minutes ago, steelboy said: Lennon Miller is playing for u19s right now against Italy. It's on the SFA YouTube channel. Kicked off at 2pm. Looking at the Italian ground, I think we should install one of those water slides beside Fir Park - could be a new source of revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 53 minutes ago, weeyin said: Looking at the Italian ground, I think we should install one of those water slides beside Fir Park - could be a new source of revenue. That could be the start of a slippery slope down the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Miller going off injured. Holding his hammy. Get him home. Billy Stark is an utter joke as a coach. Before Miller went off the Italians had made five changes and we had only changed the two strikers in 70 and 82 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, steelboy said: Get him home. Billy Stark is an utter joke as a coach. Disliked him as a player, dislike him as a coach. The Scotland setup has employed some pretty poor people over the years to develop our talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 14 minutes ago, weeyin said: Disliked him as a player, dislike him as a coach. The Scotland setup has employed some pretty poor people over the years to develop our talent. It may just be me, but I often find that most of the talent tends to be players who bypass the U19/21 squads and go straight into the A squad. Whereas most players who feature consistently for the U19/21s never seem to develop further or make it into the A squad. I'm not sure how good a job Stark and Gemmill are doing or if they even bother to set their players up to develop into Clarke's system. Probably not. These squads seem like little fiefdoms rather than a proper conveyor belt for the A squad. Perhaps I am wrong, and it's just that we're so devoid of swathes of noticeable talent at the youth level these days, or it's going unnoticed or is being mismanaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 19 minutes ago, wellfan said: It may just be me, but I often find that most of the talent tends to be players who bypass the U19/21 squads and go straight into the A squad. Whereas most players who feature consistently for the U19/21s never seem to develop further or make it into the A squad. I don't think any players have actually done that. McTominay was too old for the u21s by the time he declared for Scotland. Hickey refused to play for the 19s and 21s for a while before he got a senior call up. It's good level for players to develop at and there definitely would have been scouts watching Miller and Watson today. It's jobs for the boys at the SFA with Gemmill and Stark presumably because it's important to them that the Youth coaches came through their own coaching pathway. Making sure the best young Scottish players get up to date modern coaching doesn't seem to be a priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Stark is one of the old school hangers on in scottish football that should have been ditched years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 39 minutes ago, steelboy said: It's jobs for the boys at the SFA with Gemmill and Stark presumably because it's important to them that the Youth coaches came through their own coaching pathway. Making sure the best young Scottish players get up to date modern coaching doesn't seem to be a priority. The backslapping circle-jerk of a lads club we all know too well, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackscat Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 I am hearing that Lennon's injury is serious and he may be out for the rest of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Get international football in the fucking bin! It’s bad enough we can’t seem to go a few weeks without key players picking up injuries when they’re with us but when it’s playing a meaningless friendly for the National team then it just rubs salt in the wound. I hope Holland pump Scotland tomorrow night as a GIRUY to the SFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 14 hours ago, Clackscat said: I am hearing that Lennon's injury is serious and he may be out for the rest of the season. Of course it’ll be a season ended. Our players just can’t pick up wee niggles that keep them out for one or two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, MJC said: Get international football in the fucking bin! It’s bad enough we can’t seem to go a few weeks without key players picking up injuries when they’re with us but when it’s playing a meaningless friendly for the National team then it just rubs salt in the wound. I hope Holland pump Scotland tomorrow night as a GIRUY to the SFA. It wasn't a friendly and I doubt it was meaningless to Lennon Miller. If the players don't want to play international football, they can simply choose not to go, but I suspect it means more to them than it does to you. And what possible difference is Scotland getting pumped going to make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Being able to point to players who have gained international recognition after they signed for us is a great selling point when we are trying to recruit - especially when we can't compete on wages. Younger players being regular internationals adds to their value when we sell them. So whether or not you enjoy watching the national team, it's difficult to argue against the benefits it brings our club. From an injury perspective, we hurt more players in our own training than we lose to injuries playing with Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 37 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: It wasn't a friendly and I doubt it was meaningless to Lennon Miller. If the players don't want to play international football, they can simply choose not to go, but I suspect it means more to them than it does to you. And what possible difference is Scotland getting pumped going to make? You’re right it wasn’t a friendly, so I stand corrected on that one. But for me International football is pointless and it is especially pointless not to mention completely disruptive when it forces the real football to stop for an entire week or so during the season. Why can’t they just play these games in May/June in years where there is no World Cup or Euros? And Scotland getting pumped by Holland isn’t going to make many difference to anything, but I will still have a chuckle about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 16 minutes ago, MJC said: You’re right it wasn’t a friendly, so I stand corrected on that one. But for me International football is pointless and it is especially pointless not to mention completely disruptive when it forces the real football to stop for an entire week or so during the season. Why can’t they just play these games in May/June in years where there is no World Cup or Euros? And Scotland getting pumped by Holland isn’t going to make many difference to anything, but I will still have a chuckle about it. Some of my best (and worst) football memories came from international football, but I get that isn't the case for everyone. I'm sure you know why they can't play an entire set of qualifiers over a 2 month period at the end of the season every second year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoBair14 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Congratulations Bevis Mugabi on becoming Uganda new Captain https://x.com/ugandacranes/status/1770840942074794209?s=46&t=Yi0H3LakxlXxc5QEsuI9Ug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 8 hours ago, MJC said: Get international football in the fucking bin! It’s bad enough we can’t seem to go a few weeks without key players picking up injuries when they’re with us but when it’s playing a meaningless friendly for the National team then it just rubs salt in the wound. I hope Holland pump Scotland tomorrow night as a GIRUY to the SFA. I know not everyone on here is a Scotland fan, but cant you even hear yourself? I try not to bite with some of the stuff you post, but this is reactionary nonsense. Given the amount of injuries we have suffered with our players in training this kind of thing could easily have happened had international football not even be a thing. But seeing as it is and Im Scottish, I love to see our players being picked for Scotland (and any of the other countries our players play for). It shows they and we are doing well. Enjoy your summer watching cricket or whatever other meaningless shit you fill your time with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said: Enjoy your summer watching cricket or whatever other meaningless shit you fill your time with. Learning the words to new Hearts songs probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 21 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said: Learning the words to new Hearts songs probably Nah, he'll be too busy cheering on Craig Gordon at the Euros. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, TheoBair14 said: Congratulations Bevis Mugabi on becoming Uganda new Captain https://x.com/ugandacranes/status/1770840942074794209?s=46&t=Yi0H3LakxlXxc5QEsuI9Ug This is incredible. I'm delighted for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 9 hours ago, MJC said: And Scotland getting pumped by Holland isn’t going to make many difference to anything, but I will still have a chuckle about it. Who hurt you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 13 hours ago, TheoBair14 said: Congratulations Bevis Mugabi on becoming Uganda new Captain https://x.com/ugandacranes/status/1770840942074794209?s=46&t=Yi0H3LakxlXxc5QEsuI9Ug Good on ye Bevis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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