The Alfred Johansson Thread

[wellup83]

1 hour ago, Lobey_Dosser said:

the centre forward position remains unresolved. 

I'm not sure what you expect in the centre forward situation? We're not a club that's going to attract a 20 goals a season striker. I thought big Seb worked his socks off today again but when you're carrying a passenger in the form of Maswanhise and you don't offer the ball to Longelo, our biggest threat on the wing what more can he do? When he went off and I saw Thor coming on I was pretty much resigned to us not scoring today. I still think he'll turn out to be a good signing.

[grizzlyg]

3 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said:

Im interested in what u see to back him

Appreciated bud , I feel whoever replaced JBA was always up against it. Early season I thought we were great and in Europe definitely gave great account.  I fully admit AJ has made errors and some line-up and formations bizarre but I feel the players really aren't helping with schoolboy errors and a clique thst definitely are I feel causing division in dressing room.

Time will tell pal

[Prestwickwell]

Just now, grizzlyg said:

Appreciated bud , I feel whoever replaced JBA was always up against it. Early season I thought we were great and in Europe definitely gave great account.  I fully admit AJ has made errors and some line-up and formations bizarre but I feel the players really aren't helping with schoolboy errors and a clique thst definitely are I feel causing division in dressing room.

Time will tell pal

No answer then?

[Prestwickwell]

2 minutes ago, wellup83 said:

I'm not sure what you expect in the centre forward situation? We're not a club that's going to attract a 20 goals a season striker. I thought big Seb worked his socks off today again but when you're carrying a passenger in the form of Maswanhise and you don't offer the ball to Longelo, our biggest threat on the wing what more can he do? When he went off and I saw Thor coming on I was pretty much resigned to us not scoring today. I still think he'll turn out to be a good signing.

I like seb, he’s not going to score the goals needed….but he defo offers a lot for me 

maybe need to look at how we play round about him?

runners, 2nd balls, crosses, a foil for him 

[grizzlyg]

Just now, Prestwickwell said:

No answer then?

Get the players in correct positions will help. Read my posts and I constantly say sparrow aint a right back and Maswanhise should be nowhere near the starting xi 

 

 

[Prestwickwell]

1 minute ago, grizzlyg said:

Get the players in correct positions will help. Read my posts and I constantly say sparrow aint a right back and Maswanhise should be nowhere near the starting xi 

 

 

So its on the manager then?

[grizzlyg]

Just now, Prestwickwell said:

So its on the manager then?

He has made mistakes with line-up and formation and I have said that numerous times. I just dont think its time yet to punt him..   we dont agree and I totally respect that bud

[Prestwickwell]

Just now, grizzlyg said:

He has made mistakes with line-up and formation and I have said that numerous times. I just dont think its time yet to punt him..   we dont agree and I totally respect that bud

I mean it’s a simple question that u replied to…..

give some evidence of what you’ve seen u like 

[grizzlyg]

2 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said:

I mean it’s a simple question that u replied to…..

give some evidence of what you’ve seen u like 

Hibs away.

Helsinki home.

St mirren in patches 

Just my view.    I better shoot bud.   Mrs grizzly just asked me to get another round of cruzcampos  🤣🤣

[Prestwickwell]

Just now, grizzlyg said:

Hibs away.

Helsinki home.

St mirren in patches 

Just my view.    I better shoot bud.   Mrs grizzly just asked me to get another round of cruzcampos  🤣🤣

St Mirren 30 minutes we were incredible…..until we collapsed 

hibs good result ( 1st game of the season)

still don’t hear any evidence of what u like, what patterns of play u see developing, who’s going to get us out of this mess, where the goals are coming from, what defensive attributes are going to produce clean sheets 

Very easy to say who do u say should come in, that’s why we have decision makers to get it right…..& deal with it when they they get it wrong 

[Kmcalpin]

1 hour ago, Lobey_Dosser said:

 the centre forward position remains unresolved. 

Yes it does. If we look at Thor, Palmer-Houlden and Hendry,for example, none are out and out goalscorers.  More a Ryan Bowman type rather than a Louis Moult. Maybe the first 2 are looked upon more as projects. The last goalscorer type we signed was Ap Stam. I've assumed, maybe wrongly it has to be said, that our 3 current strikers were signed with a view to them creating chances for others.   

[grizzlyg]

4 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said:

St Mirren 30 minutes we were incredible…..until we collapsed 

hibs good result ( 1st game of the season)

still don’t hear any evidence of what u like, what patterns of play u see developing, who’s going to get us out of this mess, where the goals are coming from, what defensive attributes are going to produce clean sheets 

Very easy to say who do u say should come in, that’s why we have decision makers to get it right…..& deal with it when they they get it wrong 

That's why I ain't a football manager.....and definitely not a comedian 🤣🤣, lets just call a trucecand hope for 3pts on Wednesday 

[Prestwickwell]

2 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

That's why I ain't a football manager.....and definitely not a comedian 🤣🤣, lets just call a trucecand hope for 3pts on Wednesday 

So I understand…..

Uv got nothing to back the manager on….nothing?

it is a truce, I’ve got an opinion nothing more, nothing less….uv got a different opinion…..but nothing to back it up?

[grizzlyg]

9 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said:

So I understand…..

Uv got nothing to back the manager on….nothing?

it is a truce, I’ve got an opinion nothing more, nothing less….uv got a different opinion…..but nothing to back it up?

I have given plenty views......I am on holiday!!  Can I just relax? 🤣🤣

[Prestwickwell]

3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

I have given plenty views......I am on holiday!!  Can I just relax? 🤣🤣

😂nothing 

enjoy the holiday mate 👍

[grizzlyg]

1 minute ago, Prestwickwell said:

😂nothing 

enjoy the holiday mate 👍

Cheers bud 😎

[ppower]

If anyone thinks this team goes to Perth and wins they really are optimists.

St Johnstone last 6 games won 2, drawn 2, lost 2

8pts out of a possible 18

Goals for 5 Goals against 8 

St Johnstone conceding on average just over 1 goal in last 6 games

Motherwell last 6 games won 0, drawn 0, lost 6

0pts out of a possible 18.

Goals for 5 Goals against 12

We are conceding on average 2 goals a game in our last 6.

They also have home advantage. I would take a draw right now.

[Big Wispy Flossy]

Less than 4 points from this weeks games and he needs emptied.

nice enough guy, but you don’t win games on that basis 

[Spiderpig]

14 minutes ago, ppower said:

If anyone thinks this team goes to Perth and wins they really are optimists.

St Johnstone last 6 games won 2, drawn 2, lost 2

8pts out of a possible 18

Goals for 5 Goals against 8 

St Johnstone conceding on average just over 1 goal in last 6 games

Motherwell last 6 games won 0, drawn 0, lost 6

0pts out of a possible 18.

Goals for 5 Goals against 12

We are conceding on average 2 goals a game in our last 6.

They also have home advantage. I would take a draw right now.

Stats are irrelevant pish, Hearts had not won a game away from Tynecastle since January 26 until today. So its how the team performs on the day that matters, previous or current form or lack of count for nothing.

We created a fair few really good chances today and took none of them thats why we lost, repeat the decent play that made those chances and convert them into goals and we may win on Wednesday night. Thst said we are hopeless up top just now so hopefully a solution can be found, so keep the faith people.

[star sail]

I think we need to do some serious soul searching as a support as to what we want the club to represent and what we want the future to look like. 

As a club we were on a rinse and repeat cycle of managers who offered short term fixes and early purple patches only for the results and performances to quickly slide and for the mood to turn grey around Firpark. I have read the same posters on here very quickly call for the head of just about every manager we have had for the last 25 years. 

Askou offered a new vision last year and we were all dazzled by what the future could potentially be. Unfortunately though it was somewhat of a mirage because it is simply not realistic to expect that we could repeat last year's achievements with a new manager.

I think time will prove Askou to be exceptional. The only chance we had for a repeat of last season was to keep him into this season and that was never really realistic.

Where does that leave us? To pull a second rabbit out of the hat was always going to be very unlikely. Askou was probably the managerial find of this century in Scotland. No other club has really managed something equivalent. It is very very hard to do.

Even if we did by some miracle find an equivalent he would last a year and be gone. That as a model is unsustainable.

What Askou did leave was a blueprint of how the club can move forward therby gaining a sense of sustainability and stability for the future.

We have brought in a young manager that buys into that vision, playing a modern brand of football, with a reputation for coaching young players, Are we really going to ditch him ( and potentially the blueprint) after 3 months and the first signs of trouble?

I have heard comments about AJ being inexperienced and out of his depth. He managed Rosenberg for 3 seasons, one of which they played in the Champions League. Motherwell is not a step up from that. He has experience. He has managed at a very decent level.

Just maybe the young manager has a really tough task on his hands. Just maybe he needs time to get it right. Just maybe if he does get it right we will once and for all leave behind the rinse and repeat short term fixes that has plagued us ( and every other club) on and off for the last 25 years.

There is no guarantee that a replacement could do any better. Look at how Hibs are struggling (foreign manager), look at how Kilmarnock are struggling (Scottish manager). Do we really want to give up on this already? 

 

 

 

 

[Spiderpig]

1 minute ago, star sail said:

I think we need to do some serious soul searching as a support as to what we want the club to represent and what we want the future to look like. 

As a club we were on a rinse and repeat cycle of managers who offered short term fixes and early purple patches only for the results and performances to quickly slide and for the mood to turn grey around Firpark. I have read the same posters on here very quickly call for the head of just about every manager we have had for the last 25 years. 

Askou offered a new vision last year and we were all dazzled by what the future could potentially be. Unfortunately though it was somewhat of a mirage because it is simply not realistic to expect that we could repeat last year's achievements with a new manager.

I think time will prove Askou to be exceptional. The only chance we had for a repeat of last season was to keep him into this season and that was never really realistic.

Where does that leave us? To pull a second rabbit out of the hat was always going to be very unlikely. Askou was probably the managerial find of this century in Scotland. No other club has really managed something equivalent. It is very very hard to do.

Even if we did by some miracle find an equivalent he would last a year and be gone. That as a model is unsustainable.

What Askou did leave was a blueprint of how the club can move forward therby gaining a sense of sustainability and stability for the future.

We have brought in a young manager that buys into that vision, playing a modern brand of football, with a reputation for coaching young players, Are we really going to ditch him ( and potentially the blueprint) after 3 months and the first signs of trouble?

I have heard comments about AJ being inexperienced and out of his depth. He managed Rosenberg for 3 seasons, one of which they played in the Champions League. Motherwell is not a step up from that. He has experience. He has managed at a very decent level.

Just maybe the young manager has a really tough task on his hands. Just maybe he needs time to get it right. Just maybe if he does get it right we will once and for all leave behind the rinse and repeat short term fixes that has plagued us ( and every other club) on and off for the last 25 years.

There is no guarantee that a replacement could do any better. Look at how Hibs are struggling (foreign manager), look at how Kilmarnock are struggling (Scottish manager). Do we really want to give up on this already? 

 

 

 

 

Well said, great post.