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Not sure we are leaping to defense of our player. Most well fans were not pleased With Slattery I think we are all up in arms regarding the OTT response from authorities. Or should I say inconsistent response. there should be a boatload of these retroactive punishments for simulation. I’d expect to see it every week.
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Probably less likely now he's essentially a marked man in Scotland. The wording of Rule 77 is vague enough and broad enough for the SFA to trigger his suspended 2 game ban any time he steps out of line, whether that be a tackle, mouthing off or falling on his arse.
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Algarve? Is that a new pub in Hamilton? 😉
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I am finding this one a little difficult to stomach I have to admit. Yes, Slattery made a fool of himself and yes it took a little bit of a shine off of what was otherwise the perfect performance. This kind of behaviour needs stamped out of football and in a world where all things are equal the punishment probably fits the crime but all things are not equal and the organisation doing the finger wagging in Slattery''s direction oversee a tiny shitty world where they are more than happy to turn a blind eye to some of the bigger vagueries of Scottish Football. We have not heard a single word of condemnation from the SFA on the scenes at Ibrox a few weeks ago. The bigotry, the sectarian singing that could be heard both on radio and TV. The pitch invasions, the aggression, the on field violence. No word, no punishment, no finger wagging. This is an organisation that oversees one of the most toxic environments in World football and is happy to continue doing so because of the money it generates. Hatred sells! It sticks in my throat when that same organisation decides to randomly take the moral high ground on one single isolated incident when similar incidents are happening every single weekend in every single game in the country. The decision making is haphazard, incoherent and hugely subjective. Ultimately we have to suck it up because Slattery was in the wrong and brought this trouble upon himself and the club but I hate being lectured to, (with the verbose language they hide behind), by an organisation that has very little interest in actually creating the level playing field that would actually make the game in Scotland one we could all buy into.
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But none of them were even cited; so asking if we would we have complained is irrelevant; if they had been the complaints probably wouldn't be as loud or happening at all. Trying to use the example of something similar that didn't happen to justify something that did just doesn't work.
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This is genuinely ridiculous. Slattery has been essentially cited for inappropriate behaviour under R77 rather than R201. If he had been cited under R201 he would have got a maximum 2 game ban. He now appears to be getting a 2+2 game ban as nobody appears to have been cited under this rule for this reason. Despite this they haven’t rescinded the yellow card given to the St Mirren player because of a lack of evidence of no contact. This smacks of the SFA just being desperate to get Slattery no matter what. For me there isn’t clear cut evidence to suggest that there wasn’t contact (this was accepted by the SFA) so should never have progressed this far. Manipulation of situations happens literally all the time in every league in the world. You might not like what Slattery did from a moral perspective but legally the SFA have tied themselves in knots here. We should start a thread highlighting every potential simulation situation and whether this has been progressed to a 4 game ban. I think it’s highly unlikely any other club will be treated in this in the next 5 years but the thread would run to numerous pages of incidents that would be very similar. Genuinely baffling. Brilliant that the club have called it out.
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Nah....no way would Mrs grizzly put up with that 🤣🤣
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He was cited fairly quickly enough according to MFC. That it took so long for a panel to be convened to assess his guilt and punishment is a farce. He then got a suspension which the Club could have anticipated. Especially as they went public in condemning his behaviour, perhaps hoping to avoid what has now happened. Same ban as others who got cited for an act of cheating missed by the officials. I agree the suspended two games has come from nowhere. That part I think is nonsensical. But not the two match ban. Same as Cantwell and Brown should have received. Would we have complained had that pair been banned? Pretty sure if I could be bothered checking back, most on here (including me....and you?) were calling for them to be hammered. Scott Sinclair as another example I think? Amazing how Slattery has gone from cheat to victim though. I thought that approach was reserved for a certain other team. And if we want to be honest about it, Slattery has form. Went down clutching his face right in front of the POD not that long ago. Referee wasn't fooled that time although I admit I was until TV proved me wrong. This time his luck ran out. Hopefully he has learned his lesson as we need him on the pitch. Our referees, Var and authorities are far from competent and certainly seem exempt from accountability and demotion. That is the aspect that needs sorting. But this chain of events started because Slattery let himself, the fans and the Club down. Now we will all pay the penalty. By the way, I like Slattery and hope he signs on for next season.
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Slattery was apparently found guilty by the Compliance Officer some weeks ago. A panel, comprising God knows who, was then convened and met today. It was these unknown individuals who settled on a 4 game suspension. Where is the transparency and accountability in that?
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Great defending by Brodie Spencer to prevent a certain Italian goal.
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I think Oscar deserves a start, but Nicholson is probably more like Slattery from a style/creativity point of view.
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Exactly this. Diving to gain a penalty is cheating and gains an advantage for your team. I dont see the difference, but it happens all the time (including by our players).
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If its not being made up on the hoof, Id love to see the regulations outlining the wording of the offence and what the penalty should be. As others have said. We have VAR now. The red card should never have been given and if they send the ref to the monitor, Slattery gets a yellow. The fact they f#cked up and we have a player with 2+2 game suspension is ridiculous. The club dealt with Slattery internally, so this just feels pretty harsh.
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this, but we should play with a goalie too
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Im going to be a bit controversial here. You see players going down very easily every week in every league and every country and it's my pet hate (outside of VAR) Issuing yellow cards doesn't seem to be stamping it out either so maybe we need more of this to finally hammer home the message that if youre caught doing it either during a match or after a review then youre going to get hammered. As long as it is done consistently and across the board of course but I won't hold my breath with these clowns in charge who would rather eat their first born than upset the OF.
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A good point made by Ropy on P & B and I quote " I look forward to other players being suspended for the officials getting it wrong. "
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Hopefully, Slattery's ban pisses our guys off like the game at Pittodrie did.
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Kemar Roofe banned retrospectively for violent conduct in 2021. Two games. Appeal failed. Originally given a yellow but cited and banned for two league games. Slattery did wrong and Motherwell's Statement is not accurate re precedent. Had Cantwell been cited and banned for feigning injury to get Slattery sent off we would all have been delighted. Same for Scott Brown and Kipre. The fact they were not cited highlights the inconsistency and the feeling that not all Clubs are treated equally. But that does not make the Slattery outcome wrong. Just want to see the same rule applied going forward as I detest cheating. I hope our Board will be all over any similar incident if treated differently.
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Shhhh, before Fadinger gets a lifetime ban for diving.
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claretband started following Slattery
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We're back to not being able to hold more than one opinion at a time here. Slattery was wrong. The Ref and Referee's assistant were both wrong to send off King. VAR was wrong to not review the red card (like they had already done for Gogic) The SFA was wrong for waiting 4 weeks and choosing to re-referee 3 different individuals' decisions. Do you think they'll go back now and give us our penalty at Ibrox or give Oxlade-Chamberlain a red? If a player dives to get a penalty, will they now be subject to a 4 week suspension? If not, why not? That has a direct impact games. What about feigning head injuries to waste time with stoppages?
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First of all what Slattery did wasn’t too clever, let’s be honest. But as others have said, if the referee and/or VAR were in any way competent then he’d have had a yellow card, because they weren’t he ends up with a 2 game ban, absolutely bizarre. Ridiculously inconsistent and you can bet your bottom dollar we’ll be waiting a long time (if ever) before an old firm player gets a retrospective ban like this at the business end of the season.
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Enjoying my first drink in Algarve and saw this!!. Yes he was a numpty but if that was an old firm player? If they are consistent now no worries but I doubt it