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2018/2019 Game 38: Livingston (H) May 18th 12:30pm Kick off

Win, lose, or draw?  

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  1. 1. What do you think the score will be this weekend?

    • Motherwell win
      23
    • Livingston win
      1
    • Draw
      6
    • Honestly couldn't give a fuck really
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2 hours ago, weeyin said:

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Shame it’s not like that every week to get behind the lads. For a club like us we should be getting at least 5k home fans a week and handing out free tickets where possible as it is always going to be made back from merchandise, food and drinks, programmes etc. Something the club should do more often the more full the stadium is and the more noise the more it transforms onto the park.

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8 minutes ago, supermarv said:

Shame it’s not like that every week to get behind the lads. For a club like us we should be getting at least 5k home fans a week and handing out free tickets where possible as it is always going to be made back from merchandise, food and drinks, programmes etc. Something the club should do more often the more full the stadium is and the more noise the more it transforms onto the park.

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20 minutes ago, supermarv said:

Shame it’s not like that every week to get behind the lads. For a club like us we should be getting at least 5k home fans a week and handing out free tickets where possible as it is always going to be made back from merchandise, food and drinks, programmes etc. Something the club should do more often the more full the stadium is and the more noise the more it transforms onto the park.

Do the club not do that anyway? Certainly in recent seasons, they used to invite applications from kids' organisations (cubs, BBs, schools, etc.) to get free tickets for most home games.

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12 minutes ago, weeyin said:

Do the club not do that anyway? Certainly in recent seasons, they used to invite applications from kids' organisations (cubs, BBs, schools, etc.) to get free tickets for most home games.

Doesn’t seem like it as crowds seem to dwindled this season around 3.5k - 4k. 

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22 minutes ago, fizoxy said:

How much money would we lose if kids were just free all the time?

Probably a fair bit, but my argument has always been that you would make it back with kiosk sales, merch, and the accompanying adults paying. 

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2 minutes ago, Yoshi-1991 said:

Probably a fair bit, but my argument has always been that you would make it back with kiosk sales, merch, and the accompanying adults paying. 

Same 

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15 minutes ago, Yoshi-1991 said:

Probably a fair bit, but my argument has always been that you would make it back with kiosk sales, merch, and the accompanying adults paying. 

Presumably the club have plenty of actual figures based on the number of times they've done this over the years, and have determined that they wouldn't...

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28 minutes ago, numpty said:

Presumably the club have plenty of actual figures based on the number of times they've done this over the years, and have determined that they wouldn't...

True, but they have only ever done it for one off games and I am not sure those figures would ring true for the course of a few games or over a season. Other factors to take into account that dont stack up for one off games are things like merch, where someone going to a one off game isnt going to buy a top, someone going every week would. Also there is no momentum, if a kid is going for free every week there is a good chance that that spreads throughout their friend groups etc where as if they need to pay they may only go once in a while or not at all depending on their family's financial situation or other commitments/ cheaper alternatives.  

and then of course if you hook them young, they become paying ticket holders down the line.

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1 hour ago, fizoxy said:

How much money would we lose if kids were just free all the time?

I am over 60 now, and been a fan all my days, but I never paid in when me and my pals were wee boys. We used to sneak in before the game started over the wall from our school, Knowetop. Or we crawled under the turnstiles, or got lifted over them.  Anyway, I was well and truly hooked. So let the kids in free, and hopefully they will return for the next 60 years

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They've tried a few different approaches with "Wellevate" and the like. Right now, kids 15 or under can get a season ticket in the O'Donnell, Hunter or Cooper for £20 - that's not a bad deal.

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Anytime the south stand isn't in use next season,for games against the likes of Ross county and livingston,i would like too see us giving away free tickets.i get that there would be costs involved to open the south stand for they games,like stewarding and paying kiosk staff but if it was financially do able,i would hope it was something the club was thinking about,it would be better to have a stand with local youngsters getting in for free than having it lying empty.

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2 hours ago, weeyin said:

They've tried a few different approaches with "Wellevate" and the like. Right now, kids 15 or under can get a season ticket in the O'Donnell, Hunter or Cooper for £20 - that's not a bad deal.

Yeah I agree, however I also think the club could do more to market it. The way they currently advertise, its aimed at already existing fans, not well tailored towards the general public. 

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I don’t see any kind of disadvantage to the club having 3.5-4K sold money tickets (who are likely to buy stuff from kiosk, cooper, programmes) and then giving away the rest of the tickets who would do the same most likely as above. You’d rather the tickets were used up than a more than half empty stadium. It’s always possible aswell that they kids who came last week may see the 20 quid season ticket and get one. 

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38 minutes ago, supermarv said:

I don’t see any kind of disadvantage to the club having 3.5-4K sold money tickets (who are likely to buy stuff from kiosk, cooper, programmes) and then giving away the rest of the tickets who would do the same most likely as above. You’d rather the tickets were used up than a more than half empty stadium. It’s always possible aswell that they kids who came last week may see the 20 quid season ticket and get one. 

Anecdotal evidence maybe, but one of my colleagues informed me on Monday night that her daughter, having got a free ticket on Saturday, was now saying she wanted a season ticket.  Only one person and the notion may wear off in the close season but suggests it's possible to have an impact. 

You have to wonder if doing it for the last day of the season is the wrong time to do it. Obviously I don't know if it's even possible but doing this for the league cup games in the summer or an early league game might have a more positive impact as there's another game right around the corner and therefore less of a cooling off period...

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3 hours ago, MelvinBragg said:

Anecdotal evidence maybe, but one of my colleagues informed me on Monday night that her daughter, having got a free ticket on Saturday, was now saying she wanted a season ticket.  Only one person and the notion may wear off in the close season but suggests it's possible to have an impact. 

You have to wonder if doing it for the last day of the season is the wrong time to do it. Obviously I don't know if it's even possible but doing this for the league cup games in the summer or an early league game might have a more positive impact as there's another game right around the corner and therefore less of a cooling off period...

Although, if it's encouraging kids to ask for a season ticket, it's not a bad thing to be doing it when all the season tickets are on sale at their early bird pricing.

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