2024/25 Ins & Outs Discussion

[Yabba's Turd]

4 hours ago, Yodo said:

Where is his replacement then 

You're not quite grasping this, are you?

[Yodo]

11 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said:

You're not quite grasping this, are you?

Bit like yersel 

[Cameron_Mcd]

Signing Callachan was always a weird one to me, he was just off of the back of a long term injury and (according to County fans on P&B) was rotten when he was fit.*

Halliday seemed like a clever signing when we picked him up in January and was one I was pretty pleased with at the time, he was (IMO) really underwhelming in his loan spell to the point I was hoping that we cancelled his PCA. TBF to Kettlewell and the club it's impossible for us to know the contract situation there and if we could actually do that. 

Nicholson in my eyes is just a case of bad luck, as far as I can remember everyone bar Steelboy was pleased with the signing when we got him back permanently.

I think we've signed our fair share of perma-crocks (Jon Obika, Pape Souare etc...) but I do also think that in some cases (like the aforementioned Callum Slattery) we have just been really unlucky a lot of the time.

 

*Callachan's name being spelt Callachan instead of Callaghan is very, very annoying.

[Mootherwell86]

Career mercenary, chicken coop enthusiast and one time Fir Park hero is incoming apparently. 

😬

[Yabba's Turd]

49 minutes ago, Yodo said:

Bit like yersel 

No I'm fully aware of how replacing a player works, and that stating my opinion as fact isn't a good idea.

[Stevie73]

Quite a random montage for the club to post about Watt, surely not.

[Richie]

Watt has signed.

Will be announced later today I imagine.

[Spiderpig]

15 minutes ago, Richie said:

Watt has signed.

Will be announced later today I imagine.

Is this for real? where did this nightmare rumour come from surely not the return of Twatt 😱

[wellfan]

Watt easily has more quality than the majority of our current squad combined. Although he probably won’t be the same player we had last time, let’s not forget that he’s the player who single-handedly dragged us across the finish line on multiple occasions during his time with us. 

[steelboy]

He's a rat but if he keeps us up then we'll have to swallow our pride. It shows how bad a job Kettlewell has done. 

[pretzel]

22 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Is this for real? where did this nightmare rumour come from surely not the return of Twatt 😱

I think there was talk for the past week of him returning, sounds like a loan deal initially with United picking up a hefty amount of the tab.

[Spiderpig]

22 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Watt easily has more quality than the majority of our current squad combined. Although he probably won’t be the same player we had last time, let’s not forget that he’s the player who single-handedly dragged us across the finish line on multiple occasions during his time with us. 

I agree on his ability and as you say if he scores goals and we win games then I probably won't care, but the fact he's an arsehole of a man who did not conduct himself well when he left us still rankles me and I suspect a few others as well.

[Mccus28]

The way Watt left was a disgrace (on his part)

However, he is better than what we have and did single handidly drag our team along for large parts of the season.

It does show a lack of self awareness on his part and im not sure how our fans will react.

I will give him support for no more reason than he is a Motherwell player

[Dossertillidie2]

The fact watt is arguably better than what we have gives me the absolute fear for this season 

[Claretamberribbon]

I think Watt is a good signing clearly he left due to Alexander that happens in football, he was brilliant at times for us so hopefully he hits the ground running.

I'm happy to give him a chance 

 

[grizzlyg]

It just gets more bizarre,  he didn't exactly do much at St Mirren last season.  Really getting fed up with this let's sign former players. Especially one who left us in the way he did.  However nae pressure Tony but if you don't hit the ground running then it will be very uncomfortable. 

And at same time he will be wearing the claret and amber so will get my support

[grizzlyg]

Also it's a creative midfielder we need, no point signing strikers when we have no one to create the chances 

[El Grew]

15 hours ago, MelvinBragg said:

Pretty much every single player we sign is a gamble on one level or another. They're either unproven at our level, older guys whose best days are behind them and we're hoping to squeeze a couple of seasons out of them or guys who have had injuries that we might not have been able to sign if they didn't have a couple of dents in them. And most clubs our size are doing the same thing (St Mirren signed Dunne and O'Hara from ourselves with their injury records, Dundee United went for Moult). Are other clubs simply being luckier or are their flaws in our training methods or physio/medical approach? That's a separate question.. 

Even our signings that have worked out in the past have been gambles

Moult, Kiprè and Marvin Johnson? All unproven at our level.

Aldred? Persona non grata at a shite Bury team. 

Chris Porter, we were told that we would never keep him fit.

Tony Watt? Lazy, wouldn't apply himself.

Basically there's no guarantees when we sign any player one way or another..

The only signing I perhaps have an issue with is Callachan. While Halliday (played loads of European games, experienced player to help an inexperienced midfield) and Nicholson (decent pedigree) have records that you could argue justify a gamble on them, I'm not sure you could say the same about Callachan's history...

Older posters will doubtless recall signings made in the Bobby Howitt like Jackie McInally (Kilmarnock) Jimmy Wilson (Aberdeen) Billy Campbell (Dundee), Billy Ritchie (Rangers), John Fallon (Celtic). All very much in the “older guys whose best days are behind them” category. So nothing has changed.

[pretzel]

That's it official.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/08/13/tony-watt-returns-on-loan/

Confirmed

[wellup83]

2 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Also it's a creative midfielder we need, no point signing strikers when we have no one to create the chances 

We have created chances though albeit few against rangers. Ultimately it's been taking them that's been the problem so far. We're only 2 games in and I feel positive that we have decent firepower in the squad. Once Robinson gets off the mark I think we'll see a player there.

[El Grew]

2 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Also it's a creative midfielder we need, no point signing strikers when we have no one to create the chances 

Spot on Grizzly and grasping this fact seems to be beyond our manager.

[twistandshout1983]

Not the signing some would have hoped for but if Tony Watt scores goals he will do for me 

On recent evidence it is an area we will struggle this year

[bobbybingo]

17 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Also it's a creative midfielder we need, no point signing strikers when we have no one to create the chances 

I always thought we missed Watt's intelligence (I know) up front more than his goals, most of which came in the purple patch that convinced Utd to shell out. He's never a lone striker, but hopefully he can help one of the other guys kick on - as long as that's Kettlewell's plan. 

[grizzlyg]

Knowing Kettlewell and his signing record over 3 transfer windows what's the betting the creative midfielder he goes for is Polworth!! Another player who endeared himself to the fans with his wonderful attitude! (Yep my tongue firmly in cheek)