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2024/25 Ins & Outs Discussion


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25 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Agreed Allan. Like us, perhaps Hearts are finding the English market, in which they fish, too expensive money wise, and are having to scale back their ambitions. If they sign more Premiership players, that will confirm this theory. 

Rumours that Phillips from St Johnstone next to sign up with them.

Hoovering up all the SPL talent by the looks of it.

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2 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

I don't think he will be a bit player, Hearts are signing a proven goal scorer in the premiership a midfielder with a goal tally most strikers would love over a few seasons. For me he'll be an integral part of their team.

I think he will be. At utd he scored 8 in 82. He's a confidence player and season before last he wasn't as prolific either. Much more competition at Hearts.

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4 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

I don't think he will be a bit player, Hearts are signing a proven goal scorer in the premiership

That was also true when they signed John Sutton, so you just never know - all you can do is take an educated guess.

I have no problem with players signing pre-contracts (although I think they are a weird an unnecessary mechanism in a system that is already weird), but I think it's always best for all parties if they aren't made public.

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1 hour ago, robsterwood said:

I think he will be. At utd he scored 8 in 82. He's a confidence player and season before last he wasn't as prolific either. Much more competition at Hearts.

Spittal left Dundee United 7 years ago aged 21.

He is now 28 and in his prime footballing years.

Comparing the 2 is pointless and unfair on the player.

Given the that 7 years have elapsed and he has had 3 clubs since then its fair to say he is now much more experienced.

Hearts are clearly getting a much better player than the one United had.

As for spending the money on KVV, I think we have done that one to death. We need to maximise the value for money we can get. KVV no longer represents that due to what he now earns. Too much risk attached for the cost.

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6 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Spittal left Dundee United 7 years ago aged 21.

He is now 28 and in his prime footballing years.

Comparing the 2 is pointless and unfair on the player.

Given the that 7 years have elapsed and he has had 3 clubs since then its fair to say he is now much more experienced.

Hearts are clearly getting a much better player than the one United had.

As for spending the money on KVV, I think we have done that one to death. We need to maximise the value for money we can get. KVV no longer represents that due to what he now earns. Too much risk attached for the cost.

Well said mate.

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3 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

I believe Halliday has already been signed for next season. He joined on loan for a one year deal after that. 

He's still a Hearts player so we can pull the deal. You can't have a guy like that in the team, he's in the Butcher/Obika zone. 

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3 minutes ago, steelboy said:

He's still a Hearts player so we can pull the deal. You can't have a guy like that in the team, he's in the Butcher/Obika zone. 

Of course we can. The deal was that he was on loan here until the end of the season with the option of us signing him permanently from the summer onwards. We don’t have to take that option up and if he’s not fit enough then you’d certainly like to hope that we wouldn’t. I suspect he will retire from playing once this season is over anyway so it won’t be an issue.

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I hope we don't sign halliday for next season and the same goes for retaining the likes of butcher and obika,no harm to them but these guys are in there 30s and there never going to get upto speed after an injury like they would have done a few years ago.with the budget the manager will be working with next season we can't afford any passengers and players that struggle to keep themselves fight from one week to the next.

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Just now, wellgirl said:

Ah right. So Motherwell shouldn't sign players in their 30s. Should we not have signed Tommy Coyne and Davie Cooper? 

Did I say we shouldn't sign players in there 30s,the point was us not wasting our meagre resources on players we know struggle for fitness.nice comparison though,cooper and halliday 😂.

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10 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Nonsense 

I can only assume all the happy clapping has affected your judgment because he (and many others) was rotten today and hasn't shown anything positive since joining to suggest he isn't anything other than a pointless signing so far. 

 

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2 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

You seriously can't deal with a difference of opinion without getting personal. No matter how many times people point it out to you. I've been watching Motherwell since 1987 and what you can do is stick your snide opinions up your backside. It's your way or the highway and I've had enough of it. Hth

Your lack of self-awareness is staggering. 

I hope you have a good night antagonising people. 

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2 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

As is yours. You spend your time on here dictating to people what they should think about Motherwell. And I wont spend my night antagonising people. Can't have a difference of opinion eh? You spend your entire time on here closing people down. Hth. 

Thank you for confirming my previous response. 

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17 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Don't think you are getting the point. The point was being made that we shouldnt sign players over 30. And the point I made was then why did we sign Cooper and Coyne.  You show me where I was comparing them. 

Again where did I say we shouldn't sign players in there 30s?

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5 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

You just want people to agree with you. That's fine. No point in debate then is there. You got personal. Now off you go

If you can't see that what you accuse people of here is exactly what you practice then I don't know what to say anymore.

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9 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

You made a post mentioning players in their 30s. Like Halliday 

The point was moving players on that have struggled for fitness,halliday,butcher and obika, there best days are behind them.

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7 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

You go through my previous posts and see where I've ever insulted you personally . I think you'll be waiting a long time. A very long time. But I'll tell you something. No wonder people don't post on here any more. You get closed down if you don't hate Kettlewell. And that is the truth 

Take your sanctimony and victim complex elsewhere. 

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