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Heard a rumour that Kettlewell told the players to make sure they lost the game today so that four absolute wankers could have an evening of bitching on an internet forum. After four games without a defeat, they might not have survived another.

If SK had been sacked we would probably be heading to the Championship by now, and the usual fuckwits would still be whinging about the new manager and how they need to be dumped. I'm glad the club seen sense, it's stability we need not a constant churn of managers every other season.

Aberdeen had five shots on target and Lennon Miller headed the first one off the line defending a corner about 55 minutes in. The second shot on target was the goal from a corner after an hour. Of the three saves he made I can think of two. The shot from outside the box which was straight at him and the shot from the right hand of the box which he saved at the near post. Neither were great saves. Add in his nonsense at the end of the game that almost gave away a goal and it was another joke performance from him.

A couple to add... Jake Hastie been released by Hartlepool Not quite a former player, but sad to hear of Chris McClure's (Stage name, Christian) passing yesterday. If I recall correctly, he was also a director at Motherwell back in the late '70's / early '80's. I can remember getting his autograph back in the day and on hearing I was a 'Well fan, signed it 'Up the 'Well'. Good guy, will be missed.

I am not 100% sure exactly what side of the fence the original pie and Bovril poster is landing on but certainly the notion that it is not possible to realise emotions of anger and frustration out with 90 mins of a football match suggests a laziness of thought and a lack of willingness to take responsibility for our own lives. There are other ways to tackle these emotions that do not involve abusing other human beings at a football match. I don't doubt that many of us live our lives under significant stress. The figures for male suicide in particular is staggering and ofcourse football is a fantastic way to escape from the stresses and strains of our daily life. However football cannot be used as an excuse for intimidating and aggressive behaviour. I have watched Motherwell fans over the years hiding behind the claret and amber flag to excuse behaviours that would not be accepted in any other walk of life. What about the players suffering with mental illness? What about the steward that has dragged him/ herself to work after a family bereavement? What about the policeman/ policewoman gripped by anxiety? What about the football manager who's life is falling apart because he/ she is spending all their time trying to keep a job that is always only potentially a few weeks from ending? Do these people stop being human beings from 3pm till 445pm on a Saturday so that the rest of us can vent our frustration? Are we really that selfish?

100% It's a chance for usually grown adult men to act in a manner they never would be allowed to outside a stadium. I think it's more a reflection on them than anything else.

Seriously ya nutter! Bevis in goals is the obvious choice, tall, will command the box, only needs to take by kicks so no dribbling and legally allowed to handle the ball. Move Kelly to midfield to show off more of his nifty foot work prowess. Job done! Who the feck needs coaching badges? Any clown can do this job.

Yes, thats certainly true. Because of his background, he does know a lot more about football in general than fans who haven't been involved in professional football. He also knows more than virtually all the fans, about the playing side of the club. However, these forums / fora are all about debate; hopefully considered reasonable discussion. Surely its not unreasonable to question the manager's decisions at times or are we going to shut that down? We cannot afford to suppress criticism simply because someone knows more than we do. I was told by a former teacher to treat anything I was told by salesmen, lawyers, politicians and teachers with a questioning attitude. They might have silver tongues but they're not always right. Constant criticsm for the sake of it is wrong but so is unquestioning support. Its a fine line to tread.

Can’t disagree. Outthought by Peter Leven. Twice.

Unless we get a new manager it won't make any difference. The players Kettlewell has brought in are far worse than the players he inherited.

Easily done with corrupt officials in your corner for 2 of those games

Completely agree Dave. Kelly is a good shot stopper but the other parts of his game are limited, especially commanding his box and dealing with crosses. I'm sure we could recruit an equally talented shot stopper who is a better all round keeper than Kelly on the same or even less money.

The only thing more eye-stabblingly painful than the annual "writing off new players we have signed" ritual is the annual "writing off players we haven't signed" ritual.

📽️ Nerve wrecking game played at Easter Road.

I won't. They can roll up their plastic pitch and take a hike. Zero entertainment ever on offer at their ground against any team.

It's more than breathing space. Nine ahead of St J with three to play and a 22 goal GD advantage. We're safe.

So, this match thread will be a lot shorter than last weeks, seeing the Four W****rs of The Apocolypse won't have anything to post about 🙂 Well done to the oot his depth manager and his not SPL standard team 🙂

Last time I checked teams don't get relegated on their managers win percentage. Points and league placings are what matter, and we're currently sitting 9th. And we're closer to 8th than 10th. That's a good job. Not a great job, but a good job, with room for improvement.

Ollie Ollie give us a goal Ollie give us a goal Or more likely Ollie Ollie gtf

I agree - taking a stand for what believe is right is worth putting a few quid into . the real waste of money is shelling out for VAR .

Butland played the ball when the St Mirren guy was 6 yards away from him and the guy clattered into Butland. It should have been a foul to Rangers but Nic Walsh can't help himself. For someone who criticises refs every single time we play you seem to have a loose grasp on the laws. That St Mirren player just runs into people all the time. He's the perfect Robinson player.

Because he plays for Rangers.

I know what you mean, but we have had a few this season we have let ride. Good to see that our pen claim in the last Aberdeen game was unheld. Not that it helps us much. Personally dont think it was a pen, but they have been given all season.

Compare Vale's challenge to the one which put Lennon Miller out for several months. The Aberdeen player went in on him, late, high and with intent. Referee failed to produce a card of any colour.

It takes a real expert to play Conor Wilkinson in midfield. None of us could have ever came up with that.

Of course MJC will agree the game's at Fir Park. The rest he doesn't even need to post!

thank fuck I dont pay Sky a penny.

Mugabi can go anytime, hasnt progressed one bit in his time with us. Still makes the same basic mistake he always did and too regularly as all players make mistakes. .

Brilliant at heading the ball away but you look through your fingers when it's at his feet.

I agree that Casey has had his moments but Bevis just gives the fear every time he is on the ball. An absolute gem of a guy and always welcome at fir park but time to move on

Apparently Bevis to Dundee utd is the next rumour. I wouldn't lose sleep over that to be fair

That's a bit harsh. People on here are allowed an opinion whether you agree with it or not. It's a democracy. There's no need to be verbally abusive to others if they disagree with your opinion. Its Motherwell FC forum. Not "happy clapper" forum. Whether opinions are positive, overtly negative or balanced, they should all be allowed to be heard and respected.

I was told St Johnstone appointing Levein displayed the kind of ambition Motherwell never show. Championship football seems a strange ambition, but there you go. Ross County, Hibs and Aberdeen could tell similar stories - multiple times - but apparently we should have no trouble finding a successful manager with great experience at our level.

With Vale that has been my main gripe for weeks. He is a striker so why are we playing him in deeper role? Bair is isolated on his own. I also agree that guaranteed he starts Nicholson but I would hope he started in place of Spittal and we bring Moses in for Vale. Or bring Shaw in for Vale......cueeeeeeeee......ba.......boom....🤣🤣🤣

It baffles me that Kettlewell can't see what the fans see every week regarding Vale. He's a striker; play him beside Bair. It's that simple. Although I bet he starts Nicholson instead of Moses next week. It's time for a new keeper next season. For a team like ours, I’d rather have a big commanding keeper than a smaller shot-stopper. I'm pleased to see that Kettlewell isn't afraid to call out the officials on this incident. However, it’s a shame he's not as quick to learn from his own persistent failings, as perhaps that would give some indication that he's capable of implementing effective changes across the piece.

First thing I thought of. 'Mon the Tull.

And as if by magic.......

Spittal dropped to bench for me, has been great for us but just been a passenger recently since pre contract with Hearts announced. Natural he won't be as up for it and wanting to avoid injury

And far more from open play when he does

Ollie Fuckin Shaw gies peace

Who was he marking?

I have no idea whatsoever about SK's contract negotiations with Liam Kelly, nor should I. However if we are keen to retain his services then it has to be framed as part of a far wider package. To me that isn't worth it, as he's not that crucial to our defensive capabilities. If we are to retain him, we'll need a formation and wing backs capable of preventing crosses into the box.. We'll also need to sign two huge and commanding central defenders to protect him from aerial threats. Thats an awful lot to ask in order to keep your goalie.

All VAR has done is move poor decision making on the pitch to poor decision making in the VAR booth. So instead of instant poor decisions, we have to wait a couple of minutes for them. The worst is having to wait for every goal to be confirmed. The most important aspect of football has had the spontaneity sucked out of it. I watch a lot of other leagues, including Scottish Championship, English Championship, Irish etc. and not once have I ever thought "that game would have been better with VAR" When there are tight (or even poor decisions) players and fans moan for 10 seconds then are right back at it. Which is how the game should be.

Aberdeen were the same pile of shite they've been in every one of the games that they've taken 10 points off us. Losing 10 points to them tells you more about us than them.

Yeah you have gone too far with that bit

If Kelly was just as good at commanding his area, distribution, and coming for crosses as he is at shot-stopping, he wouldn't be at Motherwell. Players who are competent in all areas and who consistently play relatively well will draw interest from further up the food chain. I'm not saying we should retain Kelly or that he's worth what he's getting at the moment, but the notion that some fans have that we can simply let him walk and find another keeper who's just as good or even better for less money is unlikely.

Yep, he's in the defence, tit.

Did the commentator just say welcome back to the ACTION???

You're proving my point.