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They also have to consider the alternative. Imagine Jake Hastie had stayed with us and taken on board the coaching turning him into a better player and was now a regular starter for Cardiff City on 7 grand a week, I get that it's a tough decision, and never criticise any player that chooses the money option. No idea what I would have done in the alternate universe where I was a player in that situation.

Football doesn't work like that, say he takes a wage cut, highly unlikely, gets a serious injury with us, career ruined. What then for him? Players cannot play fast and loose with a short career. Imagine Jake Hastie had stayed with us and became the pish he is. He wouldn't have had a 3 year contract on 5 grand a week to soften the blow. As it is he should be comfortably off even though his career came to fuck all. Players have to live for the moment.

I wouldn't pay 400k for a cup tied Welsh. I rather look elsewhere. I'm sure there are central defenders who can pass a ball that we can pick up cheaper than that. As for Watt and JT, no need to sell in January and no indication they want to leave. If a Scottish club is interested, then the price goes up at least 50% - call it a tariff.

If Welsh had any sense he would take the wage cut come to us and for a couple of years then get his move and earn x amount of money in the championship down south. He will only benefit himself coming to us and the way we play earn 5 grand a week then now and earn 8 times that in a year or so. However we have to have a set of balls and pay the fee to get the player my big fear is we sell all these players yer Watts,Tjs and Just and don't reinvest in the squad.Bums are back on the seats and will only stay on the seats if we keep up momentum it won't cut it now going back to Dom Thompson and Tony Watt of this world. We are on the cusp of something very very special and really proper club changing forever.

The way he's playing if it continues regular starts with us he could be thinking a wee chance for Scotland squad. That could be a factor. No even a sniff of Scotland if he stays at Cmeltic

Happy to pay Celtic the £400k if they use that to pay up his contract and he can move to us as a free agent. Basically means he can play for free for 18 months. We would obviously offer him some sort of deal which is additional money he wouldnt have had should he stay at Celtic, maybe with the proviso that we dont stand in his way if a bigger club comes in for him. We shouldnt be wasting any more of the Miller money than that though. The boy is a good fit for us. But we still need be smart about our player trading. It needs to generate revenue, not the other way about.

When is your next gig there mate?

Captain 7?

I would hope there would be a way we could sign Welsh. When Liam Kelly signed from QPR he must have taken a huge drop in wages. Maybe the option is we give Welsh a big signing on fee and maybe guarantee say 5% of any transfer fee we might sell him on for. With the money we got for Miller which I know isn't all up front I would hope we were a bit more flexible in negotiating deals. As for Watt and TJ absolutely no pressure to sell as plenty time ledt in contract, in particular TJ.

I suspect any Welsh transfer to us is a no goer. The stumbling block of course is likely to be his wages. I accept that not all players are purely and solely money driven, but thats unlikely. Its likely he's on something like £10,000 a week and even if he was to drop that by 50% it would represent a huge drop. My other concern is that we hold onto Watt and especially TJ this window as their loss would impact on us both results wise and financially. Summer is a different matter. Hopefully, the club would be involved in any discussions with other clubs before deals were signed. As their contracts are with us, it would be nice to have even a nominal amount of say in the matter. Is that a lot to ask?

Welsh still has nearly 18 months left on his contract. Who is paying that out if we pay them £400k transfer fee, cause he sure as hell isnt giving that up. If its them, fair enough, if its us, that could be another £400k and a no from me. Maybe they just want him off the wage bill and the £400k transfer fee is just enough to allow them to do that. Welsh may then be happy to accept lower wages on a short term deal to get regular football, but we would still have to move him on to get our money back. Quite a complex situation.....

And wouldn’t it be good if we were the ones selling him. Seems like a good deal to me. We either have a quality player on the books or we make a few quid selling him on after getting the benefit of his services for the rest of this season. I’m thinking it would be making a few quid

We're not going to pay 400K for Welsh he'll head down South or to Hearts/Hibs in the summer if I was to guess.

Well there's 2 done from that list hopefully the big man is ready to go straight in given he was in the stand Saturday I'd assume he's probably had a few sessions with the team and done some fitness work himself in the off season to keep himself fit. We've let 2 CBs go out so I'd expect us to replace 1 even if that's just Welsh coming back to make that pool back up to 4, for me SOD is a RB he can play CB but I wouldn't be advocating him starting there. If you look across the squad we have near enough 2 players per position which is what we need to be able to compete and i suspect what Jens wants as that drives competition.

I’m reading that Celtic looking for $400k for Welsh. If he can accept lower wage at Motherwell, short term, We could get him and sell him on for more than that.

I like the announcement. Our first signing of January suggests more to come. The chat about the analytics also fills me with hope. They have seen something in this guy so hopefully he will hit the ground running. I take it it will be a few weeks till we see him anyway as the Swedish season finished months ago. Anyone know if he had been doing a pre-season with a team?

Yes I believe the rule is 6 at any given time and no more than 2 from other SPL clubs

So can we get more players on loan or we used up all our chances?Like I know you are only allowed x amount at same time so now we don't have any does that mean we can bring in a few again?

Don’t panic folks - I hear the owners have banned him from going anywhere near the microphone when the band’s setting up.

And Celtic. 😁

Plus a guy that tries to be a comedian frequents in there 🤪🤪

At half time i went down near the pitch-side in the POD and there seemed to be quite a lot of frost on various sections. It was definitely the worst it's been for a while.

I’m just getting the hang of then so it must be time to sell them

And they were just getting the hang of Maswanhise and Stamatolopoulos as well! 😆😆😆

No loan players at all now.