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I think there was a lot of resistance amongst the dinosaurs of our Scottish football world, who resented an outsider showing that our SPL payers could actually play attractive, attacking, pass-based football beyond traditional Scottish kick-and-rush. It put them to shame basically, so they (e.g. Ian McCall) confected grievances like their pearl-clutching reaction to Askou's comments on Handley or MFC's 140 years of relative failure. Not necessarily a huge fan of M. Stewart but he played straight with us, as did Andy Halliday, who was frozen out instantly by JBA but could see his methods worked and were quite visionary (for Scotland). Hats off to him. Don't know what Alfred will achieve here frankly but he's not JBA so will have to model the team given his resources and in line with his own beliefs. He needs until the window to see if he can improve our performances as he adjusts to our league, one which his predecessor couldn't wait to get away from, and for good reason. He's in a foreign country with a wife and young child so I think he needs some slack cut for him at the moment. Like many MFC fans, I suspect, I'm dismayed but not but not reaching for the malt whisky cabinet yet.

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I don't think he is saying he did pick the right starting XI, just that it was the right decision based on the information he had at his disposal at the time. How many time do we hear of players ( or entire teams) training well but it does not translate on a Saturday? He must be seeing something from Vogt in training that is not translating to a performance on match day. What do you do? Ditch him as a lost cause at this early stage?

Interesting to read the comments by AJ about Vogt regarding training. Also it would appear that Maswanhise has not been behaving himself in his social life going by some recent social media posts. What we see is a 90 mins snapshot of 3 weeks of training, players living their lives for good or bad, personal/professional issues for individual players, fitness, injury etc, etc. Judging the decisions of the manager on the 90 mins snapshot only is like heading straight into the tip of the iceberg with abandon because you can't see what lies beneath.

Or all three, even 🤩.

I just don't know, but both Falkirk and St Mirren are media darlings so its maybe an unfair comparison?

Yup........tried to be funny........and failed 🤣🤣

I see what you did there 🤣

An irishman, called English working in Scotland, its all double Dutch to me 🤣

Helsinki was great performance from said but also great team performance imo

I’ve not seen much of Killie but going by their highlights at Ibrox, Hugil and John Jules will fancy bullying us.

No one in particular pal , just a hunch and could be totally way off mark. I am in the pro AJ camp and still have confidence in him, though yes results are crucial

Tom English talks the biggest amount of shite he should stick to rugby.

They were all pro Jens but I just wonder if AJ not going to be as liked. Tbh pal I think we all overhink when on a bad run. Ohhhhh how i wish for a massive victory on Saturday

What journos and pundits would you associate with setting an agenda? I’ve admittedly only heard from McGarry and Halliday and both were spot on imo. I think the wider media were actually a little lazy with their narrative at the start of the season, getting a little carried away with a fortunate win against Hibs and a Said inspired win against Helsinki.

Has there been a media backlash against us? I dont buy newspapers, so no idea what they are saying. Sportsound was always anti Jens due to him showing their old boys network up. Halliday and Stewart were always pretty positive, Tom English a bit of a weather vane, the rest not so much.

Yeh, thought it might be a bit too early for him, back soon hopefully! Results with and without him this seasons are pretty stark (European games apart). I think JKL looks more suited to a full back role than JGR, but I suppose time will tell!

I don't think priestman is ready yet pal. Swap JKL and JGR round and that team looks fine

For the weekend I’d go with: Paulsen JKL, JGR, Moorman, Longelo Preistman, Fadinger, Lowery Maswanhise, Palmer-Houlden, Said Hodge for Preistman if he’s not fit enough yet.

Just my opinion and certainly wouldn't expect folk to agree but seeing as Jens and our wonderful club were loved by the media, do you think some journos might have an agenda against AJ? we all know recent run not good but funny how john mcglynn not getting hard time despite Falkirk struggling and also buddies were honking at weekend yet no backlash against mcleish. I could be totally wrong and personally AJ needs to address the issues and hopefully get a great victory on Saturday COYW

Agreed. I was surprised to hear AJ raise concerns about the age profile of the squad at the recent Well society Q&A. Given the volume of incomings, I had assumed that the preference of Daws & AJ was to go exclusively for 25 and under.

Yes I do think it’s been a bit one dimensional in that respect at one stage I wondered if we had another Gannon who only signed youngsters

Only got 20 minutes. Game was gone by then, so no real chance to impress.

We signed some decent players over the summer, but maybe a bit unbalanced in some respects e.g. age and lack of leadership. I'm all for signing "projects", but does anyone else think we've overdone that a bit? Typically they might take a year or two to come good. Can AJ get the best out of them?

And a bag of cans?