2024/25 pre-season thread

[weeyin]

35 minutes ago, santheman said:

There's one thing certain and that's politics and religion should be nowhere near a football forum.

All it causes is arguments.

Or nowhere near football in general - but sadly a large part of our game still thrives on the religious divisions.

[Kmcalpin]

A good pre season workout against a fired up physical side. Livi had a point to prove and took the game very seriously. 

A few points to take from today's game. If we're going to play a single striker up front, then we need an out and out replacement for Bair. Neither of the 2 strikers on display today, good though they may turn out to be, seem to have the right qualities for that role.  Paton played well and with energy but he's no replacement for Spittal. If Nicholson is injured, as he was today, then what? No creative link between midfield and striker today. Whilst the Livi engine room was fired up our lads were just grateful for the opportunity to get gametime. 

No problem at all in leaving the ground and car park after full time. Saw a few bandsmen in uniforms but that was it. 

[Kmcalpin]

6 players currently injured I hear. We seemed quite content just to run the second half down to allow Livi to test out our defence. Or, maybe Livi were just fired up. Who knows?

[stv]

2 hours ago, santheman said:

There's one thing certain and that's politics and religion should be nowhere near a football forum.

All it causes is arguments.

No it doesn’t 

[santheman]

49 minutes ago, stv said:

No it doesn’t 

Yes it does🤣

[grizzlyg]

1 hour ago, stv said:

No it doesn’t 

This isn't an argument.....This is contradiction......( one for monty python fans)

[GrahamH]

7 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

Thanks for the sanctimonious post that has become your trademark but go and tell that to the numerous hangers on ive seen today including very young children holding and waving ulster flags while their alleged parents obviously the worse for drink sing " no surrender "

The description of them in a previous post was accurate. The bigotry between the blue and green uglies is Scotlands shame and has no place in modern society.

I always find it funny when the “fellow supporters” line is stated. As if you need to accept anything anybody does if they support the same team as you 😂 Every club in Scotland will have the dregs of society who are involved in bigoted marches so “fellow supporters” should be entitled to call them out for what they are.

[joewarkfanclub]

When we were all kids we were told we should be seen and not heard.

We were told that you shouldnt do politics and religion in public.

These tropes were peddled by folk who wanted to ensure that good people didnt get beyond their stations and try and make life a little bit better for everyone.

Thankfully, a lot of good people ignored that shite and life has got better for women, catholics, jewish folk, muslims, gay people, folks of ethnic origins etc etc.

You dont need to not talk about these things at the football. You just need to be "sound" and not be an arsehole.

 

[SteelmaninOZ]

The gaffer said 

 

[wellfan]

A few observations from yesterday:

• Much like last season, we have zero width and no plan B.
• Miller is a different class and will be sold soon. 
• Without Bair, we don't seem to have anyone capable of playing the solo striker role.
• Someone please tell Kettlewell that Paton isn't a Spittal replacement. 
• Gordon is a great signing and should start every game as the main CB. 
• Why do we have so many injuries? Again. 
• Bigots everywhere. 
• The League Cup games will help determine the settled 11. 

 

 

[Mad Dog]

What was the starting XI?

[steelboy]

25 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

What was the starting XI?

Ox

SOD Casey Gordon Blaney Wilson

Miller Halliday

Wells Paton

Moses

He seems to be sticking with the Steve Clarke tactics despite the players not being suited to it. 

He's probably missing Seddon, Nicholson and Robinson from the first choice XI but it's still very poor. 

[SteelmaninOZ]

Club says thanks for being at Fir Park 

 

[SteelmaninOZ]

 

[Mad Dog]

14 minutes ago, steelboy said:

Ox

SOD Casey Gordon Blaney Wilson

Miller Halliday

Wells Paton

Moses

He seems to be sticking with the Steve Clarke tactics despite the players not being suited to it. 

He's probably missing Seddon, Nicholson and Robinson from the first choice XI but it's still very poor. 

Thanks. Did Wilson and Wells look ready for the first team?

[steelboy]

2 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

Thanks. Did Wilson and Wells look ready for the first team?

Wells looked miles off it but it was a difficult one for him because of how poor our play in possession was. Despite starting 10 players who were at the club last season we had zero structure or attacking patterns. 

Wilson was decent and I'd say he showed enough to prove he can back up Seddon. 

[Well Well]

You do know it was a pre season friendly for getting fitness?.

I doubt the manager or the players really cared whether they won or not. The league cup will sort out any tactics and formations for the league season starting.

How anyone can read anything in to that game is absolutely laughable.

[Well Well]

1 hour ago, Mad Dog said:

Thanks. Did Wilson and Wells look ready for the first team?

Wilson was absolutely fine, had a few forays down the flank and some good balls into the box. He had some interplay with Paton who was talking him through the game. He wasn't really tested defensively and that will come with games. Wells was ok as well.

However you cant base that friendly on whether they are first team ready. Just need to get more exposure and minutes in games. I am sure the managers and coaches will be manage that exposure. It was nice to see them get a start though.

[Spiderpig]

10 minutes ago, Well Well said:

I doubt the manager or the players really cared whether they won or not.

I take your point but for me I want to see players and managers who take the field wanting to win every game they play in, bounce games to cup finals etc, and any that don't should not be playing for the club.

[Well Well]

Just now, Spiderpig said:

I take your point but for me I want to see players and managers who take the field wanting to win every game they play in, and any that don't should not be playing for the club.

Seriously...it was a friendly..your points are fine for the competitive stuff but they need to work on tactics and formations in a match environment as well, these games are not about winning. We don't need guys getting any more needless injuries just because you want them chasing a completely pointless win in a friendly and being unavailable for competitive games. That's just madness.

[stv]

13 hours ago, santheman said:

Yes it does🤣

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t 

[Kmcalpin]

5 hours ago, wellfan said:

A few observations from yesterday:

• Without Bair, we don't seem to have anyone capable of playing the solo striker role.
• Someone please tell Kettlewell that Paton isn't a Spittal replacement. 
• Why do we have so many injuries? Again. 
• The League Cup games will help determine the settled 11. 

Some merit in what you say. It was a friendly however, although someone at the club clearly forgot to tell Livingston that. Injuries indoubtedly affected the team selection. I thought Paton played well, up to a point but, through necessity, was played in a role for which he's unsuited. I don't know what kind of midfielder Callachan is but yesterday highlighted that we badly need a substitute for Nicholson should he ever be injured.  

Disappointing to pick up so many injuries early on. The flip side is that we had to field some youngsters and give them gametime.  I didn't think Wells made much of an impact as he was up against far bigger and more experienced / streetwise opponents. The experience will do him good though.  I have high hopes for Wilson but he had an ok game yesterday, no better. Didn't do much wrong to be fair but Livingston largely nullified him in an attacking sense after the break. 

I doubt if we'll see a settled team before the start of September, at the earliest. Bair and perhaps Miller may well move on late in the window. Then we have to source a replacement(s). In any event I doubt if we'll see Bair play much before mid August. Injuries too will delay a settled team until maybe September?

[Ya Bezzer!]

4 hours ago, steelboy said:

Wells looked miles off it but it was a difficult one for him because of how poor our play in possession was. Despite starting 10 players who were at the club last season we had zero structure or attacking patterns. 

Wilson was decent and I'd say he showed enough to prove he can back up Seddon. 

Mad Dog beat me to the question.

I've always thought Wilson was the one that was most likely to step up if given the opportunity.

[SteelmaninOZ]

Moses goal 

 

[Spiderpig]

We are currently 1-0 up in tonight's game away at Linlithgow Rose, Lennon Miller penalty.