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I'll throw my two cents into this debate as she who shall not be named ruined it the last time this surfaced. A year ago I wrote a presentation as I thought we had reached our Rubicon with respect to FP. It was written with Lennon's prospective transfer in mind as we were due to receive a second once in a generation fee for a player four years after the last one. With the success we've had this season we could be facing a high seven to low eight figure cumulative total this summer which again gives us options. I think it's worth pointing out that while the McLean adds to the quirk of FP, since it was completed the second tier has earned us approximately £10-12m in extra revenue over a single tier stand. I suspect that extra income has played a major part in our 40+ top tier status and often kept the wolf from the door. For example, St Mirren will never sell more than 2,000 seats to away support in their 8k stadium. We will have sold 20k extra away seats than them over a season which is approximately £400k in extra revenue. I’m should add, I'm very much a proponent of a new stadium and studied architecture at university, I’m just convinced in the modern game you need to have multiple ancillary income streams beyond hosting 25 or so games a season. However I flag some of the issues I've seen brought up on this thread already: It's human nature to be resistant to change, I can't fault anyone for nostalgia being a factor for them. We can't ignore FP is limited in what we can do or achieve. If we strive to be the best we can be on the pitch that should extend to what surrounds the pitch. Training Facility - We were looking at one in Muirhouse, now there's talk of Watling Street. A building with changing, physio, conditioning, gym, rehab, dining room and kitchen and possibly an integrated grandstand. If moving to a new stadium the first thing to consider would be a campus where all facilities are centrally located. The main stand could incorporate all of these functions to avoid duplication with training pitches around the stadium footprint (think Man City). Design - When there's so much to admire off the park in recruitment, transfers, etc. why would anyone assume the decision makers would would drop the ball and not take heed and avoid the traits of all the poor stadiums constructed in the past 25 years. You'd think they'd look to Tynecastle as a very good basis for ideas. Transport - Best not to use 2026 transport links to a pretty much empty site to what may evolve. Not many bus companies that wouldn't spot an opportunity and then not act on it. Income - Vast improvement on hospitality offering and revenues. Ability to hold all events PotY etc. in house, ramp up outside/midweek events. Look for business' that may want to be tenants, have facilities available for public 7am to 11pm such as cafe/restaurant/etc. Cost - Safe to say since covid base materials have jumped as has labour, what we may have faced years ago have increased at a rate of knots. However there are ways and means to address it. If we pursue a new stadium we would have a sizable down payment. We could easily sell the McLean twice over to the OF and that stand perfectly illustrates the precedent of maximising and exploiting the OF support. Look to grow home support from current 7k (still a bit mad to type that) to 9k and continue to allow away support a minimum of 5k (to maintain current away revenues) moves us into a 14k capacity stadium territory. If you assume every 1,000 away capacity we add we make at least £100k per season (1000 seat x three OF games x £33), expand that to 2,500 seats and it's 250k per year extra over current revenues. Over 20 years that generates an extra £5m + inflation at the conservative end of the projections over and above what we earn now. Get top six in half those seasons, plus Hearts and Falkirk have shown this season could easily bring in excess of the McLean 4,800 capacity if it was possible. I appreciate a lot of the above is back of fag packet sums but I'm happy to address any omissions, errors or oversights if highlighted. Future Stadium - Presentation

Hope you enjoyed the walk!

Don't forget the Walking Football leagues.

Get fit for it, FP is bigger than it looks and drags the legs from you. Try for the home team if you can, our away facilities are terrible and the dressing room has 2 broken radiators you can't switch off for the lulz, Standard is fat fucks to decent amateur whenever I've been involved (maybe 8/9 times) Cost depends if it's an auction style? Rolling sub is your best bet as not many last 90 minutes, I would reckon you'd get a game at CH for less than up front, ball park 100 - your max

Yup, win on Saturday keeps us in mix .that's all we can do and see what happens

Bottom line is we can only just keep doing what we are doing and win. Can’t really rely on anyone to do us a turn.

Correct it wont change , just a pipe dream. I don't do quirky 😆I prefer symmetrical stadiums that don't look like they have a different style stand for each day of the week, like Fir Park and Pittodrie.

At least it would be more palatable

Best just going for a walk and check the score when its over! Much less stressful! 😆😆😆

A game lasts 90 mins mate, or in the case of Celtic, 99 or so.....

Maybe adopting MJC attitude has helped! 🤣 1-1

Ah well, getting hee haw help from dons tonight

I see the Daily Record have run out of people saying "JBA is going to Celtic" and are now running with Ross McCormack saying JBA will snub Celtic and go to the EPL.

You think the players let him win?

I've said it before, but it bears repeating. It's ridiculous that after selling MIller, we improved the quality of our midfield. It's the best combination I have ever seen at Fir Park. Imagine Gary McAllister lining up beside Just, Watt and Fadinger.

Impressive that we've managed to unearth the quality that we have this season. Agree that Just is different calibre and no doubt all the mid to attack benefit from having him around. If we play our cards right we may retain likes of Fadinger, Watt, Priestman, Said, RCC and maybe Slattery v's likes of Welsh, TW and Just are all destined for far bigger clubs and good luck to them. I do wonder how much will boil down to whether Jens stays, as suspect many players would follow him. If he is willing to stick around suspect most of the players would give it another season, with the exception of TW who Im not convinced we want to keep forever ( I agree with other comments about him showing signs he cares more about himself than the team) For now at least we can continue to stay in dreamland and see how the remainder of the season plays out.

I think he is the one player in the team we would struggle to replace. On top of being one of the best technical players in the team his work rate is ridiculous. Top player.

I'm in my 50th year and this season will probably be my last playing football, so I'd like to go out on a high. I'm hoping that there will be another one of these fans games on at the end of the season, so that I have an excuse to treat myself for my birthday, travel up to Scotland, kick a ball about and have a few beers after. Few things to get the ball rolling: If anyone here has participated in past events, please share your experiences (behind the scenes and on the pitch). What is the standard like or is it all mixed abilities / fitness? Roughly how much could a place in the team cost (got to factor hotel and flights into my budget).

Looks like he would still do a job at centre half! 😆😆😆

Problem is we dont have limitless money, so the McLean wont be going anywhere unless we move altogether. Far more pressing issues. The McLean isnt without its problems, but I quite like the quirky nature of it. Gives the ground a distinctive look. Also allows us to milk the ugly sisters without having to share your matchday experience with them! 😉

For me Its an eyesore and completely out of sync with the rest of the ground. Same as Pittodrie's beach end. If we are going to develop the ground lets make it look like a decent venue.

Whats wrong with the McLean stand, thats probably the best of the 4 ?

Good update from Kyrk Macmillan. If I had free reign and limitless money to upgrade Fir Park, I'd fill in the corners , remove the top tier of that South Stand Monstrosity, New Main Stand and new roof on the East Stand. The filled corners could compensate for the loss of the top tier of the South Stand

3 games in a row