TheLip69 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Boruc will leave celtic at the end of the season and there's nae chance of us signing Mark Brown. I was wondering when someone was going to point that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I was wondering when someone was going to point that out. They've got Zaluska and some American Under-23 international coming in, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Stand_Al Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 just as long as soley and mamman aren't mentioned. anyone know what happened to the two african world beaters? Soley was last seen on trial with Norwich City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Stand_Al Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 just as long as soley and mamman aren't mentioned. anyone know what happened to the two african world beaters? Soley had a trial with Norwich City, don't think it came to anything though so he'll proably be back for another trial this pre season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaddogman Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Maybe to watch his old club perhaps? Or even on his way back up north! or maybe BOTH his old clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'd love him back, but I just couldn't see it happening. Like a few others, I reckon Boruc will be on his way this summer. And three goalies isn't that many for a club like Celtic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Mark Brown was/is an excellent keeper whom Eric Black dropped for fuck all after a half mistake when coming for a corner in a cracking 2-2 draw with Rangers in December 2001. Wasn't even that bad a mistake! He never regained his place and when the club went into administration was deemed surplus to requirements. We then had to suffer more of Stevie Woods, who I don't think was ever dropped despite his catalogue of errors! I'd take Mark Brown back in a heart beat! He was treated absolutely disgracefully by the club. I mean it's bad enough he was made redundant but to be relegated to 2nd fiddle to Stephen Gerard Woods when he barely put a foot wrong was ridiculous. I don't know what the story with Eric Black and him was, but there was no explaination as to why he was dropped and Woods kept his place despite his first or 2nd game back in the side being an absolutely calamitous performance at home against St.Johnstone on Boxing Day of that season when he was beaten at his near post twice I think as we lost 2-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I mean it's bad enough he was made redundant but to be relegated to 2nd fiddle to Stephen Gerard Woods when he barely put a foot wrong was ridiculous. I too quite liked Mark Brown, but to be fair he was not universally liked. On a few occasions I had my work cut out defending him with others in East Stand. Quite a few Dossers would take issue with us MJC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faddythedaddy Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Seem to remember there were a few songs sung about him up in Inverness a few years back that he didny like Nae idea why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I too quite liked Mark Brown, but to be fair he was not universally liked. On a few occasions I had my work cut out defending him with others in East Stand. Quite a few Dossers would take issue with us MJC. Of course, he wasn't without his faults, as he was very suspect at dealing with cross balls. However he wasn't any worse than Woods was and he was dropped in favour of him so I just couldn't see the logic in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 My recollection is that Eric Black preferred Dubourdeaux to Brown. Mind you, Black always seemed to think French was best. Whereas the only French player I really took to was Yann Soloy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 My recollection is that Eric Black preferred Dubourdeaux to Brown. Mind you, Black always seemed to think French was best. Whereas the only French player I really took to was Yann Soloy... Brown was prone to the odd howler as much as Woods, Woods had previous so this counted x2 against him. What about yon boy from Le Havre? Delameaux? He wisnae shite either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdt Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Aye and what about Freddie Dindeleux. He was a cracking player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 What about yon boy from Le Havre? Delameaux? He wisnae shite either. Good player. Couldn't take to him though. Always seemed to think he was better than he was. Least that was how he came across on the field... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 What sickened me about Delameaux was when he went to Aberdeen he scored a couple of crackers against us! Was a good player if I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bop Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Great for us but didnt do too much for Aberdeen after his first season there. Soloy was a cracking wee player though, whatever happened to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Good player. Couldn't take to him though. Always seemed to think he was better than he was. Least that was how he came across on the field... Correct Greg - and off the field too by all accounts. A player doesn't just require talent he needs to be part of the team not just on, but also off, the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 And David Ferrere was the other one of course. Scored a hat trick on his debut against Hibs as a 2nd half substitute and then did absolutely nothing for the remainder of the season. In the case of Francois Dubourdeau, he was also a vastly over rated goalkeeper by some of our fans (including myself at one point I must confess). Apart from the game against Rangers when he played a blinder, he really didn't cover himself in glory and I'm sure he had an absolute stinker when we got gubbed 3-0 at Firhill by Partick near the end of 02/03? Still, he was the man between the sticks the last time we actually beat the Ibrox mob and he played a big, big part in that so I suppose he wasn't all bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I think this year we'll be after the same names as last summer, probably on loans as wages would be too hefty : Simon Lappin, Chris Killen, John Kennedy & Alan Gow (all at relegated norwich this season), maybe even Mark Fotheringham who is a free agent Wouldn't object to any of the names you mentioned there arriving at Fir Park (Gow is the one I'd be least enthusiastic about). On the subject of wages/loans though, I read somewhere that Fotheringham had been let go and I'm sure Kennedy's contract at Celtic is up this summer so surely they'd be free agents. Bring in Fotheringham for Hughes and sell Reynolds, replacing him with Kennedy? I'm sure the wages saved by Porter, Malcolm, Kilmpl and Hughes not being here would cover these guys. And any signing on fees would be covered by any fee we could get for Reynolds. I make it sound so simple... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_tony Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Wouldn't object to any of the names you mentioned there arriving at Fir Park (Gow is the one I'd be least enthusiastic about). On the subject of wages/loans though, I read somewhere that Fotheringham had been let go and I'm sure Kennedy's contract at Celtic is up this summer so surely they'd be free agents. Bring in Fotheringham for Hughes and sell Reynolds, replacing him with Kennedy? I'm sure the wages saved by Porter, Malcolm, Kilmpl and Hughes not being here would cover these guys. And any signing on fees would be covered by any fee we could get for Reynolds. I make it sound so simple... Remember that Hughes and Porter's wages were part-covered by JB from his pocket though. I honestly don't see that being an option this time round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Remember that Hughes and Porter's wages were part-covered by JB from his pocket though. I honestly don't see that being an option this time round. I'm only too aware of that, hence the . Even given Boyle's part-funding of their salaries, there should still be more cash available in terms of salaries this summer than last given last summer we only lost McCormack off the wage bill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammer Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Even given Boyle's part-funding of their salaries, there should still be more cash available in terms of salaries this summer than last given last summer we only lost McCormack off the wage bill... Melvin, what about the alleged pricing restructure of the Setanta TV deal? I know nothing official has been said but if it is true that it has decreased, then maybe that is why we are struggling a bit as opposed to last year? Unfortunately the farce of a pitch and the work to the Main Stand seem to have swallowed up our whole transfer budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Hughes + Porter wages were PART covered, judging by the extra £1m added onto this years wage bill according to the AGM financial figures a fair portion was covered by the club itself (yes there was MMG + Leitch`s new deals and some bonuses but £20k per week worth? dont think so!) Therefore this cash should be freed up. Also this scaremongering about the Setanta deal is pish, even with the SPL getting £100m instead of £125m, its STILL almost double our current deal, Id hardly plead poverty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammer Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Also this scaremongering about the Setanta deal is pish, even with the SPL getting £100m instead of £125m, its STILL almost double our current deal, Id hardly plead poverty!! Would love to see us sign a couple of decent players but I just don't think it's going to happen. Scrapping around the Bosmans and loan deals is about as much as we can muster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigshinyhead Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Also this scaremongering about the Setanta deal is pish, even with the SPL getting £100m instead of £125m, its STILL almost double our current deal, Id hardly plead poverty!! Exactly, I think the current deal is for around £15m per year. Even after the re-negotiation the new deal will be worth £25m per year although the bigot brothers still hoover up around 40% of it and the rest of us get to run around for the rest like weans at a scramble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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