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Motherwell v Celtic 25/02/2024


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25 minutes ago, dennyc said:

It should be noted that the ban Celtic imposed on the GB was only lifted after their embarrassing but financially rewarding European appearances ended for the season. The only reason they were banned in the first place was to placate Uefa who were very close to closing areas of Celtic Park, with the next stage being a complete European ban. Either of those sanctions would have cost them millions. Our authorities on the other hand will always turn a blind eye.

All the shite Celtic spread around regards incidents at Fir Park, Easter Road etc forcing them to act for the good of football was just a smokescreen. Remember Rodgers saw fit to defend the youngster at Livi (?) who the stewards collared when he ran onto the park, the week before a swarm of them did much worse at Fir Park, even getting in the faces of our players. Toxic.

We really should just ban them from Fir Park. Financial hit or not.  I know that's not going to happen given our finances but it would at least highlight the issue and maybe force the media to have a serious debate.

 

Celtic control the media , and the sfa and SPFL. And have done for years .

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1 minute ago, twistandshout1983 said:

About time the Green Brigade were banned from all the grounds , Celtic of course let them back in and nothing has changed 

Must have been at the very least the 3rd time this has happened in a home game with Celtic , probably more 

 

Deffo more, it was in December 2013 when they had done the worst damage and it lay like that for months. I don't think a fixture goes by against them now where they don't cause some sort of costly damage.   

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14 minutes ago, pretzel said:

Deffo more, it was in December 2013 when they had done the worst damage and it lay like that for months. I don't think a fixture goes by against them now where they don't cause some sort of costly damage.   

And less than two years after that we had the ‘Well Bois’ doing a joint protest with them at Fir Park over heavy handed policing. Talk about ‘useful idiots’.

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50 minutes ago, MJC said:

Paton out for a ‘significant period of time’ with a serious ankle injury. 
 

Get this season in the fucking bin. :wallbash:

 

What the fuck are we doing to the players during training and feeding them before games?! The amount of injuries we have experienced is ridiculous.

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2 hours ago, MJC said:

Paton out for a ‘significant period of time’ with a serious ankle injury. 
 

Get this season in the fucking bin. :wallbash:

 

I did post yesterday that he was on crutches so this simply confirms what we already know. Not good news. What are we doing in training? He was missed yesterday. 

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6 hours ago, wellfan said:

What the fuck are we doing to the players during training and feeding them before games?! The amount of injuries we have experienced is ridiculous.

I've said this elsewhere. Someone posted on Facebook that this was covered at the AGM and it does seem to be bad luck. Apparently Slattery caught his studs in the grass. And I'm speaking as someone who isn't a footballer obviously but I had a grade two calf tear five years ago at a bootcamp. I was asked to do a certain exercise. We all were. I tore my calf. No one else did. I ended up on crutches for three months 

Injuries can be random. It doesn't always have to be about nutrition or training methods. 

 

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5 hours ago, wellgirl said:

Injuries can be random. It doesn't always have to be about nutrition or training methods. 

I don't disagree with the random aspect. However, given the amount we've had, and the negative financial and performance implications of these, it may be worth bringing in a specialist to assess things. 

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20 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Very harsh.   Isn't a world beater but certainly not the worst player we have 

Regardless of how good or bad anyone thinks Paton is. Not having him available even to freshen up the team say, around the 90 minute mark, hurts us and seriously reduces our options in midfield. 

Restricts us tactically too.

 

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On 2/27/2024 at 7:07 AM, wellfan said:

I don't disagree with the random aspect. However, given the amount we've had, and the negative financial and performance implications of these, it may be worth bringing in a specialist to assess things. 

We’re not alone  re injuries The article on bbc re the amount of players impacted with modern game .

I believe our issue is having too small a squad and playing too many games , players being on pitch when not 100%

mix to that bad luck , signing players with history all adds to the picture 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68423241

 

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2 hours ago, wellsince75 said:

We’re not alone  re injuries The article on bbc re the amount of players impacted with modern game .

I believe our issue is having too small a squad and playing too many games , players being on pitch when not 100%

mix to that bad luck , signing players with history all adds to the picture 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68423241

 

Yep. Add the plastic pitches.

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9 hours ago, wellfan said:

Yep. Add the plastic pitches.

There is no place for plastic pitches in top flight football, especially the cheap and nasty kind that Livingston and Kilmarnock have both of which are a disgrace. Action is needed by the SFA / SPFL there are criteria in place for the standard of stadiums etc for premiership teams so why can't they cover the playing surface as well.

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2 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

There is no place for plastic pitches in top flight football, especially the cheap and nasty kind that Livingston and Kilmarnock have both of which are a disgrace. Action is needed by the SFA / SPFL there are criteria in place for the standard of stadiums etc for premiership teams so why can't they cover the playing surface as well.

We'll have to endure one more season of Killie's plastic carpet, as they plan to have it replaced with grass by the start of the 2025/26 season, and Livi will take their shite to the Championship for the 2024/25 season, where it should remain forever more. 

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1 hour ago, wellfan said:

We'll have to endure one more season of Killie's plastic carpet, as they plan to have it replaced with grass by the start of the 2025/26 season, and Livi will take their shite to the Championship for the 2024/25 season, where it should remain forever more. 

With Livi going, I assume that means a vote can be forced at 11-1 or even 12-0 in favour to rule them out of the Premiership forevermore if Killie are getting rid anyway?

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1 hour ago, Spiderpig said:

There is no place for plastic pitches in top flight football, especially the cheap and nasty kind that Livingston and Kilmarnock have both of which are a disgrace. Action is needed by the SFA / SPFL there are criteria in place for the standard of stadiums etc for premiership teams so why can't they cover the playing surface as well.

Totally agree. Their pitches are terrible.   I have played on Airdrie and Clyde's old pitch at Broadwood and both surfaces miles better than Killie and especially Livi.  Both obviously went for cheap option.

I understand why lower league teams need it as it's a way of generating income but shouldn't be in place in top division.

Mind you this is same league that insisted on 10,000 seater stadia back in the day hence all the clubs spending a fortune upgrading stadia when never going to fill it to capacity 

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Raith Rovers are in with a decent shout of automatic promotion and they have an artficial playing surface. Airdrie are pushing for a play off spot as well. So the opportunity to switch to an all grass Premiership might be further away than we hope. At worst we could have two new non grass pitches to cope with next season. I'll add Kelty Hearts surface to those that are streets ahead of Livi. Killie and Accies.

If we cannot go to all playing on grass, then there should be standards that must be enforced regards the quality of artificial playing surfaces. And Livi and Killie are well below that standard. But we all know the Authorities will not get involved.

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