Spiderpig

I assume you were being sarcastic but still not appropriate or funny to make a comment like that

We have already beaten them on their own midden this season so no reason why we cant do it again, i agree with haggis there is nothing to fear in that team, so lets get right into them from the start.

If we beat ICT then we are pretty much assured of a top 6 finish however if we win and Ross county and Killie do the same then its guaranteed.

In my opinion as a non member of the WS i think that one of the fundamental problems people have with the WS is thats its perceived as a disorganised shambles re communication, admin, attracting new members etc etc so this may put them off joining. This is not some ad hoc initiative by the club that could be run by volunteers the WS will be the club owners, and as such it needs professional people in place full time to administer it on behalf of the membership. I am not saying that there is no place for volunteers to assist with specific functions but the whole WS organisation needs to be reviewed and put on a more professional basis if they hope to achieve their targets.

There is a big difference in the quality of the defending he would be up against from league 1 to the premiership, but i dont think another striker is what we need improving the midfield and defence are more of a priority.

That deserves the same response Robson got on Saturday....straight red

If the game finishes about 4.50 then you could make it, as it is at least a 20 min walk to the station. Best bet is to get a taxi to the game and arrange for him to come back for you after the match, we have done it a few times when we have been up there, pretty cheap as well if there are 2 or 3 of you.

I think the friends fare is only available on certain trains, we always go up on the Friday and make a weekend of it and it has always been available, but not sure of the Saturday trains. You need to make sure when you are searching that you make it for 4 adults or the friends fare if available wont be given as an option.

Just watched the highlights Dave, the pen was a stonewaller, probably lucky not to be a red card as well, so we got out of jail there, I actually thought the Ref was not too bad conned a few times by the Aberdeen players just falling down and winning free kicks but he handled the game well, no hesitation with the red card for Robsons assault on skippy, not the best we have seen but by no means the worst.

Not only does top 4 become a distinct possibility but if Celtic win the cup then 4th will get a Europa league place so there is still a slim chance for McGhee to do a repeat of his 1st season last time round and take us into Europe, given where we were at the end of January the turnaround in the team has been fantastic. As for ICT we will have them going 2-0 to the good guys.

Ripley for me he had a terrific game, some dodgy kick outs but excellent saves at crucial points in the game, commanded his area well, special mentions for Moult and Gomis who were great

Not this time the Record online is reporting on it http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/motherwell-fans-club-pay-touching-7590402#gYSzMZQkfdBZDjz7.97

There are many people who have serious concerns about how the WS seems to be administered, lets be honest since the outset it has been a shambles. The WS members will be the club owners so its not unreasonable for them to expect regular and relevant updates/communications on how the club is doing, how much money the Ws has, how its being invested and used, etc etc. The " fans need to step up " has been a well used phrase recently but the people running the WS need to do the same, they need to get more professional and convince existing and potential members that they know what they are doing, then they might have a chance to meet their targets. Their record so far has not been good how they act from now will make or break them and the WS.

I was basing the post on member paying at least £10 per month as per the quoted average payment, but i take your point though. I really dont think the money is the issue unless you are on a really tight budget, the problem is the lack of people wanting to commit to the club/WS on a regular basis.

According to the article below the annual income target for the WS from members seems to be 240k, currently they seem to be receiving about 96k a year from the 1600 members the WS has so either the existing members need to double their contributions or we need at least another 1500 or so members to get anywhere near the target figure. Granted the figures may have been revised but it seems obvious that either existing members need to contribute more or the WS needs significantly more paying members than it currently has to give it a decent chance to succeed. The question is does Motherwell have another 1 to 1.5k supporters out there willig to commit to the WS i dont think we have.http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35838545

I know that I was referring to the number of members the WS currently has and making the point that the revenue generated by them won't provide a decent buffer for the lean times, another 3 or 4 thousand paying members and it would be fit for purpose, but as I said given our fanbase that won't happen.

I was up at the game in Dingwall and we had approx 150 at most 200 fans, there might have been slightly more county fans at Fir park but to be honest i think the numbers were pretty similar.

Its 1-1 at the moment, good result if it stays that way

The whole fan ownership concept and hence the WS has been an ill thought out, badly communicated, implemented and administered shambles since Leeanne Dempster 1st floated the idea it wad a non starter from day 1. Now we are at the point where Les Hutchison appears to have got bored and bailed out and left the WS to it, does anybody really think that as owners they can run the club sucessfully i dont they give me the fear big time. Do they have a business plan to take the club forward, get fans back to games, maximise reveues etc because 1200 or so monthly direct debits just wont cut it. Certain clubs could make a go of fan ownership but in the premiership we are not one of them, even Hearts with 10k plus members needs additional investment from wealthy individuals to make it feasible. If we were an Albion rovers or a Clyde then the number of members we have could work but does anybody honestly think that on the members the WS has that we can maintain our status as a top club in Scotland i dont and i fear that unless we get some wealthy individual or consortium onboard to buy LH's shares then we will become a league 1 or 2 side very quickly assuming we survive at all. The concept of fan ownership is a good one and if it had been planned and implemented correctly who knows it might have been feasible but where we are now is not good and i fear for the future if we dont get another Hutchison or Boyle onboard quickly.

And then not tell anybody anything about it when it is arranged.

sounds to me like he is following the example of David Murray at Rangers cutting his potential liabilities before they get any worse. we dont and never will have the fan base to sustain fan ownership through the WS, i am concerned for the future now.

The paranoia and conspiracy theories re Skippy are reaching levels the blue and green ugly sisters would be proud of. He elbowed the other guy end of he got away with it during the game but if he now gets pulled up he can have no complaints, leave all this whataboutery pish to the old firm.

A draw would have been the ideal result as it would have kept accies closer to Killie and right in the shit but at least now ICT cant go above us if they win the game in hand. We now have a 5 point gap over both of them so not too bad, Killie and Dundee not getting anything was also a bonus as we stay top 6.

Quality from skippy Chris Sutton is a bawbag.

BT sport present games really well but some of the pundits they use are complete arseholes who talk shite the whole game, Chris Sutton and Michael Owen being prime examples.