Dundee United v Motherwell 07/11/2026

[Prestwickwell]

In reality it doesn’t matter whether people think his comments are in bad taste or not 

managers are paid well to do a job & the decision makers won’t be reading this forum & going we should act on that 

there’s simple facts 

13 points from 13 games is not good enough 

Getting knocked out the cup by a team beaten by Morton today is not good enough 

people can argue this is better, we’re improving here & here 

the only facts are points 

[Kmcalpin]

Whether you agree with the term "tick tock" or not, I don't think its in bad taste. Wellfan could equally have phrased it like "time is running out" or similar. He calls a spade a spade and thats ok in my book. I'm not saying he is always 100% right, no one ever is, but his opinions generally merit serious consideration. He is more often right than wrong. 

AJ has gained some credit in the past 3 games, without doubt, but there are still unanswered questions. For me, the jury is still very much out. Some big games, winnable ones, coming up, and he will be put to the test. 

Its a results driven business, but I still have major doubts about our defence, midfield, and attack. Questions too about our style of play, although theres no doubt thats its far superior to Alexanderball and Kettleball. 

[wellfan]

34 minutes ago, star sail said:

We have a young manager who has moved his family to Scotland to commit fully to making a success of the Motherwell managers job. If it had been up to people like yourself he would have lost that job a few weeks ago and his life would have been in a form of turmoil.

A comment like tick tock suggesting that his position was a ticking time bomb was in bad taste. If you are going to make the comment at least take ownership for it ( I know another shitty modern day phrase). 

The phrase shows a lack of any empathy or concern for the managers position. I don't think that is really open to any interpretation.

It hasn't worked out for you this last few weeks. You may still get your wish but not quite yet.

Here we go again. I didn’t suggest his position was a ticking time bomb. I wrote “Tick tock”. Stop putting words in my mouth. I’m not going to be lectured by someone who’s making an arse of themselves over a two-word comment they’ve wilfully chosen to misinterpret.

[FirParkCornerExile]

2 hours ago, MJC said:

Another papering over the crack result today because we were never scoring today unless we got a penalty, same as last week. The penalty was very fortune as well but obviously that’s not in our control. In the end we were hanging on for dear life and had we lost we could have had no complaints.

Hanging on for dear life ? nonsence

[joewarkfanclub]

4 hours ago, wellfan said:

There’s still time yet. We’re still generally pish. Four points from the last two games is fair enough, but both goals came from penalties and we struggle to score from open play. We’re still defensively weak, powderpuff up front and all too often resort to this passive, ceding-possession crap. The in-game management is questionable too, with some continually bonkers subs. And Vogt starting the Celtic game will forever remain one of Alfred’s most ridiculous decisions. Thirteen league games, three wins, four draws and six defeats. Pumped out of the League Cup at the first hurdle too. The European football was the one positive, but that was before Alfred got his way with the squad on the training pitch.

For comparison, at the same stage of JBA’s tenure, we had four wins, seven draws and just two defeats from 13 league games. He didn’t have European football, but he did take us on a six-game League Cup run before St Mirren eventually pumped us out in the semi-final.

I know comparisons with JBA will inevitably be dismissed as unfair, but that’s precisely why I’ve chosen their respective starts. This was before JBA had really got us up and running, so I’m not comparing Alfred’s current form with JBA once he’d established himself and got the team playing. I’m looking at how the two managers started.

Objectively, it’s been a poor start domestically, and I remain unconvinced he’s the right man for the job. Some see progress, but looking at the bigger picture I don’t.

You've formed your opinion, and thats fair enough.

I was getting to the officially "concerned" stage after the Celtic game. That was so bad you would have to be delusional to see any good in it.

However, there has been steady improvement in the last few weeks, so I cant agree that we are "still pish."

We are far from the finished article and there is still much to improve upon. But there is clear evidence for me that the squad are still together, playing for the manager and taking on board his coaching.

A striker that can score goals would help as we do create a lot of chances, but we are stuck with what we have until January, or JT finds any form.