Motherwell v Freiburg 20/8/26

[steelman1991]

42 minutes ago, mio said:

Just watching some of the social media footage from last night. Looks like there was a bit of a skirmish in the town centre as a few of our Motherwell stone island throbbers took exception to the Freiburg fans march to the ground. Some of these wee tools are an embarrassment.

hope this doesn’t have a negative impact on the Well fans going and doing the same in Freiburg.

 

That's a bit of a wild take from "social media footage". First hand accounts tell a different story - bottles being launched by the Freiburg fans, which prompted retaliation. Questions do need to be asked of Police (and I use the term loosely) Scotland about their decision to allow both "corteos" to pass within yards of one another - details of both were widely publicised so adequate policing and alternative routes shouldn't have been a problem. Even allowing both to be in close proximity, there should have been sufficient police to "kettle" on or other, looked like there were about 2 police woman escorting the Freiburg group.

Long winded way to say - we're quick to condemn our own, but it's not always as clear cut as made out.

[Benson]

1 hour ago, SteelmaninOZ said:

Like to see this again?

 

Take it the nobhead that went over the barrier doesnt do social media and didnt see the message regarding going on trackside,or maybe doesnt give a fuck.

 

 

[steelman1991]

3 minutes ago, Benson said:

Take it the nobhead that went over the barrier doesnt do social media and didnt see the message regarding going on trackside,or maybe doesnt give a fuck.

 

 

More likely the latter 

[Kmcalpin]

21 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

........ and also when they didn't have it. Their appetite to recover possession was immense and contributed hugely to the suggestion from some that we "retreated into our shell". We didn't, we just simply couldn't get control of the ball long enough to mount attacks. A big, very athletic team, who popped the ball around with confidence, always moving (reminded me a bit of our own team last year, minus the big and athletic bit ). Absolutely no disgrace to go down to a team of that calibre. 

That will be one of my abiding memories of the game. They treated us with total respect as if we were prime Barcelona. Their movement on the ball was terrific and a joy to watch. Off the ball they worked tirelessly to close us down and possessed the physicality and athleticism to regain possession. We simply couldn't match them. That was no slight on us. 

I hope our younger players, and there were a lot of them, were watching and learnt lessons and also that our backroom staff took cognisance of their levels of athleticism and conditioning. 

[mio]

17 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

That's a bit of a wild take from "social media footage". First hand accounts tell a different story - bottles being launched by the Freiburg fans, which prompted retaliation. Questions do need to be asked of Police (and I use the term loosely) Scotland about their decision to allow both "corteos" to pass within yards of one another - details of both were widely publicised so adequate policing and alternative routes shouldn't have been a problem. Even allowing both to be in close proximity, there should have been sufficient police to "kettle" on or other, looked like there were about 2 police woman escorting the Freiburg group.

Long winded way to say - we're quick to condemn our own, but it's not always as clear cut as made out.

All I saw was groups of Freiburg fans who consisted mainly of da’s wife’s and weans…. The guy at the front was in a wheelchair? If you saw them launching bottles fair enough but on the footage I saw everything on their pointed at well fans being the more aggressive. If it was mainly Freiburg fans causing issues tho I’m happier with that take.

[Great Balls of Shire]

11 hours ago, robsterwood said:

Germans are cheats. Dive for the free kick for equaliser. Dive for pen. Hope the get beat in the group. 

Nah, it was a free kick, pen was a dive though

[Great Balls of Shire]

31 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

That's a bit of a wild take from "social media footage". First hand accounts tell a different story - bottles being launched by the Freiburg fans, which prompted retaliation. Questions do need to be asked of Police (and I use the term loosely) Scotland about their decision to allow both "corteos" to pass within yards of one another - details of both were widely publicised so adequate policing and alternative routes shouldn't have been a problem. Even allowing both to be in close proximity, there should have been sufficient police to "kettle" on or other, looked like there were about 2 police woman escorting the Freiburg group.

Long winded way to say - we're quick to condemn our own, but it's not always as clear cut as made out.

...Just walk to park and  dont throw fn bottles  applies to both sets then the much maligned police dont need to get involved 

[Great Balls of Shire]

32 minutes ago, Benson said:

Take it the nobhead that went over the barrier doesnt do social media and didnt see the message regarding going on trackside,or maybe doesnt give a fuck.

 

 

Im sure he will have social media and be a star for a day

[steelman1991]

22 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said:

...Just walk to park and  dont throw fn bottles  applies to both sets then the much maligned police dont need to get involved 

100% agree.

[wellfan]

Gutted. That was a 1-1 at best, 1-2 at worst sort of game. They’re clearly streets ahead of us, but we didn’t deserve that final result. What can you do, though, when you’re up against a team like that, an appallingly biased referee and some utterly crazy VAR interventions?! Game over.

[Mintymac]

The clown that ran on to the park . 
Identify and Barr him . Absolute rocket . 
Another incoming fine in the thousands . 

Re game proud of team .

Some top top performers in Moorman Reich and big fella up front had a good debut .

Lots to learn from game that an average SPL game would never give you .

Finally as a Well Society member and proud to be so when are you society board members actually going to show a bit of balls  re the fan incursion and flares that’s costing our club money .

Same goes  with the club management . Very timid approach .

Get it sorted guys far to soft on your approach to it . Not good enough .

 

[grizzlyg]

1 hour ago, Benson said:

Take it the nobhead that went over the barrier doesnt do social media and didnt see the message regarding going on trackside,or maybe doesnt give a fuck.

 

 

Should be easy to identify so a nice wee stadium ban hopefully.  Getting fed up with the very small minority who cross the line. All clubs have this problem so not just us.    I will focus on the 8500 genuine fans last night that created great tifos.....great singing.....lovely car horn...etc etc 

STAND UP AND SING FOR MOTHERWELL.....HONK HONK

[wellup83]

1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:

I hope our younger players, and there were a lot of them, were watching and learnt lessons and also that our backroom staff took cognisance of their levels of athleticism and conditioning. 

Absolutely. Plenty to be learning from.

I always wonder though and I'm no expert by any means. Is the physicality and athleticism side entirely down to fitness and gym work or is an element of that down to genetics? I don't believe our players put any less effort in in training then they do. Are clubs with better resources just able to identify players with better athleticism as well as footballing ability?