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  1. 23 points
    I'm not so sure it's Jake Hastie getting to the end of his contract and accepting a life changing offer from a bigger Club that continues to upset a minority. Or his outing as a fan of that Club or even celebrating joining them. I suspect it's the fact that the Club in question is Rangers that is the real issue. Otherwise why were these same folk not having a go at Darren Randolph, Michael Higdon, John Sutton, Mark Gillespie, (Chris Long?) and, going further back, Paul Lambert and Rab McKinnon? When they walked out we received £350/400k less than we got for Hastie. In other words, nothing. There are others. And , if youth is a factor, how come McKinstry is hailed as a shining example of how good our youth development is when he elects to move to a bigger Club for £225k rather than staying with us to develop his footballing career? Also, how come we celebrate our goalkeeper joining "his club"? I suspect the answer is that not one of the players I listed left us to join either Rangers or Celtic. Paul Slane anyone? Footballers of all ages have decisions to make throughout their career. Some will get it right, some less so. Credit to Hastie for having the ambition and belief to give Rangers a go at such a young age. Even more credit for having the desire to come back to us on Loan when he had other, less demanding options north and south of the border. And credit to our Management team for bringing him back despite the objections of a few fans and the supposed upset caused by the manner of his original departure. Robinson clearly thinks Hastie can help us and I for one look forward to seeing him prove the doubters wrong.
  2. 8 points
    Bold of you to assume there's not people on here who hate Rangers more than they like their families.
  3. 7 points
    For me he’s a Motherwell player now and who knows may sign permanently at some stage if things go well. The past is the past and I can pretty much guarantee we will get better performances out of him if we support rather than abuse him. When we get back as supporters I will be cheering him on exactly the same as any other player.
  4. 7 points
    Some people simply can't see through their own brand of bigotry to the reality, and the reality is we played the OF a total of 5 times last season, 2 of the 5 against Rangers, and lost them all. All of them without Hastie who will this time be available to play against Celtic. As you say, any points against the OF at any time are a bonus not an expectation. And that applies for the entire league. Calling that absolute reality a 'mentality' is absolutely mental. The OF haven't been winning the league for almost 4 decades due to a mentality among the opposition. They have been doing it because of a massive financial advantage that's as great at this time as it has ever been. Last season alone they spent over £20 million between them in the transfer market. The rest of the league combined spent a total of around 500K, Motherwell spent nothing, effectively operating in the freebie charity shop market along with everybody else compared to the OF shopping at M&S. And that's brutal reality, not a mentality problem. If the management team who just secured a 3rd place finish with only the 8th largest budget in the league think Hastie is good business then so do I. They're the experts not merely pundits on an internet forum. Hastie is of a quality we couldn't afford outside a deal like this. The fact he can't play against Rangers is irrelevant to the 3rd place at best finish everyone outside the OF is aiming for.
  5. 5 points
    £4million transfer fee to sign for Newcastle. Season-long loan back to us. Newcastle takeover goes through, no way into the first-team for DT. Buy-back clause of £2million. DT holds record of being highest transfer fee received by the club as well as highest transfer fee paid by the club, with a cool £2million left in the bank to build the Alan Campbell Training Academy. Or at least that's what my mate's Saudi burd tells me.
  6. 4 points
    So by that token did David Turnbull show a lack of ambition by choosing Celtic over Norwich? After all Celtic play in the same League as Motherwell and Turnbull was not guaranteed a start every week. A stepping stone to greater things was mentioned as a strong reason for choosing Celtic. More likelihood of development and a chance to learn from better players. I have a feeling he opted for Celtic to be closer to home more than anything else. But that’s only a thought and not based on anything definite. I’m not saying Hastie has shown anything like the consistency or talent of Turnbull, but by moving to Rangers he immediately increased his chances of winning silverware, increased his chances of playing against top European sides, increased his chances of a call up to the full Scotland side, got to work with a coaching team possessing a wealth of International and European experience , got to train and play with top International players, and got a hefty wage rise as well. Just like the situation Turnbull would have benefited from. It has not yet worked out as well as Jake had hoped but all is not lost. He may well be a better player than when he left us, both in a football sense and mentally. Time will tell. If he does well for us, who is to say he will not get another look in at Ibrox? Whatever, I’m sure that given his time over again, he would make the same decision. Commitment wise he was with us for 11 years, despite approaches from other Clubs during that time. Just like Turnbull and Jamie Semple. Unlike a good few other youngsters who opted to leave ....Leeds and Rangers being two beneficiaries. And Hastie chose to return to us despite interest from elsewhere. As for there being the same anger if he had gone to a Hearts or Aberdeen, I don’t recall there being such bitterness or talk of lack of ambition when Curtis Main departed for Aberdeen. And it could be argued Main contributed more in his time with us than Hastie did. And that he owed us for rescuing his career. Players get to the end of their Contracts and sometimes better offers come along from elsewhere. Players have decisions to make and we have to respect that the decision is theirs’ to make. Injury and the denial of the opportunity of progression and security might only be one game away. And if Rangers want to Loan us Greg Docherty and Jamie Murphy as well.......
  7. 3 points
    If it's been stated it's a private bounce game then why not respect that? They've stated they'll post information and images/footage if they can thereafter. As tempting as it might be, I can't imagine it would do much for the cause of getting grounds open as early as possible if a few hundred people all take the same approach and pitch up at friendlies trying to sneak a peak at the game.
  8. 3 points
    Hello, We're hoping to put out some details soon. For season ticket holders, it will be on the same platform as the international streams. We'll send out codes and instructions of how to watch the games in the next week or so. Will hopefully have answers on other points ASAP.
  9. 3 points
    This is getting really boring now.....
  10. 3 points
    Turnbull is actually a good example. His "big move" to Celtic was derailed due to a knee issue. Now, what would have happened if that knee issue was more serious? In fact, and I really hope this isn't the case, imagine Turnbull returns this season only to break down for whatever reason, and he never hits the heights expected of him? Do you think Celtic will still want him? Not a chance. That life-changing money is gone in a flash. Let's take it even further. His knee continues giving him grief and he never gets back into a groove for us, and eventually drops out of our team. When the time comes and he's quietly released, do you think the fans who bemoan a player leaving too early will give a toss? Of course not. We're more concerned with the next Turnbull, or the new striker we've signed. Turnbull will just be another ex-player who is a "what if?" discussed in pre-match pub chit chat. Players "owe" the club and the fans nothing. It's only ever the good players that are called on for loyalty and "giving back," isn't it? If he was shit we wouldn't be bothered. Hastie was right to take the stupid deal Rangers offered him. He's most likely never going to be better than he was during that purple patch he had for us, so he's right to cash in on it. He could easily go out against Ross County for us and go down with a career-altering injury. You take the money when it's available. Strike while the iron is hot, so to speak.
  11. 3 points
  12. 3 points
    Hastie still outscored Hylton and Seedorf last season in league goals despite only making 10 appearances.
  13. 3 points
    Anyone who says Hastie isnt better than what we already have needs have a think again. He may only have had a purple patch before, but neither Hylton or Seedorf have produced anything near the quality Hastie did during that time and they had nearly a whole season to do it. Im very much on the fence with the signing. I didnt like the way he left or who he left for, but he is back now and the management clearly think he can improve the squad as they would not brought him back knowing the furore it was going to cause. Its a bold move, and the lad will need a thick skin for the first few weeks, maybe longer. But he seems to know whats coming his way and appears up for it, so good luck to him.
  14. 2 points
    Just listened to an old interview with Lang, can’t be doing with the accent, him and Grimmy should be sent to elocution lessons to perfect the Lanarkshire drawl.
  15. 2 points
    Don’t think that we have forgotten the youngsters more like they are not ready yet and so we are spending to keep our position
  16. 2 points
    Dom Thomas has joined Dunfermline from Killie. IIRC we had a sell-on, so we'll be due about £100
  17. 2 points
    Chris Long to get a 94th minute winner away to AC Milan to send us into the Europa League group stages.
  18. 2 points
    The Euro play offs are one legged affairs. So we play Israel at home and then Norway or Serbia away. That is what I mean. That was dreamed up by UEFA and we all accept it. Uefa dreamed up one legged qualifying ties for Europa qualifying and again if we got 2 or 3 away draws then bad luck but we accept it. Under normal circumstances Well fans could still travel to these away games. Suddenly deciding that means no crowds for sporting integrity is such a crock of shit. If they said because of Covid then fine but don’t give me sporting integrity from UEFA of all institutions !
  19. 2 points
    having a clear out at home today and found that very strip in a drawer under the bed LOL
  20. 2 points
    Such positivity. I would hope we have learned our lesson. I very much suspect any fee will be offset by whatever we are still owed for Kipre and / or we reduce offset against sell on clause. That plus a small cash fee will all that we can afford to offer. Absolutely no way we will be paying hundreds of thousands of £. Not a chance unless the management team are convinced they have a Lawrence shankland mk 11 and as posted above confident of selling Lang on for many multiples of transfer fee. But again I doubt any fee paid will be over £100k in hard cash.
  21. 2 points
    Personally I feel we should go nowhere near this lad! 2 transfer fees in the same summer gets me thinking back to the early John Boyle years or (shudder) the McLeish era and gives me the fear! Aye its fine paying 50 grand for a Mark O'Hara and 200 grand for a promising youngster , but its a slippery slope and next thing you know we will be forking out £150k for an Andy Roddie, £400k for a Shaun McSkimming, £250k for a John Hendry and £200k plus 2 players for an Eddie May!
  22. 2 points
    if it were to be a move to an English side, surely a 6 month loan back to us wouldn't be the worst idea with our season starting in three weeks and the English sides still to even finish this season. Otherwise Turnbull is looking at a very very long time without playing.
  23. 2 points
    Or when we are 2nd and it’s all his fault we are not top.
  24. 2 points
    Not that it makes a difference but isn't it confirmed he's a Celtic fan?
  25. 2 points
    I actually take my hat off to Hastie for coming back into the lions den so to speak He must know that it will be hard to win over the doubters and it would have been so much easier for him to go elsewhere like Hearts where he would get an easier gig. Hes said he wanted to come back here and that’s good enough for me.
  26. 2 points
    The threat didn't last long he signed an extended contract with Millwall on 29/06/2020 lol
  27. 1 point
    Based on the fact that we have a stronger squad than the one that finished 3rd last season ? Based on the fact Hearts should not be in the league. Based on the fact that other teams may not be able to add as much quality to their squads due to Covid19 impact. Not having a go but not sure the facts back up your concerns. I am only concerned because when we get our hopes up usually we come a cropper. No science behind this - just a lifetime following Motherwell FC.
  28. 1 point
    Remember the outrage on here when we allowed Dom Thomas to leave and signed Cedric Kipre (even though they played different positions and are a million stratosphere’s away in terms of footballing ability)
  29. 1 point
    Aside from his red against Hamilton then I'm not sure his focus or attitude could be questioned. Aye, he was dour faced but that's absolutely fine - he wanted to score goals and it wasn't always happening for him. I never doubted his commitment.
  30. 1 point
    He liked that tweet, And that one. Not an announcement but quite a hint
  31. 1 point
    Or it could be that we see Lang as the wide left option? Tm. Watt / Long / White Lw. Lang / Seedorf Rw. Hastie / Hylton Am. Turnbull / Polworth Long & Watt quite similar so 6'4 White is a different physical option to the others.
  32. 1 point
    I live in England these days, don't get up much apart from cup finals so twice a year :) and would definitely be keen to pay to watch a game, no matter who the opposition is.
  33. 1 point
    Aye for me the guy looks like me is in the mould of what we normally go for looking at his stats i think he could easily be a 15 plus goals a season hope we get him. I honestly think this is one of the best squads we have had for a number of years jusy oozes quality all over the park only place I worry about is the wings if the main guys get injured.
  34. 1 point
    We have been overdue a switch from quantity to quality. £200,000 seems like a lot of money in terms of a one off payment but all the duds we have signed over the past few years will have cost us way more. Also when people are throwing around transfer figures from the 90s you have to remember inflation and that the clubs turnover has increased greatly since then. In real terms even if Lang costs that much it's still less than Andy Roddie. It's easy to think that it's still the 90s when you are in the East Stand listening to Oasis and the Stone Roses but it was 20+ years ago!
  35. 1 point
    I did hope the smileys would indicate my post as a joke, unfortunately clearly not for some.
  36. 1 point
    Fee agreed for Lang according to this tweet
  37. 1 point
    Armstrong too intelligent for a lot of Sellik fans. He is always so articulate so a lot of their fans probably couldn't understand him!!
  38. 1 point
    We cannot possibly judge him on where we finish in the league. He can only be gauged on how silent he's been on any given matter, don't you know?
  39. 1 point
    Not when we're 10th in the table and it's all his fault mind
  40. 1 point
    I know how successful our youth system is but what could you possibly invest that 200k that relates to the youth academy? Genuine question btw. From my view our academy is working perfectly fine but for this season the youth academy is basically a right off as seasons won’t start back until 2021 supposedly. That money makes more purpose for investing into the first team this year and pushing on even further than last season and by doing so go further in Europe and then you could think about other things like youth etc.
  41. 1 point
    The club has guaranteed 19 home league games on season tickets. So whether we take the hit now or later, we will be losing money on every home game with no crowd.
  42. 1 point
    Its possible this will be moved to the Sun anyway because of Europe.
  43. 1 point
    If Jake Hastie plays well and scores goals this season all will be forgotten. If he doesnt then the boo's will amplify and build. He really needs to hit the ground running. I wish him well.....
  44. 1 point
    This just doesn't make sense. He had developed his career to that point and the big money did automatically follow. I'm sure he was confident enough that he could break into the first team and further develop with better players around him/training facilities etc. A confident 19yr old would not move solely for the cash and there's no reason to suggest he wasn't confident going by what he had done in the previous months. He was probably overly confident if anything rather than showing a lack of belief.
  45. 1 point
    Genuine question - how do you know that the deal that Rangers offered was the first decent deal on the table? Another one - how do you know he didn't think he was good enough to break into the Rangers team in his first season? You could argue that he went there to do exactly that and should be commended for that level of ambition.
  46. 1 point
    The other .01 would be lying.
  47. 1 point
    Moult or Kipre? Or is it someone still at FP right now? I fucking love ON40Y cryptic bingo.
  48. 1 point
    The best one I saw was made from a pair of y fronts
  49. 1 point
    The return of Moult would sort that out.
  50. 1 point
    I completely disagree, I thought he was very good, and would thrive with a fully fit Turnbull in behind him.
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