grizzlyg Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, smiddy said: Scotty needs to start asking the real questions n not the half arsed cop out ones, youv gave him an easy ride start askin him the ones the fans want answered or u can fuck of as well scotty boy Didn't realise interviewer was called Scott, how did you know that? 🤪🤪🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, mfc said: Those stats are grim,we have the least amount of possession in the league which in turn means we create very little in attack and are constantly under pressure at the other end,that's clearly how kettlewell wants us too play but yet he's came out today and said we never spend enough time in the opposition half,total mixed message there from him,I think hes at the stage now we're he's saying any old guff in the hope that we're all daft enough too fall for it. Now now, remember......we aren't experts 🤪 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Didn't realise interviewer was called Scott, how did you know that? 🤪🤪🤪 🤣🤣🤣think i heard him mention it once or twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Just now, grizzlyg said: Now now, remember......we aren't experts 🤪 Damn I forgot we needed to be experts,I take back what I just said 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prideoflanarkshire Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 41 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Craggs rhymed off stats on radio Scotland, 12th for possession in league 38%, least shots on target and keeper has made most saves. Stats don't get you points but they tell you how we are set up......yet somehow still 5th 38% possession. I think I read somewhere that on average the ball is in play for about 60 mins per game. If that is the case we only have the ball for 23 mins per game and I’d bet half of that is in defence and the goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I personally don't think that's fair. By all accounts there were issues between SOD and Alexander but from what people who are connected with the club have suggested is that SOD wasn't treated very well by Alexander and wanted out. He wasn't playing for a chunk under Alexander - I don't think that's the same as downing tools. How can you down tools when you aren't getting a game. Also - if people did down tools under Hammell - they did it as a collective. It clearly wasn't just one player. Liam Kelly went on TV saying the players let Alexander down - after the Sligo games - how can any of that be pinned on one player? Where is the evidence that SOD had issues with Robbo and Hammell? The entire team didn't turn up at the Raith game - if players had an issue with Hammell and he lost the dressing room it wasn't just SOD to blame I agree, poor SOD seems to get blamed for everything, see that storm yesterday......SOD caused it 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, twistandshout1983 said: Very disappointing result , had a feeling the longer the game went on St Johnstone would score But 2 goals as quick as that , big improvement needed very soon or we can forget about the top 6 On current form and trajectory its not the top 6 we should be worrying about its the play off spot cos that's where we are heading unless there is a drastic change. I know the happy clappers will be in uproar at that view and will say we are only 6pts off 4th place but seriously tell me one team you have watched in the last two months worse than us. Please tell me what you see that isn't abject shite and gives you hope we wont hit 11th based on what you have watched in the last two months. That is 3rd transfer window the club have supported SK , he has the biggest 1st team squad in yonks and we are still garbage. I know there are injuries but every club has injuries. The argument that the loss of LM is killing us doesn't wash with me. He has played in most of the dross we have watched in the last two months , we are actually dragging the poor guy down to a level he shouldn't have to operate at. LM would not change the utter shite we are witnessing because the manger sets us up to play a certain way. If LM has any sense he will get out this window cos we are doing NOTHING to enhance his reputation and good luck to him. we might need his money in the Championship.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I personally don't think that's fair. By all accounts there were issues between SOD and Alexander but from what people who are connected with the club have suggested is that SOD wasn't treated very well by Alexander and wanted out. He wasn't playing for a chunk under Alexander - I don't think that's the same as downing tools. How can you down tools when you aren't getting a game. Also - if people did down tools under Hammell - they did it as a collective. It clearly wasn't just one player. Liam Kelly went on TV saying the players let Alexander down - after the Sligo games - how can any of that be pinned on one player? Where is the evidence that SOD had issues with Robbo and Hammell? The entire team didn't turn up at the Raith game - if players had an issue with Hammell and he lost the dressing room it wasn't just SOD to blame I have heard from someone trustworthy that SOD went to higher ups and complained about Hammell and let's remember Alexander dropped him because he was Guff inthink Alexander treated him how his performances in a motherwell shirt warrant him to be treated. If I took over tomorrow he'd be first out the door. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, Throughthelaces said: I have heard from someone trustworthy that SOD went to higher ups and complained about Hammell and let's remember Alexander dropped him because he was Guff inthink Alexander treated him how his performances in a motherwell shirt warrant him to be treated. If I took over tomorrow he'd be first out the door. I had heard the story that Hammel had SOD round the neck in the dressing room after the RR debacle and accused SOD of doing him in, that may or may not have been the case but SH was rightly sacked whether SOD did go above his head or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, FirParkCornerExile said: I had heard the story that Hammel had SOD round the neck in the dressing room after the RR debacle and accused SOD of doing him in, that may or may not have been the case but SH was rightly sacked whether SOD did go above his head or not. So my basic point is and I'll be very clear about this if any player strolls into motherwell I don't care how good they are if they have an attitude if I don't like the manager and that's going to affect how much effort that is put on when they have a motherwell Jersey on that player and any player like that can get out the door and asked to never return. It's why I didn't want KVV back as well when others where furious we weren't putting in for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, Throughthelaces said: So my basic point is and I'll be very clear about this if any player strolls into motherwell I don't care how good they are if they have an attitude if I don't like the manager and that's going to affect how much effort that is put on when they have a motherwell Jersey on that player and any player like that can get out the door and asked to never return. It's why I didn't want KVV back as well when others where furious we weren't putting in for him. I don't disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: I would personally be very surprised if SOD has an attitude. If you see him at events like calendar signings - he spends a ridiculous amount of time with the young fans, why would you do that if you don't care about the club- this is all just conjecture the same way the Casey stuff last week was. The calendar signing and spending time with kids is great like fair play for that but ultimately its what happens on the pitch that counts. And I think Odonnel as the more experienced players on the pitch he needs to give the younger players on field a better example and set the standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Kettlewell should be first out,then a good few more. Having 30pc possession against comfortably the worst team in the league two weeks in the trot in utterly unacceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, texanwellfan said: So what’s the plan now. Defend for 80 mins 4 hours ago, texanwellfan said: So what’s the plan now. Defend for 80 mins Yes, spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: But that still doesn't justify why the finger is getting pointed at him for having issues with three managers when the entire team weren't performing. Come on - let's not single one player out. It's unfair My concern with Steven O’Donnell as a Motherwell player stems from a pattern I've noticed during his time at the club. He often starts strongly when a new manager comes in, showing good form and commitment, but then his performances tend to drop off over time. For example, under Stevie Hammell, there were moments when O'Donnell looked like a rejuvenated player, but that form didn't last. Similarly, when Kettlewell first took over, he looked solid, but his performances have since dipped again. While I can see and respect the positives others might point out about him, this recurring pattern raises a concern for me, as he’s been a consistent presence throughout these cycles. I may be off the mark but it does strike me as a constant and a concern and the fact there's a few stories out there of him with issues with management at motherwell it does raise an eyebrow from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Just now, wellgirl said: You're entitled to your view, absolutely but there's always going to be stories - I personally know someone who has connections at the club and they said that there were issues with SOD and Alexander - but they thought Alexander was the issue - maybe the bigger point should be what goes on in the club should stay there. Same with the Casey stuff last week Ideally I'd like every player to be more like Paul McGinn a solid 7/10 week in week out I don't expect anyone to be a world beater but I do ask they try to play and win games comfortably once in a while again if we edge a game 1-0 or 2-1 or lose a game at least make the opposition work for it. We've been far too easy to play since the turn of the year and there's several issues but i do think our more experienced guys should be guiding the lads through a touch more. Wilson is off form maswanhise is our best striker and he's being isolated on wing and being pulled too far back to be effective. We're devoid of any creativity in open play. And to top it all off there's no signs of improvement at the moment. Maybe I'm just a frustrated grumpy grumps grumpusing around but man I'm not looking forward to playing celtic this week as we're liable to get hammered if we keep playing like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, ppower said: Mentioned last week that Kettlewell indicated he was very unhappy with Archie Mair's performances in goal and was quick to voice it in his post match interview. Guess what new goalkeeper in and Mair not even on the bench and he isn't injured. I didn't know about that but Balcombe gave me the fear. He doesn't like high balls and was glued to his line today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 It's all just played out now it's groundhog day week after week Kettlewell comes out with the same sort of stuff then we get the token player social media we need to do better guff I just can't be bothered with it. I just find so bizarre why folk want to give him Ross County(just skip the Celtic game to actually put in some sort of effort)game to change things around it's like they want to give him more and more chances he has had more chances than me playing Monopoly. Nobody can tell me this is enjoyable there is losing which I can handle but come on this stuff we are witnessing is just so bad it's went on for far too long now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, wellgirl said: You've every right to be disheartened. I am too and I'm a so called happy clapper If you look at my post history before last week's mare in the cup I'm typically reasoned but last week maybe got my blood pressure up more than it should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, santheman said: Need to sort out our right flank. Wait "Here's Johnny" A problem for the entire 95 minutes. Sparrow was OK going forward but he couldn't defend to save himself. Not the lads fault as he was played out of position and hung out to dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 27 minutes ago, Big Wispy Flossy said: Kettlewell should be first out,then a good few more. Having 30pc possession against comfortably the worst team in the league two weeks in the trot in utterly unacceptable By the 1967 theory when scotland beat england to be come “ the best team in the world “ then when the worst team in the league beats us, ( 2 weeks in a row ) then we basically become the worst team 😜 wont really work like that “ cause were 5th in the league “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, wellfan said: For those at the game, what formation did we start with? It looked like a 5-3-1-1 to me for the vast majority of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, smiddy said: By the 1967 theory when scotland beat england to be come “ the best team in the world “ then when the worst team in the league beats us, ( 2 weeks in a row ) then we basically become the worst team 😜 wont really work like that “ cause were 5th in the league “ In terms of league placing we are not but in terms of football we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, MJC said: Kettlewell “we don’t spend enough time in the final third” It’s a bit difficult when we can’t keep possession. It's even harder when we don't have possession and can't win it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: It's even harder when we don't have possession and can't win it back. The midfield is so weak and powder puff we will never dominate other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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