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Motherwell v Kilmarnock 30/08/2025


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11 hours ago, star sail said:

I just don't get the hatred towards Kettlewell.

He saved us from relegation in his first season in charge, there is almost no doubt about that. We got our first league win at Ibrox in many years. He got the best out of KVV, turned Theo Bair into a sellable asset and introduced Lennon Miller to the first team squad.

It is generally agreed that he worked his socks off for the club to the point where it all got too much in the end.

When the fans turned on him in the last few games ( as they did very vocally) he reacted in kind and made some ill judged decision. It happens with human beings under considerable pressure.

Would any one of us want him back as manager of our club? No. 

Does he really deserve to be slaughtered for contributing to the continued SPFL status of our club, a status that allows JBA to now do his thing? I don't think he does.

There were some comments over the last few weeks about Dougie Imrie being the pantomime villain and how tragedy shows how shallow those negative emotions actually are.

Do we really need Kettlewell to be another pantomime villain so that we can enjoy the football and feel validated in our opinions?

All some fans have done is turn on him as quick as he turned on us, except we ain’t the liars who whored ourselves out to the Sun newspaper. He lied to try to deflect from his own failings. I’m not saying he deserves verbal abuse on Saturday, but he does deserve all the criticism and heat that’s coming his way.

 

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11 hours ago, wellgirl said:

I don't think any club who plays us should be subjected to an intimidating atmosphere - when was the last time that happened at Fir Park. There are lots of kids going too. Who cares that much - I certainly don't. 

Just playing into his hands if we give him a hard time. 

Good grief what has fitbaw become. 

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I liked Kettlewell as manager more than most and I think there's a kernel of truth there about how our fanbase treat managers- but on a whole the way he left was more disingenuous and self-serving than anybody else in my time supporting Motherwell. 

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Not really sure what intimidating atmosphere means. But I think the crowd should Channel the energy into backing the team. I think some people are of the opinion that the best think we can do to annoy SK is to ignore him but of course I’m sure there are many who want to have a go at him.            You pay your money you take your choice. I’m just hoping our performance on the park keeps us us enthralled and that we have no time to even think about SK ‘cause we are enjoying watching our team so much 

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27 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Back the team and ignore everything else. This game will be harder that alot of people expect. Killie are no mugs. Seldom do we get easy games.

Correct!  No easy games. We are certainly capable of taking 3 points but need to continue to play well and keep our focus for the full game, taking our chances when they come along. 

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Bored talking about him,  he done great to steady ship after hammell and of course the Bair deal was awesome.   But for me the way he left and dragged support under bus and then that interview with Oprah mcgregor was final straw.

But as already said I DON'T want toxic atmosphere and JB also hinting that.  Let's get right behind team and pump killie, that would be perfect reply

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2 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

But as already said I DON'T want toxic atmosphere and JB also hinting that.  Let's get right behind team and pump killie, that would be perfect reply

This.

I don't mind giving certain ex players and managers a bit of stick, but I'd much rather be getting behind our players as our 4th or 5th goal hits the back of the net.

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We should treat Stuart Kettlewell the same as we would any other visiting manager - ignore him. We’ve moved on and have a much better manager now.

As for Saturday’s game, I think it’s odds-on Kilmarnock will come and sit in and try to catch us on the break. I think our new way of playing is going to be best suited to away games, where the onus is on the home team to go forward and try to win. Like Hearts last week, it lets us exploit the space after turning over possession. Be interesting to see how we approach Saturday’s game. Hoping for a right good performance and a win. COYW.

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I won't be giving abuse towards Kettlewell at all , he done a decent job in the 2 years and won't ever forget our first league win at Ibrox in 27 years 

My main annoyance about him was the way it ended . Fan abuse which shouldn't be acceptable, but silence for 3 weeks on the issue after he left . Then on the day Michael Wimmer was appointed there was story after story for a full week or so afterwards. Stevie Frail has my respect for the way he conducted himself at the time

I have certainly moved on since then and loving the JBA revolution 👏 

 

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24 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said:

I won't be giving abuse towards Kettlewell at all , he done a decent job in the 2 years and won't ever forget our first league win at Ibrox in 27 years 

My main annoyance about him was the way it ended . Fan abuse which shouldn't be acceptable, but silence for 3 weeks on the issue after he left . Then on the day Michael Wimmer was appointed there was story after story for a full week or so afterwards. Stevie Frail has my respect for the way he conducted himself at the time

I have certainly moved on since then and loving the JBA revolution 👏 

 

This sums up my exact feelings about him. Of course no excuse for clowns giving him pelters but was it as bad as he made out? Plus on day of wimmer appointment there is exclusive interview with The Sun.

For me it's ignore him tomorrow and get right behind JB who i think is absolutely brilliant and going to be great for us.   Motto tomorrow.......ignore SK.......Hunners of JB songs

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Was looking forward to going to the game as it seems like a whole other close season since I last saw us against Rangers.

Then I come on here and we are still getting the rampant victim blaming and hate towards Kettlewell.  

Yuck.

Maybe it's a form of de-tox to only have a home game every 30 days.

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I’m of the view that we don’t need any negative atmosphere before the game starts.

A few of our team worked with him and possibly still like the guy so any shit shouted at him could potentially inadvertently knock their thoughts/concentration at the start of the game. 
 

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Just play our own game, support our team loudly and win the game playing the football we have seen all season. That will be enough of a statement to Kettlewell. No need to fire their team and supporters up by having a go at him. 

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I see that the weather has to change fairly dramatically around kick-off to heavy rain and strong winds. That might suit Kilmarnock if they are looking to make the game physical and disruptive.

I think Motherwell will get over the line with a victory today but only just. 

I am hopeful that the supporters will focus on our own team and the positivity around the good start to the season because any negativity, like the adverse weather, will play into Killies hands. 

A narrow 1-0 victory with plenty of patience required throughout the 90 minutes.

 

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42 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

Was looking forward to going to the game as it seems like a whole other close season since I last saw us against Rangers.

Then I come on here and we are still getting the rampant victim blaming and hate towards Kettlewell.  

Yuck.

Maybe it's a form of de-tox to only have a home game every 30 days.

To be fair everyone on the forum have been singing from same songsheet and saying that he shouldn't get booed as that would just play into his hands.  All our fans need to get right behind JB and players. 

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At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what kind of welcome our fans give Kettlewell today. He’s a narcissist who will spin his own narrative, and the press will lap it up regardless.

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2 hours ago, Stuwell2 said:

I’m of the view that we don’t need any negative atmosphere before the game starts.

A few of our team worked with him and possibly still like the guy so any shit shouted at him could potentially inadvertently knock their thoughts/concentration at the start of the game. 
 

Nah, just nah .

Why don't "these players" just have a wee chin wag with him and a cup of tea before the game and wish him all the best. 

You really don't believe that do you.

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3 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

Was looking forward to going to the game as it seems like a whole other close season since I last saw us against Rangers.

Then I come on here and we are still getting the rampant victim blaming and hate towards Kettlewell.  

Yuck.

Maybe it's a form of de-tox to only have a home game every 30 days.

Your posts always come across as similar to a film critic reviewing a new release rather than a football fan who enjoys going to support their team.

”It was a fairly low budget production which delivered the standard of film you would expect, wasn’t brilliant but it certainly wasn’t terrible either.

The way the audience reacted to it was a disgrace, but not surprising. Totally ungrateful and lacking basic understanding of the movie industry and the online reviews only reinforces this. It has to be said that so many cinema goers really are deplorable people with no common sense whatsoever.
 

At the end of the day it was well written and credit goes to the producer…Graham Alexander.”

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