Clyde v Motherwell 12/07/2025 🏆

[SteelmaninOZ]

The gaffer said 

 

[wellon]

6 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

For ultras once they got their 'fuck the police' chant out the way early and played with their ball they hardly made any noise at all.

 

Reminds of another banner they had " acab" with a picture of ravenscrig, probably heaviest thing they've ever lifted is their school pencil...I know you'll grow up one day guys but it's all a bit clichéd.

[twistandshout1983]

Glad we got the bonus point, not great viewing but enjoyed it at the same time

Makes sense going straight to penalties instead of playing extra time , especially in heat like today

 

 

[wellon]

1 minute ago, wellon said:

Reminds of another banner they had " acab" with a picture of ravenscrig, probably heaviest thing they've ever lifted is their school pencil...I know you'll grow up one day guys but it's all a bit clichéd.

I know I'm banging on a bit but it was good to have it back 😆 

[weeyin]

46 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Motherwell are the absolute masters of the let down. I've rarely seen so many Motherwell fans genuinely excited going into a game. Big crowd , enthusiasm from the stands and we fail to deliver yet again. However I'll not get too wound up, it was the first game and absolutely brutal playing conditions. I swear one day we will put on a performance when the fans turn out in numbers.

If anyone was excited about a game at NDP I can only assume this is their first season following the sport.

There has not been an entertaining game in that stadium since the day they rolled out that plastic abomination, regardless of the teams involved.

As for masters of the letdown, every set of fans say that, and ours forget to say it when, for example, we stuff Rangers in a play off (or cup semi),  get 2nd place with a last gasp winner at Pittodrie or beat Dundee Utd in front of a huge crowd.

We win our fair share of big games, but we're not big enough to win them all.

See Dundee or St Mirren for other examples.

[FirParkCornerExile]

2 minutes ago, weeyin said:

If anyone was excited about a game at NDP I can only assume this is their first season following the sport.

There has not been an entertaining game in that stadium since the day they rolled out that plastic abomination, regardless of the teams involved.

I talked to quite a number of fans walking to the game and queuing outside and most of them said its the first time in ages they were genuinely excited about the opening game.  

[wellfan]

Same shite (defensively), different season. That aside, it was good to see what some of the new guys brought to the table. 

[Kmcalpin]

1 hour ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

 Defensively we were a shambles.  Clyde played right through the middle of us about three times in the first half.  

An interesting comment. I couldn't make the game today so not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying that they played high balls over our defence or do mean that they drove straight through our midfield on the deck? If its the latter, that suggests big problems with our defensive midfield. 

[Throughthelaces]

I think we just didn't defend well today thought we had some really encouraging spells where we had the ball and thought at points we looked threatening. Defensively we were a shambles. I am however willing to give benefit of the doubt it's the 3rd game played under new manager and the 3rd system they've played this year. 

 

There will be growing pains but if we're as poor defensively on Tuesday on an actual pitch I'll be very concerned.

[Kmcalpin]

I wasn't at the game today today and so won't comment on specifics but the performance and result was a big let down.  Whatever way you look at it, we should be beating a middling League 2 side. The League Cup is one of only 2 trophies that we have a realistic, if outside, chance of winning and we treat it like a pre season bounce game.   I get the heat and the plastic pitch but it was exactly the same for Clyde, who couldn't even field a full bench. In terms of condition of the pitch, there should be rules in place to ensure a safe playable surface eg watering, but thats another issue. 

Our pre season was difficult for several reasons, but an extra bounce game would not have gone amiss. What happened to the 2nd game in the Netherlands which didn't take place? The players, of course are still adapting a new system. 

The starting line up was nothing short of weird and who knows the factors that lay behind that.  Fitness obviously played a part. The game did highlight deficiencies in the squad, most of which we already knew about i.e. a very fragile defence. It will clearly help if we can ship out a few underperfomers, if only on loan.    

 

[wellgirl]

4 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

I wasn't at the game today today and so won't comment on specifics but the performance and result was a big let down.  Whatever way you look at it, we should be beating a middling League 2 side. The League Cup is one of only 2 trophies that we have a realistic, if outside, chance of winning and we treat it like a pre season bounce game.   I get the heat and the plastic pitch but it was exactly the same for Clyde, who couldn't even field a full bench. In terms of condition of the pitch, there should be rules in place to ensure a safe playable surface eg watering, but thats another issue. 

Our pre season was difficult for several reasons, but an extra bounce game would not have gone amiss. What happened to the 2nd game in the Netherlands which didn't take place? The players, of course are still adapting a new system. 

The starting line up was nothing short of weird and who knows the factors that lay behind that.  Fitness obviously played a part. The game did highlight deficiencies in the squad, most of which we already knew about i.e. a very fragile defence. It will clearly help if we can ship out a few underperfomers, if only on loan.    

 

I think the line up was JBA making the best of what he has given that Miller took a knock at the Carlisle game and McGhee is apparently injured 

[Kmcalpin]

3 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

I think the line up was JBA making the best of what he has given that Miller took a knock at the Carlisle game and McGhee is apparently injured 

I get that, but why play a right sided back on the left side and leave 2 left sided backs on the bench? 

[weeyin]

1 minute ago, Kmcalpin said:

I get that, but why play a right sided back on the left side and leave 2 left sided backs on the bench? 

Early season fitness levels possibly. Or maybe just wanted to try something out.

[well_said]

48 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

I think the line up was JBA making the best of what he has given that Miller took a knock at the Carlisle game and McGhee is apparently injured 

Why did he have a right back at left back when he had two left backs on the bench .that doesn't seem to be making the best of what's available.

[wellgirl]

9 minutes ago, well_said said:

Why did he have a right back at left back when he had two left backs on the bench .that doesn't seem to be making the best of what's available.

You'd need to ask him. I have no idea. 

[wunderwell]

20 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

You'd need to ask him. I have no idea. 

I noticed your facebook comment - in response to another poster. 
The initial comment being "If it's anything other than sorry that was pish he needs to have a real think"

Surely by now we know that what a manager has to say - he can't respond like a fan. 
As a manager of players he will choose his words wisely - and we hope he takes away what we all see. 
Managers who chuck their players under a bus don't last long.
Good managers move the players who are not required out in the longer term and bring in others to take their place.
 

[wellgirl]

1 hour ago, wunderwell said:

I noticed your facebook comment - in response to another poster. 
The initial comment being "If it's anything other than sorry that was pish he needs to have a real think"

Surely by now we know that what a manager has to say - he can't responded like a fan. 
As a manager of players and people he will choose his words wisely - and we hope he takes away what we all see. 
Managers who chuck their players under a bus don't last long.
Good managers move the players who are not required out in the longer term and bring in others to take their place.
 

Im not sure why you are mentioning my Facebook comments on here tbh. It's got nothing to do with this forum. Yeah I know what the initial comment was. 

I also responded later to say that I wasn't expecting miracles - btw the person who posted that initial comment is a die hard Motherwell fan who was at the game today and was probably feeling a bit frustrated - surely that's allowed?

I personally think if we did play crap - a manager should have the right to express it. I don't think it's necessarily throwing players under the bus - lots of fans who were at the game thought we were rotten today. I would personally rather a manager came out and said that than glossed over it. 

[grizzlyg]

Was never going to be a classic and at least we got a bonus point. To  any Bois that were there we won on pens as obviously you would't know as you were more interested playing with a football than watching also game.

Also SOD wasn't great but the abuse that guy takes is embarrassing 

[wellgirl]

3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Was never going to be a classic and at least we got a bonus point. To  any Bois that were there we won on pens as obviously you would't know as you were more interested playing with a football than watching also game.

Also SOD wasn't great but the abuse that guy takes is embarrassing 

Downright embarrassing. (I'm saying no more). Night 

[Hope Springs]

4 hours ago, weeyin said:

Pittodrie or beat Dundee Utd in front of a huge crowd

There were a few factors that mitigated today’s performance - the heat, the appalling pitch that acted as a great leveller, and a referee who was very lenient towards cynical time wasting by Clyde - but in my opinion a good number of our fans had a poorer game than Stephen O’Donnell. Many of the things they accuse home of - losing concentration being the most obvious - they displayed throughout the ninety minutes, playing volleyball, lighting flares and directing unkind and unnecessary comments towards the team. Not that they can’t criticise a poor performance but singling out someone who was far from the worst, who was not directly responsible for either of the goals we conceded and who always shows willing and makes himself available is not how I would characterise supporting your team. In a game we didn’t lose. We should be better than this considering we are a community club, fan owned and team oriented. We will need to be better than this if we start this nonsense this early in the season.

[wellgirl]

31 minutes ago, Hope Springs said:

There were a few factors that mitigated today’s performance - the heat, the appalling pitch that acted as a great leveller, and a referee who was very lenient towards cynical time wasting by Clyde - but in my opinion a good number of our fans had a poorer game than Stephen O’Donnell. Many of the things they accuse home of - losing concentration being the most obvious - they displayed throughout the ninety minutes, playing volleyball, lighting flares and directing unkind and unnecessary comments towards the team. Not that they can’t criticise a poor performance but singling out someone who was far from the worst, who was not directly responsible for either of the goals we conceded and who always shows willing and makes himself available is not how I would characterise supporting your team. In a game we didn’t lose. We should be better than this considering we are a community club, fan owned and team oriented. We will need to be better than this if we start this nonsense this early in the season.

SOD gets more abuse even when the rest of the defence is honking - part of me actually thinks he should be moved on for his own good. 

[santheman]

Exactly what I expected.

Shite football on a shite park in a shite stadium only made worse by getting burnt alive with a 30mins wait in the kiosk queue and the usual wee fannies costing the club another fine by letting off flares amongst other things.

On the positive side we were probably always going to have to beat Morton in the last game to qualify regardless of the result today, assuming we don't massively **** things up against the 2 minnows.

[wellsince75]

Not hugely surprised at how things panned out .

manager has been in for a few weeks

Still got several players to sign .

Fitness and sharpness is that of pre season - because it is preseason . 

several plays getting to know one another . 

new formation, new ways of playing . All of this takes time . 

Protected a few players by not risking them on that awful pitch .

Think it was mcgarrys article a couple of weeks ago the spelled out the need for patience .  He was spot on , it’s going to take time to settle in after this significant overhaul of players , manager, change in approach .

 

[wellon]

8 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

Was never going to be a classic and at least we got a bonus point. To  any Bois that were there we won on pens as obviously you would't know as you were more interested playing with a football than watching also game.

Also SOD wasn't great but the abuse that guy takes is embarrassing 

I've never really rated sod but it's not nice to see the guy getting it tight week In week out.

The fans aren't  not known for their patience,  here's hoping new guy will stick to his guns re style of play. 

[wellon]

8 hours ago, Hope Springs said:

There were a few factors that mitigated today’s performance - the heat, the appalling pitch that acted as a great leveller, and a referee who was very lenient towards cynical time wasting by Clyde - but in my opinion a good number of our fans had a poorer game than Stephen O’Donnell. Many of the things they accuse home of - losing concentration being the most obvious - they displayed throughout the ninety minutes, playing volleyball, lighting flares and directing unkind and unnecessary comments towards the team. Not that they can’t criticise a poor performance but singling out someone who was far from the worst, who was not directly responsible for either of the goals we conceded and who always shows willing and makes himself available is not how I would characterise supporting your team. In a game we didn’t lose. We should be better than this considering we are a community club, fan owned and team oriented. We will need to be better than this if we start this nonsense this early in the season.

All these reasonable comments on here, so where do all the bunkernuts come from?