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When it looked like we were going to get over the line last night I was obviously feeling relieved but at the same time knew that all it would do was kick the can down the road with a manager who needs to be gone asap. But obviously I’d have been happy with us winning. When we chucked it away it felt like a defeat and in all honesty we would have been as well losing because playing ‘well’ against a really poor St.Johnstone team and still failing to get over the line does us no favours. Rather than kicking the can all it has done is shuffle along the pavement and it getting stuck in a drain.

we need the people who recruited in the summer to have fuck all to do with it in January .....🤣🤣😉(tongue in cheek)

It’s probably a different thread this & regardless of the manager, the team / squad isn’t good enough what do people think we need in January for mid table obscurity

I don’t disagree. Our defence is a shambles.

Yeah, of course they can look the same, but a good manager should be able to address these issues, within reason. The international break would be the perfect time to part company.

The consequences of relegation would likely be the loss of many more full-time jobs. As for who could replace him, I don’t know, and it’s not my job to know. I despise this question being thrown at fans whenever they want a failing manager removed. A competent Board should always be succession planning and have potential replacements identified.

We can discuss tactics ,manager decisions all night long . That’s a separate issue for me . For me the reason we conceded the late goal was a lack of desire to go and head that ball out the box . End of . There were plenty people in position to deal with it and we didn’t . The back line cost us the game last night . Cross not closed down and nobody wanting to win the header . It’s terrible defending . Basic defending any day of the week at any level of football you play at . Three points thrown away . Some of the players did there jobs last night and some didn’t . Simples

What consequences do you forsee and who would you bring in as a replacement if AJ does leave, would it be another foreign coach to continue the journey the board started with Wimmer or someone from the pool of usual suspects and part time pundits that " know the Scottish game"?

Correct lose the next two he's dead.

Ultimately, yes. But one can be fixed and requires more patience and understanding than the other. We are nearly at the natural break of the Nations League fixtures. What happens in the next 2 games will go a long way to deciding Alfreds future.

I rely on him because even at his age he's streets ahead of the dross in the centre of the defence right now. I'm not saying McGinn is our future but short term he's will be an improvement to get us to the January window where sadly we need to spend again to compensate for the poor recruitment in that area. Fuck me I'd bet my mortgage on 35 year old McGinn leaving Girwood-Reich standing in a flat chase to cover back.

Either way that’s down to the manager?

McGinn with one leg is streets ahead of Girwood-Reich and Moornan.

Tactically you are not wrong. As I said in an earlier post and last night we went into panic mode after we scored. A sure sign of a team under pressure. We abandoned our very effective 1st half play to try and defend the game out which was criminal. We resorted to the kind of tactics that Kettlewell would have been proud of after we went ahead. Yes I get the defend as a team angle but equally you do actually need a defence to be competent too and we just don't have it. St Johnstone literally had 3 efforts on our goal and scored with two because the defence is pish.

It is slightly scary that a few posters are relying on it being sorted by 36 year old injured Paul mcginn ( I like mcginn by the way ) maybe he does come back & fix it but on a the flip side we’re seeing a season to far for O’Donnell think how we’re defending as a team needs looked at ( previously said I think we need physicality in midfield ), no doubt the defence isn’t good enough as well though

Are we though? Or are we a team thats failing to take on instruction? The 2 can look the same.

I didnt see the whole game last night, only the highlights. So I wont comment on the overall performance or where that leaves us/Alfred. But, feck me. The defending for both their goals! The majority of goals we have conceded this season are so similar. Lots of Motherwell players in good positions to defend, but nobody taking the responsibility to go and engage an opponent, impact the ball or throw their body on the line to stop the goal. Thats not down to coaching. Thats just naked desire to win a football match. Its a mentality thing. Quite how the manager changes that I dont know. Obviously team selection and substitutions play a part, and Alfred has certainly made mistakes in that regard over the last few weeks. From what Im reading, it appears some are of the opinion he made similar mistakes last night, and thats fair enough But at some point you just have to trust the players when they cross that white line, that they understand whats required to win a football match. Right now our players are failing. Good to hear there were harsh words exchanged between the players last night after the game. Some plain speaking is definitely required.

I agree about Priestman but am not so sure about McGinn. He'll be a year older, missed pre season and has been out with a lengthy and serious injury. What McGinn will we see? Are we expecting too much of him?

You defend as a team, and that starts with an effective press or block and a functioning system from the middle to the front. Of course the defenders then have their part to play, but so does the rest of the team. We should also be capable of retaining possession rather than passing it around the back before launching it aimlessly over the top, only to surrender possession. The defence is rightly taking criticism, but our defensive problems are evident all over the park. Ultimately, we’re a poorly coached team.

I get that you disagree with my views on Alfred, but have some perspective. If we persist with him and things continue to regress, the consequences will extend well beyond him losing his job.

I don't see it quite as black as you but the regression in the defence is off the scale.

You’re clutching at straws here. Nobody is asking for or expecting JBA mk2, but that doesn’t mean we should accept this level of regression. We’ve gone from being one of the best teams in the league to scrabbling around for the tiniest iotas of improvement amid the general shite just to justify keeping calm and carrying on. I’m sure we’d all be happy with a middle ground, but we’re so far away from that it’s unreal. It’s killing the increased attendances and souring the fan base. It’s shite.

I'm not so sure, I start by saying he leaves me unconvinced but there has without doubt been a lift in our performances, 1st Half versus Killie, Hearts game and last night. We are not far away from getting a result if we can sort out our utterly honking defence. The return of McGinn and Priestman will be big for us. That said if we lose our next two games he could be a dead man walking. Saturday is huge for him and the team.

I hope you can understand why many fans are brassed off and have run out of patience with AJ. He's a decent guy by all accounts and has moved his young family here to take up the manager's job. I get all of that, as there's a human side to this story. However, the future health of our club is at stake, and with it the careers of other employees. Can I ask you, if this run continues, how long would you wait before taking action? Would you give him the season for example?

Ffs , somebody is potentially going lose their job and you come up with that ...original stuff.