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I've seen Arbroath beat us more than once when we were supposedly the superior side.

Have to say, when I saw it on the pitch I thought it was a bit harsh. A yellow, certainly, but I would have been disappointed had it happened to a 'Well player in those circumstances. Am I being too fair? 🤣

I remember Bevis getting a red very early on, in cup game I think it was, for less.

As an aside, Emmanuel Agyei's red card was upheld today at an appeal. What a surprise!

My small brane can't really cope with this but I hope to learn:

Even I could teach him a few things, me old haricot!

If we were 3pts clear going into final game of season I would gladly love Arbroath at home! 🤣🤣

I don't bet on us as don't want to jinx us but if you fancy another 3-2 well we are 45-1 with willie hills

Ok so the two lower leagues would play 3 times and then a split for 5 single games, same as the top league does now?

Could teach tam Cowan a few things 🤣🤣

I certainly hope so. I still marvel at his command of English as a second language: puts some of the churnalists to shame.

A very balanced assessment, as a PODite with back pain (and awaiting Bovril-scalded head/knees). I have to say the management recruitment by the Board in the last two seasons has been exceptional and visionary. Also, its criticism of Celtic's supporters has been well-timed to avoid accusations of sour grapes. The scenes at FP in our last home game almost made me wonder what was the point of watching football any more when the entire Celtic entourage broke onto the field to celebrate their tarnished "victory" after the dreadful refereeing/VAR decisions. I think we could have a very exciting and productive season this year because our squad seems strong and committed. Both of The Cheeks are under pressure. Hearts may be on the up now their manager has had a chance to put his feet under the table and we need more competition to put the OF under pressure. Hibs might recover from their derby disappointment and St Mirren also seem to have turned away from the Dark Path of kick and rush.

It would make it harder. This reminds me of VAR when most people just wanted it through without actually thinking about the inevitable consequences. Last season Hearts took 7 points vs 4 points against Celtic. That's the way to win the league. If you expand to 18 teams you will end up with probably 10 teams about the level St Johnstone and Killie are at currently plus clubs like ourselves would have less money to bring in players due to smaller crowds and the TV money being reduced and split an extra 6 ways. The average league game would be far easier for Celtic and Rangers than it currently is. Personally I think anyone who would rather play Raith Rovers or Morton over the Old Firm, Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen is off their nut. Look at our final two home matches last season. Fir Park was jumping for 4th matches versus Hearts and Celtic, absolutely no one was wishing we were playing Arbroath instead.

I honestly dont see the spfl or spl pr sfa ever improving in any meaningful way. Ive hit a point of care about motherwell the rest of scottish football i really cant be arsed with. I dont even talk football at work anymore.

Very much this. The thing is that Brian knows many fans may be unhappy with the outcome but he is also aware that very few will vote with their feet or move elsewhere. Nobody likes change and the prime seats elsewhere are spoken for. Plus fans are loyal to the team they support and build up relationships with those fans sitting beside them. I note Brian has backtracked from hinting that fans would have to be relocated elsewhere in the ground. For me that possibility came across as a threat. Now he mentions being relocated within the POD. A grudging acceptance perhaps that there is scope to reduce capacity and still house all Season Ticket holders currently within the POD. If the willing is there. What we should now see is a proposal to reconfigure the POD in the lead up up to next season, detailing exactly where each season ticket holder would end up. Put that out for consultation then proceed if agreed. Exactly what should have happened this time round. Again Brian stated that the need for change was identified months before season end and in anticipation of hosting European fixtures. So it is disappointing that for a Club so closely linked to it's supporters that consultation was not considered appropriate. I agree finance appears to have been the driver from the outset and sadly the views of those affected will continue to be largely ignored. In time those complaints will disappear as folk give up hope. Brian's interview indicated to me that the man is not for turning. As for the Society? Their role appears to have been to act as postman. The discussions I had with them suggested that all correspondence had been passed to Brian. But also that that was the limit to which they wished to get involved. What Brian says etc etc. I actually find it sad that we are having this discussion. On the pitch the performances have been fantastic and the progress the team has made under Jens and Alfred has been amazing. The quality of player and football we are seeing week upon week is exceptional. Football is fun once again. The fan base has grown beyond what anyone could have hoped for. Away games are a joy and we fear no-one. The Board have excelled in moving on from Jens in identifying and supporting his replacement so credit to them for that. Brian has even called out Celtic and their toxic fans which is a brave thing to do. But they have let themselves down in this one area.

Indeed, we don't face anyone now with tactic being park the bus. Even against freiburg we stuck to our principles

How good is it going to Ibrox knowing that they will be out to stop US playing.

The top league currently has 12 teams and plays 38 games.

Seems like an ever smarter move recruiting Alfred when you hear about his knowledge and experience with developing youngsters. Even if the the SFA don't listen to him, I'm sure out Board will.

On P&B when the seats were being put in, I jokingly posted if they had checked the depth of the seats as all the comms talked about was width and height. I deleted it because it was smart-arsey really, but here we are. I was quite disappointed after the Celtic game that the club didn't make a statement. May well have come across as sour grapes etc, but the conduct of their fans wasn't on. There were quite rightly some furious Motherwell fans that night and not just at the ref.

The turkeys dont vote for christmas, the clubs inherrent self interests will kick in so any plan that involves less income from games especially against the uglies will never be agreed.

EPL has 20 teams and championship has 24 teams and it’s not an issue but where does 38 games come from?

So far for me in the emails and statements from the club on this issue the standout thread is finance., Did not want to reduce seats in the POD, maximising seat availability for the Euro games, etc. This is what you would expect if the existing seats were compliant etc but not when the alleged solution swapped out better seats for cheap, shoddy not fit for purpose ones, thats putting profit ahead of fan comfort and safety. The reduction in the pod prices back in May/June now makes sense, to nullify the more money for poorer seats argument, however that objective failed with the choice of seats we got. We all know the constraints of the pod, the UEFA compliance etc, etc but the choice of new seats was poor, was any proper testing done, i think not. So moving forward im sure that all that people want is for the club to man up and admit they got it wrong, set out a plan / timescale to resolve the issue and then get it done. But burying their heads and hoping there are no accidents resulting in negligence claims against the club is not the way to proceed. As for the WS, im not a member but their silence on the issue speaks volumes of how they see their role in interacting with the club, ie attend the meetings but stay quiet, and dont rock the boat, they should be ashamed. The POD ST renewal figures next May / June should be interesting.

I don’t mind the 12 team set up and I specifically like the intensity of the split but an 18, 12 , 12 set up might work. Straight promotion and relegation or perhaps a play off final between the third bottom and third top of each league. The issue with this is that if the lower leagues played 38 games the 34 game top league would be finished a month earlier. Perhaps the lower leagues could play 3 times only for a 33 game season.

100% great options to have. I wouldn't mind RCC coming in to the starting 11 for SPH either as we will have counter attacking opportunities with his pace.