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2 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said:

📽️ The greatest Motherwell player?

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Impossible to say who the greatest of all time is, for so many reasons, not least the number of guys those of us on here never got to see play. Willie Pettigrew was probably my first favourite, but my memories of guys I've seen since are much more vivid. Tommy Coyne would take some beating for me.

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All depends what age you are, what player you pick, absolutely no point in comparing a modern player with someone from say the 50's or 60's as the game they played is vastly different from what we see today on so many levels.

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1 hour ago, Spiderpig said:

All depends what age you are, what player you pick, absolutely no point in comparing a modern player with someone from say the 50's or 60's as the game they played is vastly different from what we see today on so many levels.

Yep agree totally, depends on era. When I started going in 1977 as a 5 Yr old Wullie P was my idol

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Also depends on what criteria you look at for GOAT.

Is it most talented player, or most entertaining, or goals scored, or longest serving, or most games played, or most capped, or greatest captain, or most impactful, or being part of a trophy winning side, or home grown, or going on to achieve great things after moving on?  Impossible task although fun remembering those you saw in the flesh and reading about those you didn't. Throws up a lot of great memories for us old folk.

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Davie Cooper is the most talented player Ive seen in my lifetime at Fir Park, but he is a long way from being GOAT for the reasons Denny C has given above.

My first Motherwell had Bobby Graham and Pettigrew, but they were very short lived.

Tommy Coyne and Arnott were some double act and Faddy did some outrageous things in claret & amber.

But the GOAT of my lifetime is obviously Joe Wark. One club man, record appearances until Hammy came along and a level of performance and consistency unrivalled by anyone.

Of course that doesnt make him our GOAT. Just the best Ive seen. 

My old man used to rave about the Ancell Babes with Hunter, Quinn, St John, Reid and Weir.

Bobby Ferrier, George Stevenston, Charlie Aitken and Andy Paton all have to be in the conversation.

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47 minutes ago, dennyc said:

Also depends on what criteria you look at for GOAT.

Is it most talented player, or most entertaining, or goals scored, or longest serving, or most games played, or most capped, or greatest captain, or most impactful, or being part of a trophy winning side, or home grown, or going on to achieve great things after moving on?  Impossible task although fun remembering those you saw in the flesh and reading about those you didn't. Throws up a lot of great memories for us old folk.

Absolutely. To me it's a mixture of talent, achievement and service to the club.

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My first game was in 1966 when my cousin kidnapped me and took me to Fir Park for a game against St Johnstone. Was hooked from that day onwards. Seen lots of fantastic players....and some not so fantastic... in my time but it's strange how it's often players that few mention that stick in the memory. Brian Heron as an example. Some shot on him and I recall a game against Killie where I swear the goal posts were actually rocking after his shot smashed against the bar. At least it seemed that way to an awe struck teenager.

I do regret that I never saw some of the older players such as Stevenson, Ferrier, McFadyen and a good few others that moved on to greater success elsewhere. Players like Hughie Ferguson whose life story is so tragic despite his footballing achievements. Everyone part of Motherwell folklore and legends, if not the GOAT.

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3 hours ago, weeyin said:

Andy Ritchie probably had the most pure footballing talent I have seen. Which just goes to show that you need more than that to be the greatest. 

I'd actually have given that accolade to Vic Davidson. Superb footbal player with control, vision, skill. A great passer and a goalscorer as well. Imagine having a team now with the qualities of Pettigrew, Graham, Marinello and Davidson all in the same side !!!

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For those of you that are able to remember, how does Willie Kilmarnock fare when discussing club legends? I only ask as he was our first captain to lift the Scottish Cup and the archive footage suggests that he played a prominent role in keeping Dundee out that day.

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30 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

For those of you that are able to remember, how does Willie Kilmarnock fare when discussing club legends? I only ask as he was our first captain to lift the Scottish Cup and the archive footage suggests that he played a prominent role in keeping Dundee out that day.

He's got to be right up there in terms of service and achievements. 4 finals, 2 winners medals within 5 years. You'd also be looking at guys like Andy Paton, Baldy Shaw and Willie Redpath from that side.

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