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On Motherwell's handling of the David Turnbull situation, what are your thoughts (assuming no minimum release clause)?  

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  1. 1. On Motherwell's handling of the David Turnbull situation, what are your thoughts (assuming no minimum release clause)?

    • Happy we have accepted the quoted fee of 3.25m + add ons.
    • Think we should have held out for more, but still sold this summer
    • Think we should have kept David for at least one more season
    • Happy we have accepted the quoted fee of 3.25m + add ons, but shouldn't have accepted a bid from a club in Scotland
    • Other thoughts. Please comment


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So long I can’t even remember what he was out with??  So does a fully fit Dunne  go back into starting line up at left full back? 

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Deffo not at a left back, I think Carroll’s had a great season. Toss up between a fit Dunne & Hartley for me. Dunne maybe just having the edge due to the pace he brings.

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Yeah, he probably displaces Hartley. Don't see him playing left back unless in an emergency.

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If we're going with a back three, then Dunne plays the left side. Back four, then it's tough on Hartley, but I can see Dunne taking his spot - at least until big Declan gets moved on for a few quid.

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14 hours ago, weeyin said:

If we're going with a back three, then Dunne plays the left side. Back four, then it's tough on Hartley, but I can see Dunne taking his spot - at least until big Declan gets moved on for a few quid.

Dare I say it but one of the reasons we've been better this season is Dunne hasn't been playing.

 

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Dunnes pace at back is an asset. But his positioning and distribution can be iffy. Definitely better as left side of a 3 but good cover for Carrol if he was injured. 

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15 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

Dare I say it but one of the reasons we've been better this season is Dunne hasn't been playing.

I'm not sure about that. Dunne is prone to the occasional blunder and his passing isn't exactly top notch but I reckon he's better than Hartley. The latter might have good leadership qualities and be better at attacking set pieces but he's not as good defensively and his passing is suicidial at times. I don't think our defence has been great at all this year despite recording quite a few clean sheets.  Undoubtedly Gallagher and Gillespie have been the defensive rocks. Both Hartley and Dunne are out of contract at the end of this year, and as far as I know, neither have been offered new deals so far.  Defensively neither Carroll nor Grimshaw/Tait have been great, although that may be down to the way they're instructed to play.  Certainly many of our opponents have been pretty toothless so far and fortunately have been unable to convert frequent chances into goals. Although we limited St Mirren to one goal on Saturday they missed a few chances and also hit woodwork.

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How about this for a starting XI

                                             
                              Gillespie 

          Gallagher    Donnelly   Dunne

Arrons     Campbell     O’Hara    Polworth

                                     Turnbull    
                    Watt.                          Long
            

 

                                                             

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Hmm, not for me. 

Donnelly at centre back and Polworth out wide does not fill me with glee in any formation. 

When Dunne and Turnbull are fit I'd expect them to come in for Hartley and Polworth sooner rather than later, sticking to the same formation.

 

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If it wasn't for his pace Dunne would be nowhere near the first team IMO,  distribution shocking but Hartley's distribution shocking also.    If Dunne comes back then it is in place of Hartley, not Left-Back though I have to say I have not been impressed with Carroll recently,   runs to halfway line then always a sideway pass plus his defending not been great as has Grimshaw's.  

If Robbo changed to a back 3 then I would have Dunne, Gallagher and Hartley though feel sorry forbig Declan trying to keep the pair of them in check.   COYW

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Hartley's fine at the centre of a back three when his job is just to head things all day, the problems only start when he has to pass the ball or there's a chance somebody might run at him.

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1 hour ago, wellwell91 said:

How about this for a starting XI

                                             
                              Gillespie 

          Gallagher    Donnelly   Dunne

Arrons     Campbell     O’Hara    Polworth

                                     Turnbull    
                    Watt.                          Long
            

 

                                                             

Trying to fit square pegs in round holes.

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31 minutes ago, wellwell91 said:

Ok after recent debacles where are the round holes ?????

when you posted it, for me it was Donnelly and Polworth, I thought Donelly was done at CB however gladly ( or maybe more relieved) he played very well so I am happy to admit maybe I was wrong on that one, he maybe does still have CB in his locker. You do still have Polworth as a square peg in a round hole though playing in left midfield?

It is a dilemma because when Turnbull is back, we have 4 very capable players for three roles. I don't know who drops out and I am glad it is not my decision.

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27 minutes ago, Neilwell86 said:

when you posted it, for me it was Donnelly and Polworth, I thought Donelly was done at CB however gladly ( or maybe more relieved) he played very well so I am happy to admit maybe I was wrong on that one, he maybe does still have CB in his locker. You do still have Polworth as a square peg in a round hole though playing in left midfield?

It is a dilemma because when Turnbull is back, we have 4 very capable players for three roles. I don't know who drops out and I am glad it is not my decision.

Polworth on the left may or may not work but I would try it for his passing ability alone…… think the back 3 can at least defend 

Still think on paper it’s a formation worth a try 

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On 2/10/2020 at 12:48 PM, Ya Bezzer! said:

Dare I say it but one of the reasons we've been better this season is Dunne hasn't been playing.

 

The reason we have been better is our keeper is saving far more shots than he should compared to any other keeper in Scotland.  

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1 minute ago, Wellfan1984 said:

The reason we have been better is our keeper is saving far more shots than he should compared to any other keeper in Scotland.  

We had also scored more goals than any other team outside the OF in the first half of the season. That often helps.

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Suggesting to play Polworth anywhere other than in the middle of a midfield 3 is daft IMO. He doesn't have the work ethic to play anywhere else.

 

Reminds me of Vigurs in the respect.

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1 hour ago, Busta Nut said:

Suggesting to play Polworth anywhere other than in the middle of a midfield 3 is daft IMO. He doesn't have the work ethic to play anywhere else.

 

Reminds me of Vigurs in the respect.

No offence Busta. But that is a lot of nonsense.

Polworth has one of the best work rates in the team. The guy does an absolute shit load of running and covers a lot of ground.

Even Robbo himself stated that he regularly tops the most miles covered in a game. 

Think you are doing him a massive injustice. 

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No offence taken, we can all have difference of opinion. My opinions vary week to week anyway. Maybe I am doing him a massive injustice. I wouldn't trust him to mark and tackle someone if needed though he's a massive shitebag.

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3 hours ago, Busta Nut said:

Suggesting to play Polworth anywhere other than in the middle of a midfield 3 is daft IMO. He doesn't have the work ethic to play anywhere else.

 

Reminds me of Vigurs in the respect.

Comparing Polworth with Vigurs in that respect is ridiculous.

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Davie apparently down seeing  his Consultant in the Fortius Clinic today to get the final clearance to resume playing.

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