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Could listen to him all day ( not a sentence anyone has ever used about me! đ€Șđ€Ș) Very interesting what he said about Halliday and how he has been great helping Priestman and Faddy
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Its not the law, or the wording of it. More the VAR intervention. As i said - for VAR to recommend a red it has to be clear and obvious. Is there enough evidence there to conclude longelo didnt simply make a mess of that? May have to agree to disagree, but not for me. And the fact the VAR check took as long as it did speaks volumes. For the record, if beaton had given a red straight away, i also wouldn't expect VAR to intervene.
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Yes, it's amazing how some laws of the game seem to have fallen into abeyance without anyone being told about it đ. I see foul shies (apologies, age) regularly nowadays at our matches. Also, the authorities have allowed all these stramashes (God bless Arthur Montford) at corners and free kicks to proliferate to the point where it's almost impossible for a referee to spot all the infringements in the box at dead balls. All supporters of clubs outwith the OF is that the refs apply the laws fairly. We saw several examples of persistent fouls against us at Celtic Park on Saturday go unpunished, some of which should have resulted in a sending off, but didn't. It's interesting to note that some Celtic players do seem to be sent off in European games but rarely in Scotland, like Mr Maeda, IIRC. I have to say that, if the roles had been reversed with Longelo and Maeda, I doubt if we would have been given a penalty and a Celtic player sent off into the bargain at Celtic Park. Similarly, had Fadinger fouled Fernandez in the last minute of our match at Ibrox in December, would that appeal have been so airily and quickly waved away by the match referee? That's the reality of the game in Scotland, and has been for more years than I care to remember.
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But if you look at the whole incident there is a tiny push on Ward aswell as the corner comes in if Beaton had been positioned properly christ he might have gave that as a foul but VAR didnt think it was enough to look at.Its so random week to week thats what puts me on tilt. Ward doesnt help the case comes out he misses the ball completely lands near enough outside the six yard box leaving an open goal if Ward had stayed on his line or not came as far out good chance it would have been looked at differently on the Red Card. No way Celtic would have won that game we were right in it until the Red Card.
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Agree 100%. Its not always obvious at games but look at pictures post match and the amount of shirt pulling that goes on. Its either a foul or it isn't. If it is clamp down on it. Same with foul throws. If they aren't going to be given then make them legal.
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Itâs not necessarily the rules in Scotland that are the problem. Itâs the misapplication or inconsistent application of them by the useless, untouchable twats employed by the SFA.
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I wish they would also go back to calling shirt pulling as a foul. At the stage now where itâs, âwell that wasnât enough to give a penaltyâ so apparently thereâs varying degrees of shirt pulling that are allowed that the referee or VAR officials have to make a judgement call on. BULLSHIT!! Pulling another players shirt is 100% a foul but the powers that be have decided to let some of that slide. Start calling it and they will stop. Another thing they let slide now is players blocking opposition run about 15 to 20 yards from the ball. Clear as day in the fifa rules, that is obstruction cause itâs not within playing distance of the ball. Iâve heard commentators say âwell, heâs entitled to go anywhere on the field he wantsâ, well, no he isnât and the obstruction rule covers that. FIFA's obstruction rule, officially known as " Impeding the Progress of an Opponent" (Law 12), prohibits moving into an opponent's path to block, slow down, or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance. It is deemed a foul if a player is not actively playing the ball. Instagram
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Only in the UK it seems. I was reading an article in The Guardian earlier in the week (because that's how I roll) that was pointing out how a number of the English teams became unstuck in Europe because: 1. They relied too much on scoring goals from the chaos at set pieces 2. European refs were penalising their fouling in the box at those set pieces I'd love to see our refs clamp down on it too.
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Enjoyed that.
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I'm starting to think he might know what he's talking about.
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Its the contesting the ball part that is the problem. Players jostling and wrestling for the ball happens at every corner/free kick and is generally unpunished by referees until the ball comes in the vicinity of the players contesting. At that point the players know they risk giving away a penalty which in this case you admit was rightly given. If Longelo and Maeda have equal chance of getting their heads on the ball it probably isnt a red card, but Maeda rolls Longelo and gets in front of him, at that point Longelo just has to let go as there is no way he is getting to it. He doesnt, prevents a clear goalscoring opportunity and given that he wasnt trying to get to the ball, just stop Maeda, its a red. You cant change the wording of the laws of the game to suit our purposes.
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claretband started following Motherwell V Hibs 21/03/2026
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A really uplifting interview. Jens never disappoints. Please be here next season, and lets kick on from here.đ€
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I was one of said posters, and taken nothing personally đ Defending a corner is entirely different to defending, say, a player through on goal though. If you are defending a corner man for man, I am not sure how you can without knowing where your opponent is... Longelo is looking at the ball to begin, maeda makes the run at which point longelo, turns to face him, ends up in a knot and fouls him. No issue with the VAR intervention for a penalty. Its the VAR intervention for a red and how it can be "clearly and obviously" deemed as anything other than "hes tried to defend the corner and made a mess of it".
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Their new brilliant goalie didn't look too clever at that.
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Watching it back Ward was absolutely howling for that corner that resulted in the penalty he was wasn't even close to whatever he was trying to do. And that third goal we lost was a total shocker one of the poorest we have let in this season.
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Maeda has immunity. Game after game its foul, foul, foul, foul and action is rarely taken.
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that was a brilliant insight into the team, season and club in general. I thoroughly enjoyed that. He never fails to impress me. for a guy to be able to speak in this way and come over so clearly when English isnât his first language is utterly incredible. and Jens was quite good too (joke)
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Fantastic interview. Ferry comes across as a total fanboy, but I actually quite like that. The insight into Jens mind and thought processes is incredible. He really is a special guy. (Psychological safety!) The more I hear him speak though, the more I feel he see's us a project he can mould in his own image. He clearly loves it here, and I think it will take more than just money to prise him away. It will require the right club, with the right ethos that he views as a compatible match for him and his aspirations. (I am aware there are likely to be a few of them around and at some point one of them will come for him).
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Thought I would share this here
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Ive seen a number of posters referring to the double jeopardy rule, so this isnt directed at you, but...... It only applies if the defender has made a genuine attempt to play the ball. Longelo makes no attempt to play the ball, so the double jeopardy rule does not apply here.
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It's a simple enough rule in theory, unfortunately it comes down to making a judgement call about a player's intent which refs are never going to get right every time. In this case, Longelo wasn't even facing the ball half the time it was in the air from the corner, and by the time he was facing it there was no way he could play it as there was someone else in the way. So I guess that's why they decided he wasn't making a genuine attempt to do so.
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I got around to watching the game again. I think Chamberlains crunch on Just was a booking although I have seen reds given. I donât think it was intentional and it wasnât as bad as Gogic on Slattery which also resulted in a booking so fair enough. Maeda should have got at least a booking for the arm to face on said. The boot in the baws afterwards definitely merited that in its own right. I think JTs penalty claim is a penaltyâŠ. Itâs a push in the back and if JT stumbled and goes to ground like a normal human being I think itâs givenâŠ.. unfortunately he does what appears to be a star jump and makes the whole thing look ridiculous and I can understand why theyâve not given it. the penalty was unfortunately a penalty. Iâd have been screaming for that if it was at our end. The double jeopardy stuff is beyond me though and beyond the referees as wellâŠ. God knows what the bar is with that.
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Not sure if any of you watched that eye bleeder yesterday St Mirren v Rangers (honestly one of the worst games Iâve seen in years) but Allan Campbell played most of the match and that boy has went so far back itâs criminal. By the second half when he collected the ball he was getting booed by his own fans (no surprise the booing and St Mirren, they are excellent booers) I felt for the boy, heâs certainly no where near the player we had. Seems to have lost every shred of confidence he had.