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Do we think that is us as for players coming in and it shall just be maybe out goings?

Of course, all about opinions which is how it should be

Freiburg beat Werder Bremen by the same scoreline and sit joint top of the Bundesliga.

The Arabs had a great result at the weekend, so they'll be full of confidence coming into this one. I'll go for our favourite scoreline - 4-3.

To be fair, he had Lewis Stevenson ahead of him at Raith and he's a solid and experienced player. No surprise that Wilson struggled to get minutes, so there was no realistic opportunity for him to improve. Assuming that McGinn is out for a while yet, I'd keep Wilson on until January as cover, then reassess.

Be some forum if you can’t have opinions on players 😂

Gone from feeling that we have a thin squad to feeling like we now have a bloated one. 31 players is too many. I think we should be looking to move on McGhee, Wilson and Stama with Ross and Booth going out on loan before Thursday's deadline. 26 man squad is probably about right.

But he isnt really good enough nothing whipping boy about it.He has went to Raith on loan came back not Improved any. Nothing against the guy just dont think he is good enough for us more so now.

Probably didn't word it well pal. Yup not heard much from the stands if any, was meaning more of the chat on the forum. Vogt I woukd love to see come good and still feel he needs time to adapt. Time will tell

Has mrs grizzly hacked your account?............feck.....I've done it again 🤣🤣

You'll be getting tied to the tracks at motherwell train station.😂

Whipping boy chats just lazy in the games I’ve been to this season I haven’t heard anything to suggest whipping boy hysteria I don’t think vogts anywhere near the level personally, ( & either does the manager by the look of it judging by his game time at st mirren ) Wilson for me decent squad player, low wage. If we can get someone better in then happy days, if not decent squad player

There's always a whipping boy and at moment it's poor Euan with Willy a close 2nd behind him. I always feel we need to give them more support as negativity wont help them

I lose track pal....sorry

Yes but England most Europeans are today and is hope we don’t sell to SPFL rivals

Wilson isn’t “hanging about” as far as I’m concerned, he’s a valuable squad player who can cover for injuries or suspension’s and come in when others tire or the defence needs added to during a game. I really don’t get this obsession some people have to get him out the door. OK he needs to improve a bit to be a first pick player but he’s still a useful player to have and could still become a first choice player in time.

Ffs , stop repeating your old jokes.

We've recruited well so far but I'm not having that. Moormann's been good but Welsh was a level above in my opinion.

Trolls should live under bridges and be scared of Big Billy Goats....

I thought for a minute you were trolling me! But I could actually make peace with that move! 😍😍😍 🧡❤️🧡 v 💙❤️💙

Nah, but the fairplay regulations seem to be hampering any progress that they are trying to make (whilst Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool etc seem to be able to spend what they like). Of the team that won the Europa League they have lost Martinez, Digne, Konsa, Tiellmens, Rogers, Watkins. That puts our troubles into perspective.

Longelo stays and we have one of the best left sides in SPL,Williams at left back push Longelo up goals and assets for days. Maybe this is why Wilson is still hanging about though cause Longelo is expected to leave. I wouldnt let Manny go for anything less than 3 million starting he is only going to get better and it be 5 million starting for the manky two in Glasgow starting.

Models been excellent recently, entertaining to watch, bringing in a lot of revenue & the recruitment on the whole has been excellent as well if we’re selling to a Scottish club should be a hefty premium on top

The one thing we do not need to do is to sell to any other club in Scotland. Fine if they go south or abroad, but not the arse cheek, like we used to. Weakening our team to assist these two parasites.

And if the player excels in year 2 we will trigger the option which increases his market value should we decide to sell when the going is good. Compared to how we are placed if a player is in the final few months of his contract and playing well. Also suggests to me that we are looking to sell players who excel towards the end of that two year period. For maximum gain.