dinnae-punt-it Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: Aye if this wasn't a eye opener about our defence then I don't know what is I really don't know what the answer is cause most of them will be playing alot of football for us next season. Maybe a defensive coach?Who knows. The manager was the defensive coach at Copenhagen before joining us, and was a centre half, so if he canโt sort it, nobody can. Letโs see how things go when itโs not 30 degrees on plastic. Not a great start, but still really early days. I can see Ward getting lobbed a few times if he plays that high up the pitch.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, dinnae-punt-it said: I can see Ward getting lobbed a few times if he plays that high up the pitch.ย That's how the new manager wants us to play, so it's a risk regardless of who is in goals. Less of a risk if we don't scuff a pass straight to an opposition striker, right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 17 minutes ago, MJC said: You can say what you like about Halliday, but he can certainly be trusted with a penalty. ๐ As much as i struggle to warm to Halliday, I have no doubts that heโs a good football player. I actually think heโd be excellent as an old style sweeper behind a good centre half. The issue is, we need to find a good centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 A good assessment from JBA there. Accepts that it wasnโt good enough and didnโt win but very balanced and states that we have to go and win on Tuesday.ย ย He certainly speaks well.ย 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 I hope we have a centre half and a right back and a keeper on the way.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Well if he can't see the defensive issues and sort it then we are pretty much screwed then lol. I agree JBA tells it how it is I like his no nonsense speaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Good following today and a right few roasters among them, pulled one up for trying to wreck a seat,spent about 15 mins punching and throwing a ball about which could easily smacked ofย an elderly person not bothering a fuck about game,same later when it was 2 each.then there was the masked twat with the flare. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 16 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: Well if he can't see the defensive issues and sort it then we are pretty much screwed then lol. I agree JBA tells it how it is I like his no nonsense speaking. Yep. He is very balanced...today reminded me why I don't to many away gamesย , so many people losing their shit.ย It wasn't great but I could see signs especially in first half , how he wants us to play, full backs getting well up pitch. Slatts should have won it at end but in general he's a top player so cut him some slack. On another note. It's embarrassing to see folk manhandling stewards who are trying to do their job, although not sure trying to " lift" a guy for letting off a flare is worth it. Most of them couldn't fight sleep but I wouldn't be wading in for minimum wages. Also the older guy on the way out who called the young female steward aย :"fuckin cow", have a look at yourself ...I know it's hot and drink has been taken but if that was your daughter....anyway like I say I don't go the away games much so don't usually come across the seedier stuff. Coywย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Just now, wellon said: Yep. He is very balanced...today reminded me why I don't to many away gamesย , so many people losing their shit.ย It wasn't great but I could see signs especially in first half , how he wants us to play, full backs getting well up pitch. Slatts should have won it at end but in general he's a top player so cut him some slack. On another note. It's embarrassing to see folk manhandling stewards who are trying to do their job, although not sure trying to " lift" a guy for letting off a flare is worth it. Most of them couldn't fight sleep but I wouldn't be wading in for minimum wages. Also the older guy on the way out who called the young female steward aย :"fuckin cow", have a look at yourself ...I know it's hot and drink has been taken but if that was your daughter....anyway like I say I don't go the away games much so don't usually come across the seedier stuff. Coywย Forgot to put sule looks like he could be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 First game of the season, very hot weather, a pitch that is shite at the best of times and was even worse today, all these things pointed to it being a difficult opener and it was. I thought going forward we were alright all things considered, hardly scintillating but taking the above into consideration, OK. ย Defensively we were a shambles. ย Clyde played right through the middle of us about three times in the first half. ย No one looked comfortable playing out from the back, poor passing was standard and the sweeper keeper thing which I assume came from the manager looked like it was going to cost us and it did. Can't really judge any of the new guys at this stage but I thought Fadinger looked OK in the first half. ย O'Donnell is still gash and Stamatopoulos looks like the most fragile Australian of all time and you can see why he didn't take up Aussie Rules. Clyde hit the post, we probably should have scored at least one more and Maswanhise was the stand out. O'Donnell needs replaced ASAP and I think there are some big question marks over the likes of Balmer and Koutroumbis. ย Out of that back 4 and keeper the only one I think is viable over the season is Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 1 minute ago, Ya Bezzer! said: First game of the season, very hot weather, a pitch that is shite at the best of times and was even worse today, all these things pointed to it being a difficult opener and it was. I thought going forward we were alright all things considered, hardly scintillating but taking the above into consideration, OK. ย Defensively we were a shambles. ย Clyde played right through the middle of us about three times in the first half. ย No one looked comfortable playing out from the back, poor passing was standard and the sweeper keeper thing which I assume came from the manager looked like it was going to cost us and it did. Can't really judge any of the new guys at this stage but I thought Fadinger looked OK in the first half. ย O'Donnell is still gash and Stamatopoulos looks like the most fragile Australian of all time and you can see why he didn't take up Aussie Rules. Clyde hit the post, we probably should have scored at least one more and Maswanhise was the stand out. O'Donnell needs replaced ASAP and I think there are some big question marks over the likes of Balmer and Koutroumbis. ย Out of that back 4 and keeper the only one I think is viable over the season is Gordon. The " sweeper keeper" thing is hoing to be risk and reward...obviously today we got caught out but he's one of better players and wouldn't expect that to happen often.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 8 hours ago, mio said: 2 pay at the gate turnstiles open todayโฆ. Finally some common sense. Will head down and pay at the gate at 2.50โฆ.. oh the nostalgia No need to pay at all. Just print off some random QR code show it to the guy at the barrier and he'll wave you through! ๐คฃ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 14 minutes ago, Benson said: Good following today and a right few roasters among them, pulled one up for trying to wreck a seat,spent about 15 mins punching and throwing a ball about which could easily smacked ofย an elderly person not bothering a fuck about game,same later when it was 2 each.then there was the masked twat with the flare. Characters or dicks...you pays your money you takes your choice Thought I was the only one who found the " volleyball " tedious.. I am grumpy old bugger tbf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, wellon said: The " sweeper keeper" thing is hoing to be risk and reward...obviously today we got caught out but he's one of better players and wouldn't expect that to happen often.ย I think this is one of those times where continental managers come in and assume players at a top league level can actually control, pass the ball and play out from the back. He's going to find out they can't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 2 minutes ago, wellon said: Characters or dicks...you pays your money you takes your choice Thought I was the only one who found the " volleyball " tedious.. I am grumpy old bugger tbf For ultras once they got their 'fuck the police' chant out the way early and played with their ball they hardly made any noise at all. ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 42 minutes ago, MJC said: A good assessment from JBA there. Accepts that it wasnโt good enough and didnโt win but very balanced and states that we have to go and win on Tuesday.ย ย He certainly speaks well.ย Motherwell are the absolute masters of the let down. I've rarely seen so many Motherwell fans genuinely excited going into a game. Big crowd , enthusiasm from the stands and we fail to deliver yet again. However I'll not get too wound up, it was the first game and absolutely brutal playing conditions. I swear one day we will put on a performance when the fans turn out in numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 9 minutes ago, wellon said: Characters or dicks...you pays your money you takes your choice Thought I was the only one who found the " volleyball " tedious.. I am grumpy old bugger tbf The volleyball was tedious, if you want to play games go to the swing park.ย 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted July 12 Author Report Share Posted July 12 The gaffer saidย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 6 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: For ultras once they got their 'fuck the police' chant out the way early and played with their ball they hardly made any noise at all. ย Reminds of another banner they had " acab" with a picture of ravenscrig, probably heaviest thing they've ever lifted is their school pencil...I know you'll grow up one day guys but it's all a bit clichรฉd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Glad we got the bonus point, not great viewing but enjoyed it at the same time Makes sense going straight to penalties instead of playing extra time , especially in heat like today ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 1 minute ago, wellon said: Reminds of another banner they had " acab" with a picture of ravenscrig, probably heaviest thing they've ever lifted is their school pencil...I know you'll grow up one day guys but it's all a bit clichรฉd. I know I'm banging on a bit but it was good to have it back ๐ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 46 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Motherwell are the absolute masters of the let down. I've rarely seen so many Motherwell fans genuinely excited going into a game. Big crowd , enthusiasm from the stands and we fail to deliver yet again. However I'll not get too wound up, it was the first game and absolutely brutal playing conditions. I swear one day we will put on a performance when the fans turn out in numbers. If anyone was excited about a game at NDP I can only assume this is their first season following the sport. There has not been an entertaining game in that stadium since the day they rolled out that plastic abomination, regardless of the teams involved. As for masters of the letdown, every set of fans say that, and ours forget to say it when, for example, we stuff Rangers in a play off (or cup semi),ย get 2nd place with a last gasp winner at Pittodrie or beat Dundee Utd in front of a huge crowd. We win our fair share of big games, but we're not big enough to win them all. See Dundee or St Mirren for other examples. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 2 minutes ago, weeyin said: If anyone was excited about a game at NDP I can only assume this is their first season following the sport. There has not been an entertaining game in that stadium since the day they rolled out that plastic abomination, regardless of the teams involved. I talked to quite a number of fans walking to the game and queuing outside and most of them said its the first time in ages they were genuinely excited about the opening game.ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Same shite (defensively), different season. That aside, it was good to see what some of the new guys brought to the table.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Ya Bezzer! said: ย Defensively we were a shambles. ย Clyde played right through the middle of us about three times in the first half.ย ย An interesting comment. I couldn't make the game today so not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying that they played high balls over our defence or do mean that they drove straight through our midfield on the deck? If its the latter, that suggests big problems with our defensive midfield.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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