10 years ago - 28 may 2015

[twistandshout1983]

3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Or the Cammy Bell Appreciation day 

😂 One of the greatest days I have had at Fir Park , and also in Jack Daniels after this game

[MJC]

2 hours ago, twistandshout1983 said:

😂 One of the greatest days I have had at Fir Park , and also in Jack Daniels after this game

Folk were dancing on the tables in the New Century singing Twist & Shout. They actually stopped serving alcohol for an hour. 😂

[AllyMax]

2 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

Or the Cammy Bell Appreciation day 

I saw Cammy Bell on Sportscene recently (not sure the exact date but within the last couple of months) and he criticized a keeper in a match analysis for 'not dealing properly with a high ball into the box'

Was kinda expecting the other panelists to erupt in fits of laughter, but sadly it never happened !

[mio]

An absolutely fantastic day, everything about it was brilliant. The pile of h@ns leaving the main stand after Johnson’s goal (Dougie Imrie being one) and them wanting to swing at Motherwell fans when we were mocking them is a wonderful memory.

it certainly made an absolutely miserable season memorable 

[well_said]

1 hour ago, MJC said:

Folk were dancing on the tables in the New Century singing Twist & Shout. They actually stopped serving alcohol for an hour. 😂

Apparently the War Office was a wee bit quiet😂

[grizzlyg]

1 hour ago, well_said said:

Apparently the War Office was a wee bit quiet😂

I was in century for that sing song, wasn't on tables though. I can't reach that high up 🤣

[Yoshi-1991]

Being too young to remember the last cup (born 91) this was by far the best football day I've had. Keeping those scum down against the odds (jesus we were bad that season) beats anything ive seen us achive. The partying in JD's afterwards is up there with one of the best night's ive had. 4 day hangover and having to call in work sick, worth it.

[Yoshi-1991]

6 hours ago, twistandshout1983 said:

😂 One of the greatest days I have had at Fir Park , and also in Jack Daniels after this game

 

 

Im up near the bar 😆

[twistandshout1983]

2 hours ago, Yoshi-1991 said:

 

 

Im up near the bar 😆

Jack Daniels had a great few nights back in the day . The Well v Celtic game when Skippy scored those two goals was a good night

Other one despite being gubbed 5-1 by Rangers in the 2005 final in the same season there was one guy changing the lyrics to a Bryan Adams song Summer of 69 with the lyrics Summer of 91 😄

 

[Yabba's Turd]

The gasbagging was tremendous
 

 

 

[twistandshout1983]

11 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said:

The gasbagging was tremendous
 

 

 

More interesting this , compare it to the champions league final. Prefer the Well videos

Bellshill Athletic away on the 5th of July anyone? 

[weeyin]

9 hours ago, AllyMax said:

I saw Cammy Bell on Sportscene recently (not sure the exact date but within the last couple of months) and he criticized a keeper in a match analysis for 'not dealing properly with a high ball into the box'

Was kinda expecting the other panelists to erupt in fits of laughter, but sadly it never happened !

"So Cammy. On a scale from one to Marvin Johnson, just how bad was that keeper's mistake?"

[AllyMax]

1 hour ago, Yabba's Turd said:

The gasbagging was tremendous
 

 

 

Hugh Fuckin' Keevans..........I believe Rangers will win by...........a margin.....a margin that make the return at Fir Park academic or at least a comfortable 90 mins for Rangers.

😂😁🤣

[texanwellfan]

Just goes to show that on a level financial basis the old firm are no better than any other team.  Which also goes for every other league in the world. 
      The more money you have the better your chance of success. So All this “we are better than you” shite, really translates to “we have more money than you” and i do believe this is exactly what the old firm say with regards to European competitions. However, UEFA and FIFA, continue to support actions to make the rich teams richer and the “poor” teams poorer thereby actively reducing competitiveness and ability for poor teams to attain enough financial opportunity to reach a competitive level. 
  Champions league should be only champion from each country with an unseeded draw. Likewise Europa league should be like old cup winners cup and then have conference league for other teams.  

Edited 20 hours ago by texanwellfan
Apologies, I’m just polishing off wine bottle numero dos 🍷

[weeyin]

Champions League shouldn't even be a league. That was another protectonist demand from the wealthy clubs who didn't want the risk of being knocked out in an early round of a proper cup competition.

And then they complain about too many games in a season before jetting off to Thailand to play a few more.

[texanwellfan]

45 minutes ago, weeyin said:

Champions League shouldn't even be a league. That was another protectonist demand from the wealthy clubs who didn't want the risk of being knocked out in an early round of a proper cup competition.

And then they complain about too many games in a season before jetting off to Thailand to play a few more.

You are correct. I think I inferred that by saying “unseeded draw” but yes, a knockout competition ie the old European cup and as you say, also addresses complaints from players about too many games. 

[joewarkfanclub]

Unfortunately the horse has bolted, and its never coming back.....

😪😪😪

[BigManTam]

In all seriousness though, how did our team finish 11th that season? When you look at all the good talent we had...Marvin Johnson, Ainsworth was decent, young Lee Erwin coming through, experienced players like McManus, Pearson, Hammell Keith Lasley and John Sutton.

Maybe I'm viewing the past in an overly-positive light, but that team could have been top 5 in the season just passed. Has Scottish Football gone so far down hill?

Edited 13 hours ago by BigManTam

[MJC]

45 minutes ago, BigManTam said:

In all seriousness though, how did our team finish 11th that season? When you look at all the good talent we had...Marvin Johnson, Ainsworth was decent, young Lee Erwin coming through, experienced players like McManus, Pearson, Hammell Keith Lasley and John Sutton.

Maybe I'm viewing the past in an overly-positive light, but that team could have been top 5 in the season just passed. Has Scottish Football gone so far down hill?

Baraclough was a poor, poor manager, let’s not pretend otherwise. Yes he came up trumps in the playoff and he’ll always get a big pass for that but tactically he was hopeless and struggled to manage games. We saw that before and after those two games.
 

However the playoffs were one off games and he approached them in the best way, he didn’t allow us to be intimidated by Rangers simply because they were called Rangers like so many others did, none more so than Stuart McCall. Him being Rangers manager for those playoffs was a big part in us winning too as we all knew from experience that he was utterly hopeless and gutless when it came to knockout/big games. 

[weeyin]

Baraclough wasn't great but he did a lot better than McCall that season. I am a huge fan of McCall and what he achieved with us, but he was also the man who almost got us relegated. (And kudos to him for stepping away when he realised it had stopped working).

McCall left us in a precarious state by only managing 3 wins and a total of 10 points the first half of that season. Baraclough got 7 points in his first 3 games and 26 in the second half of the season.

As always, though, people often forget about the players and there's no doubt they should also share a huge part of the blame for putting us in that situation.

 

[weeyin]

3 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Unfortunately the horse has bolted, and its never coming back.....

😪😪😪

Of course. And every few years, the big clubs are edging closer towards the European Breakaway League they desperately want as new structures of the competitions are adopted.

[stv]

3 hours ago, MJC said:

Baraclough was a poor, poor manager, let’s not pretend otherwise. Yes he came up trumps in the playoff and he’ll always get a big pass for that but tactically he was hopeless and struggled to manage games. We saw that before and after those two games.
 

However the playoffs were one off games and he approached them in the best way, he didn’t allow us to be intimidated by Rangers simply because they were called Rangers like so many others did, none more so than Stuart McCall. Him being Rangers manager for those playoffs was a big part in us winning too as we all knew from experience that he was utterly hopeless and gutless when it came to knockout/big games. 

Are there any Motherwell managers in the past 40 years you actually rate .  Serious question by the way.

[MJC]

49 minutes ago, stv said:

Are there any Motherwell managers in the past 40 years you actually rate .  Serious question by the way.

I rated Stuart McCall up to a point as he oversaw an incredible league performance with us. Unfortunately his cup records seriously sullied that and some of the cup defeats/exits during his time were absolutely dreadful.

I also thought Mark McGhee did an excellent job in his first season of his first spell but ruined any good will with his appalling attitude towards the club during his second season and he did little to change that during his second stint.

Butcher took us through a very difficult period and gave us some great times but probably stayed on a year too long and the same could be said for Robinson.

Craig Brown was excellent for us imo.

The only managers whom I have genuinely thought were dreadful for us were Harri Kampman, Maurice Malpas, the aforementioned Ian Baraclough (playoff aside) and McGhee second time around.

Hope that answers your question. 

[stv]

1 hour ago, MJC said:

I rated Stuart McCall up to a point as he oversaw an incredible league performance with us. Unfortunately his cup records seriously sullied that and some of the cup defeats/exits during his time were absolutely dreadful.

I also thought Mark McGhee did an excellent job in his first season of his first spell but ruined any good will with his appalling attitude towards the club during his second season and he did little to change that during his second stint.

Butcher took us through a very difficult period and gave us some great times but probably stayed on a year too long and the same could be said for Robinson.

Craig Brown was excellent for us imo.

The only managers whom I have genuinely thought were dreadful for us were Harri Kampman, Maurice Malpas, the aforementioned Ian Baraclough (playoff aside) and McGhee second time around.

Hope that answers your question. 

Aye , cheers for the reply that's about a summary of my thoughts too .

But really you are on a hiding to nothing being the Well manager as its inevitable with financial constraints, support numbers and location as close to Glasgow,  that eventually they run out of ideas , having to sell the best players doesn't  help and results drop off .Then they leave . Terry Butcher installed great team spirit  then went off to the sun . Tommy McLean was astute but not very personable. Craig Brown was a very good manager also proving experience really does count. I liked him , he left for a better job , the way he did it was poor tho.

Not too many Well managers do leave to a better job. They just sort of fade away and have to leave. I would think it will be about a three to four year life span for a manager that does relatively well . 

[twistandshout1983]

In the last 30 years or so since Tommy McLean left we have had some good managers , and not so good ones

Butcher was one of my favourites simply because we were at rock bottom when he took that job. Remember our game at Killie when we won 4-1 and we didn't even know if we would have a team to support . Fast forward 2-3 years and we were again a force

Mark McGhee , his first season was excellent, and some of the football was a joy to watch . He handled Phil's passing the best he could have done. It was a mistake bringing the guy back in 2015 though in my opinion

Craig Brown gets definite pass marks for me and despite being disappointed at the way he left , I have long gotten over it. Brown and Knox (or Jack and Victor ) as they were known at the time did great that year

Robbo is another for me , always be greatful for the 2017-2018 season , and the 2 cup finals . Just a pity we played Celtic both times , otherwise I believe that could have been our time

Stuart McCall was consistent with us and we had a great few seasons , but there was that disappointment we should have done better in one off cup games

Edited 6 hours ago by twistandshout1983
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