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If we can stick a tricky runner along side him that can put it on a plate for him I'm sure we would bang them in. Something along the lines of the Ojamma Higdon partnership. 

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Can’t wait for guess the trialist when the club go to Ireland. Apparently we are taking 2 over with us and have another potential signing, don’t know if he is one of the trialists.

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2 hours ago, dinnae-punt-it said:

Another concern I have with Shankland is that he carries a bit of weight and isn’t the quickest. I have a suspicion that he won’t be as effective when stepping up a league. Might be why he hasn’t found a club down south yet.

It’s a real step up, I’m also not as convinced as some are.

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On 6/21/2019 at 6:51 PM, robsterwood said:

Hope "agreed" fee is nothin less than compensation amount and has big sell on.

I don't think we can get a sell-on fee if the player is leaving under freedom of contract.

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Plenty of players left us after not being able to break through and made a good account of themselves in the championship, while there are a few gems in the lower leagues, there are also a few would be treading water in our league.

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28 minutes ago, David said:

I don't think we can get a sell-on fee if the player is leaving under freedom of contract.

100% correct - when out of contract the only control we have is agreeing a development fee with other club should one be due.  If two clubs can’t agree it goes to a tribunal 

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27 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

Who is shankland and who does he play for? 

Highly rated at Aberdeen a few years ago, dropped down to Ayr and scored 60 goals in the last two years.

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2 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

So now got the attention of a few clubs ?

Yes, North and South of the border by all accounts, which is why we're unlikely to be able to sign him.

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2 hours ago, walking down the Fir Park said:

100% correct - when out of contract the only control we have is agreeing a development fee with other club should one be due.  If two clubs can’t agree it goes to a tribunal 

Could the two clubs not agree a lower development fee in return for a sell on fee?

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5 minutes ago, stuwell said:

Could the two clubs not agree a lower development fee in return for a sell on fee?

We did that with Dom Thomas going to Killie.

I think Killie did the same with Accies when they signed Brophy.

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31 minutes ago, steelboy said:

We did that with Dom Thomas going to Killie.

Buzzing for this...surely reaping the rewards soon! #DT23

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21 minutes ago, Al B said:

Buzzing for this...surely reaping the rewards soon! #DT23

The only DT in my heart ❤️

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I don't think Shankland is what we need. From what i've seen he is a poacher when we need someone who can lead the line and score.

 

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21 minutes ago, steelboy said:

I don't think Shankland is what we need. From what i've seen he is a poacher when we need someone who can lead the line and score.

 

Does it matter how the goals go in, Ally McCoist made a career of poaching goals and scoring from a yard out. If  Shankland was able to bang in 15 or 20 goals a season nobody would care how they went in.

That said it's a big step up in class from championship to the premiership so not sure if he would be up to it, but may be worth a punt.

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15 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Does it matter how the goals go in, Ally McCoist made a career of poaching goals and scoring from a yard out. If  Shankland was able to bang in 15 or 20 goals a season nobody would care how they went in. 

Obviously!

But whoever is playing up front for us will have to do a lot of work before they get any chances if we stick with the 4-2-3-1. It's like Kris Boyd, you can be a great finisher at one level and a complete diddy at the next one.

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3 hours ago, stuwell said:

Could the two clubs not agree a lower development fee in return for a sell on fee?

I guess they could, in theory. But it would be up to Oxford to agree to that I think, as we've not really got that many other clubs looking as though they're willing to pay the developmental fee.

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2 hours ago, steelboy said:

I don't think Shankland is what we need. From what i've seen he is a poacher when we need someone who can lead the line and score.

 

I mind seeing Shankland for Aberdeen reserves and wasn’t particularly impressed, despite scoring against us. He did look an out and out poacher that day. Interestingly though, Ian McCall said recently that’s he unsure whether 9 or 10 will be his best position, which suggests he’s may be developing into a more versatile forward. 

Anyway, there’s no chance of us getting him at this stage in his career with Sunderland, Hearts and Rangers previously signalling interest. 

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11 hours ago, MelvinBragg said:

What's your 3 in midfield in this scenario? Just curious as I reckon we're quite light in there...

Was going with Campbell/sloth and polworth. However you have grimmy/Donnelly as cover in there as well. 

As well as Semple and Cornelius who have played in there towards the end of last season

Not flush with options but enough in there. Midfield to front is where we need strengthened in my opinion

Think we have enough in. Dunne/Hartley/Gallagher/Tait/grim my/the new lad (forget his name)/ Livingstone at the back with mcguire and Devine as cover as well.

 

would like to see us a bit more flush with options up the top end . 

 

Id put scott out on loan for a few months with a recall option, didn’t see enough last season to see him as a first choice, albeit I’d love him to come back in and do a turnbull/hastie albeit less the old firm move at the end of the season

 

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Yes putting Scott out on loan is a good idea he needs games. There is potential there .

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22 hours ago, Yorkyred said:

It’s a real step up, I’m also not as convinced as some are.

Same, tbh. Polworth less of a risk as he's played at this level and played well, previously. 

Shankland seems to have really turned his career around after faltering after going to Aberdeen, but I wouldn't be massively confident of him leading the line for us on the 3rd of August.

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