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That Old Chestnut - Do We Move Or Do We Stay
0Neils40yarder replied to Kmcalpin's topic in Club Chat
Aye probably said it better than I could -
The constraints of the current Fir Park site are plain to see. But with the principle of development for a football stadium already established there, nobody will ever convince me there isn’t a viable proposal that responds to those constraints in a creative yet pragmatic way. Whether that’s a complete demolition and redevelopment or a phased approach of continually replacing and upgrading the stadium bit by bit, I’d take either of those over relocating to an identikit plastic shithole on a soulless brownfield site on the edge of town. Every realistic option at Fir Park has to be exhausted, and sensible compromises made where necessary, before we consider something as drastic as leaving our home for Ravenscraig.
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That Old Chestnut - Do We Move Or Do We Stay
Goggles & Flippers replied to Kmcalpin's topic in Club Chat
Everyone is funnelled into a 4m wide gate to leave. Theres no scope for any ancillary sales or expansion. The space under us can’t be used. It is limited for disabled access and its roof will need replaced soon. Due to the curve of Knowetop Avenue it cuts the corner off the Cooper (it’s stepped in) the. If massive wall has to be maintained, we looked to demolish it 15 years ago and told no. WS looking at funding a lift. The Cooper bar is a particularly uninspiring space. The POD has a very narrow footprint, the width of the centenary interrupted by columns define it. Upstairs rooms such as the 91 suite can effectively fit 12 chairs abreast with an access corridor down the middle. boardroom Even smaller. above the sponsors lounge is now taken over by the media team I understand. None of these facilities are enough or fitting for a club looking to close its operational funding gap. -
Come in no.4.........yer times up!! 🤣
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That Old Chestnut - Do We Move Or Do We Stay
0Neils40yarder replied to Kmcalpin's topic in Club Chat
The school playground doesn't stop the east stand from functioning Not sure what the cooper issue is? And as for the main stand, I dont think it needs to run full length for it to allow us to rebuild it -
The tag is the best ever signing though...to flip him for ridiculous money in a calendar year must be up there regardless of what he actually achieved on the pitch
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numpty started following Our Greatest ever signing
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I don't have any better suggestions, but regardless of his ability and financial value, I'm not sure anyone who only played for one season in which we ultimately didn't really come close to winning anything could really justify the "best ever" tag.
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Davie Cooper is the most obvious one. Apart from him Tommy Coyne has got to be up there with our best. He was in his 30s when he signed and went on to be one of our top players of the 90s. I’d also give a shout to Michael Higdon. He was that annoying journeyman who always seemed to pop up with a goal against us for Falkirk or St.Mirren but when he came here he became a proper No.9 and we got the best out of him.
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Where did the chat of Charles-Cook being injured come from? Haven't heard anything about that...
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Bobby Graham. EDIT: to elaborate, he was a strong performer in an good Liverpool side that included Ian St John, Roger Hunt and later Keegan and Toshack. He almost certainly only signed for us beause Ian St John was the manger, and as well as being an excellent player himself, he struck up a great partnership with Willie Pettigrew. He spoiled me as a young fan, as I thought every striker that played for Motherwell would be as good as those 2.
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That Old Chestnut - Do We Move Or Do We Stay
Goggles & Flippers replied to Kmcalpin's topic in Club Chat
A school playground, a street that cuts off the coroner of the Cooper and a couple of houses that ensure the Main stand can never stretch the full length of the pitch while sitting on a residential street for me shows no amount of money can remedy the limitations of FP. -
Its often said that pound-for-pound, Davie Cooper is our best ever signing, in how he helped build the reputation of the club, its playing style and how he participated in getting us the win in 1991. Does Justs signing eclipse that? Buying him for a nominal fee and punting him 12months later for lots of millions? Any other suggestions?
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If there are genuinely viable options to ugrade Fir Park to a modern and sustainable stadium, that will always be my first choice. Sadly, I'm not convinced there is a viable option, so I'm on board with a new build.
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I’ve still to buy it but I did sign up for account. holding out to see if Motherwell TV come thru at the last moment, otherwise I’ll fork out for it.
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Motherwell vs Havnar Bóltfelag (23/7) Discussion
0Neils40yarder replied to David's topic in Club Chat
Cheers...bought it on your say-so🤣 -
That Old Chestnut - Do We Move Or Do We Stay
0Neils40yarder replied to Kmcalpin's topic in Club Chat
What i am probably saying is that if we are going to spend a monumental amount (30 or 40million) on a new build, then Id prefer to spend a similar amount properly renovating the stadium we've played at for decades and generations. Maybe im a dinosaur, but I genuinely think that we can make Fir Park work for us if we invest in it properly -
Hallelujah!!!!!!!!.....finally
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There’s no reasonable justification for why they came down on Watt for basically saying what everyone else could see. The SFA and SPFL are incompetent and more or less at the behest of one particular club so any dissenting voices need to be silenced.
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That Old Chestnut - Do We Move Or Do We Stay
Goggles & Flippers replied to Kmcalpin's topic in Club Chat
Is there any amount of money we could have in the bank and your be OK with a switch or is FP only regardless or anything else? -
There's really no reason for the authorities' vindictive behaviour towards Watt (and by extension, our club) but it would be good to hear their feeble justifications.
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Googled it. AI Overview +2 Yes, you can watch Solidsport streams in Spain, as it is a European open sports streaming platform accessible globally without country-level geo-blocking on the main site, and it even officially partners with events held in Spain like the Donosti Cup. [1, 2, 3]
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Motherwell vs Havnar Bóltfelag (23/7) Discussion
0Neils40yarder replied to David's topic in Club Chat
Does that mean I can watch it in Spain or not? -
Well done, you finally got a laugh out of me.
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That Old Chestnut - Do We Move Or Do We Stay
0Neils40yarder replied to Kmcalpin's topic in Club Chat
The differences for me between Tynie and that effort at Paisley are simply; All new builds in scotland have gone in a very similar direction and I cant think of one that I enjoy going to, because of the atmosphere and the lack of facilties. And...the fact Hearts have managed to completely revamp Tynie on a small footprint into the best stadium in the league, just gives more ammunition to stay put for me. I understand the viewpoint that you've got and the considerations you've placed into fan experience at any proposed new build but I dont see it happening. For me, we build a new main stand, utilising the footprint we have, encompassing hospitality, a proper restaurant and public house, even if that means we need to scale down the number of seats available to the paying public...not as drastic as what Queens Park done but its a thought none-the-less. We then move onto the next stand, in much the same way we would need to continually upgrade and maintain any new build -
That Old Chestnut - Do We Move Or Do We Stay
Goggles & Flippers replied to Kmcalpin's topic in Club Chat
I think everyone is Scottish football is fearful of a SMiSA clone. The beauty is it’s there for everyone to see and point to it being exactly what we’re not looking for. We also have Tynecastle and can use that too to highlight some stuff you’d like to emulate, steep pitch being the major one. I think highlighting St Mirren but overlooking Hearts is exactly the point I made in the previous post. Everyone has been very complimentary on our direction of travel, do we seriously think there’s a chance of the former over the latter? For what it’s worth Flow was very mindful when in post and was enamoured by Aalesund’s ground. A masterplan was commissioned during his tenure and it came back with a Ravenscraig oval bowl. That is the best I could describe it when I got a five second glimpse.