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I’m also mystified by the expectations of where people think we should be as a team right now. Stevie has been in charge for what, 2 months? What are the expectations after 2 months. Sounds like people bailing on him already. We are already a much better team to watch even when we don’t play well. We have a decent number of points. We have created a barrow load of chances, much more than under previous manager. So issues are not converting enough chances, basic defending mistakes, lack of depth in squad. I think same issues under many of the previous managers but most of them chose to address the issues by shutting up shop and playing dull dreadful football that would make your eyes bleed at the expense of trying to improve the level of football on display. I think the new manager is addressing it by trying to improve the style of football we play. Yes we will loose game we shouldn’t but I think we will end up winning more games by being a better football team than other clubs. We will also be a hell of a lot better to watch. Some people tag him as being Naieve but I think it’s been so long since they’ve seen us play decent football that they forgot it comes with some risks, as does approaching games with the attitude that’s it’s just a scrap to see who wins the ball or gets the lucky break. We will still have our good and bad games, especially as we are in the process of “re-learning” how to actually play football. But I think we have a much better chance of success as a good footballing team than we do as a bunch of scrappers playing hoof ball and just muscling our way thru games. So it will take time to get there but I see a much better team ahead with Stevie at the helm than a few of our previous managers. COYW!!!5 points
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How quickly they forget. "Apparently"? The bit you miss out is the drain we were heading down under Alexander. Evidenced by the last six months....not just December to March.... of his tenure culminating in that shambles against Sligo which likely cost the Club a fortune. That's a pretty important aspect to ignore. Alexander did well originally and deserves credit and thanks for that. But his reluctance to adapt or acknowledge the need for change when we were in freefall ultimately saw him leave. The football on show was unbearable when the points dried up. For those Alexander supporters who now question the merit of replacing him with Hammell or anybody else I ask you if you really believe we would be better off had he stayed? And if the answer is yes, then on what basis that takes account of his performance in 2022? Hammell has made mistakes and probably will make more. But he is learning and is a breath of fresh air. In time I believe he will secure enough points to keep us safe and from there take us forward. Much is being made of one win in however many and of Sunday's narrow loss to Rangers. Admittedly a weakened Rangers side coming off a humiliation from a team that were Champions League runners up. Depleted team or not, every one of those Rangers players on Sunday would walk into our team. As for the current run of results let's consider the Shields penalty not awarded at Easter Road and the assault on Tierney at Celtic Park. All ifs and buts of course, but things could have been so different. Two draws there and the Ross County win would have been seen as an excellent return. Small margins. And most fans and pundits were of the view the Hearts result did not reflect the game. I guess that's why Motherwell were applauded off the park. When Hammell was appointed everybody (even those who were against his appointment for whatever reason) acknowledged he would need time and probably a lot of it to turn around the shambles he inherited and to introduce his own structure and ethos. How long has he been in charge? Twenty years since we have beaten Rangers in the League yet Sunday is a disaster it seems. No leeway given at all for our own run of injuries in the week leading up to the game and the fact we had a load of kids on the bench. Feels like a few on here (not you David) are licking their lips at the thought of Hammell failing and them being proven correct. Well, Alexander has gone and Hammell is the man in charge. People need to accept it. And he has the support of the vast majority of fans. How long should he get to prove himself? At least this season and a couple more transfer windows in my opinion. Beyond that, if things have not worked out, he will be history. As for Sunday? it wasn't great but it was much more of a competition than the game last April. Who was in charge then?3 points
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Find the the apparent dislike of Tierney mystifying. His positional sense and willingness pick up ball in central middle third and drive ball forward something we've lacked for years. He's young and will only improve with time & games. Where I sit PoD many think the same. Morris on the other hand, should never have started and either Cornelius or Maguire a better option on the day.3 points
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Are folks really judging Hammell on todays performance? What choices did he have? What options did he have from the bench? Personally I think we have shown enough so far to suggest we will be fine. January will be important as today has shown how light we are up front when we have a few injuries. I like how he has us playing and Im willing to give him time to get it right. We are mid table right now after a tough run of fixtures. Lets see where we are in January after half the calendar and with Hammell having had the chance to try and get a few more in. As much as I wasnt getting carried away after Ross County, Im not gonna get suicidal after defeats feom Celtic and Rangers.3 points
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Losing by a single goal to Rangers isn't exactly one of the worst results in our history. I find it bizarre anyone thinking this is a bad Rangers side. Why? Because they're getting pumped in the Champions League. They've lost once in the league, and that was to Celtic. Well, we were hammered by Sligo Rovers not so long ago. The gulf in player quality between them and us has probably never been bigger and we are missing a few starters. How long ago was it that we beat Ross County by five and everyone was raving about it. I think we're solid enough in a league full of at least eight very poor teams. Also, on Moult. Anyone saying he was pointless signing seems a little hysterical. I'm sure we all wanted him to start by now but there's a long season ahead with a six-week break in the middle. There's plenty of time to make differences to player fitness and style of play.2 points
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A bit harsh to put much of this on Hammell. He came in late in the transfer window, not able to bring in many/quality as most teams have snapped people up. In addition we've got several key players out at the moment. No team has done us over, including the OF. We've competed and been much better on the eye than the last 12 months with Alexander or Robinsons last 12 months. We're 8th, which is about where we should be. We've given some cheap goals away, that's no different from GA and most are the same players, it's individual capability the issue rather than poor game mgt by Hammell. In terms of other managers, there wasn't an extensive list to pick from. From those quoted I personally believe we made the right choice. Continue to approach games as we have, make chances, play creatively I suspect we'll be 9th or better come the end of the season and that will do me just fine. Hammell needs a few years to build a team, over a few summer transfer windows.2 points
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Really don't understand all this pish about no-one being willing to take a yellow for the team to stop the first goal. There were bodies close enough to Tillman to have made a fair tackle or to have got themselves between the ball and the goal at the very least.1 point
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I remember the fans crying out for entertainment when Alexander was apparently stinking the joint up. Under the previous manager we got two draws at Ibrox and a draw at Fir Park against Rangers, which is decent going, but none of that really mattered. He came in when we were looking terrible, and guided us to an 8th place finish, then a 5th place finish and a quarter final in the Scottish Cup in his first full season. All in all, a decent record, even if the season was a bit mental with that run without a win from end of December until March. But, many fans were quick to say that they paid their money to be entertained, so we're getting what we wanted. One way to look at it is if we're in 9th or 10th at the tail end of the season it's going to be exciting watching to see if we can play our way out of relegation trouble. That's maybe better value for money than holding Rangers to a draw at Ibrox and boring 5th or 6th place finish. If we're wanting entertaining football which also puts wins on the board then it's going to be really difficult to get that with our budget. I wouldn't bet on Guardiola accomplishing that at Motherwell, never mind Stevie Hammell. As things are we're certainly easier on the eye, but that comes with more risk and a higher chance of mistakes being made that could cost us. Just the way it is.1 point
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Had forgotten about this till I saw an article on FB, but can the knob or knobs that keep chucking stuff onto park , pack it in, just costing the club money ...footballers like the rest of us don't deserve to be assaulted at work1 point
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I honestly don’t think we are a bad side we certainly have good players, obviously our defence let us down again yesterday but the 11 games we have played for the first round of fixtures I think we only had one bad second half performance against Killie and possibly the St Johnstone last minute of the game, the Hearts game god knows how we lost that game never mind loose 3 goals, but the rest of the games we never really out of the games and to have a 0 goal difference is quite an achievement considering we have lost 6 of the 11 games played. my main concern now is the injury list and no signs of any coming back soon?1 point
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Goss would have taken a booking if he wasn't on a yellow. My point was that the idiocy at the free kick in the first half contributed to us losing the game.1 point
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I think before the start of the world cup we are going to find out how it's going to play out never mind end of February.1 home win 3 goals scored at home all season(1 own goal) isn't really good enough we can all the excuses under the sun but this squad is no better or worse than any other team it all comes down to setting the team up properly and weakness has proved we didn't strengthen up front properly we signed two very injury prone players that's came back to haunt us big time. Something is not clicking somewhere has the effort went up?100 percent but effort does not win you games scoring more goals than the other team does. 14 goals this season 7 have came from open play,5 pens and 2 own goals. I never thought we would miss Efford but we really could have done with him yesterday might have even got something out the game.1 point
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Yes I’m afraid it was bad. I do understand the posts stating that Rangers are on a different level to us financially but we were our own worst enemy, we’ve taken draws against Rangers teams that we’re far superior to yesterdays. It’s also a mental attitude thing with Rangers, as badly as they play I never get the impression we believe we can actually take them on and win, we never had a better chance to do that in my view. Unless we have a day like one or two other teams have had against old firm where they put that fear to one side we will be another 20 years.1 point
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Sorry but he had a month to get proper players in and it's hardly he wasn't about the first team or know what was needed. So he brings in Moult which has been a disaster pointless signing it is beyond baffling and Aarons who has spent more time on the treatment table than on the pitch.Two unforgivable wastes of resources that should have never been giving the go ahead. If Robinson or Alexander had done that folk be foaming at the mouth. We need to do so something cause slowly starting to grind to halt.I would just try different a formation but I 100 percent think two up front needs to happen KVV and someone see how it goes.1 point
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Why dont we all just stay at home. Obviously no point turning up.......1 point
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No need to scapegoat him. Hammell has the same players playing much better football with a marginal difference in results. That speaks for itself.1 point
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Agree. Said at the beginning I thought he was the wrong choice. Apparently its still all Alexander's fault that we aren't playing well? Because it was his team? Completely disagree. Alexander came in and inherited Robbos team and kept us up and got us to fifth and I completely understand it. We were playing poor football under Alexander and the relationship between him and some of the fans had broken down but seriously. Every week I go on twitter and Facebook and all I see is, results will come and we are playing good football. Good football means zero when you are in a relegation scrap. We absolutely appointed on sentiment and it's not working. I seriously hope he proves me wrong but at this point I don't think he will . And if Hammell didn't have enough time in the transfer window due to the late appointment you can blame that on the board for dragging the situation out. Seriously just no. Last season and the way Alexander went was hard enough. We deserve better considering how expensive it is to go to a game when you are on a low income (and I'm one of these people).1 point
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The last few games have given me the fear. On the evidence of the last three home games it looks like we will be in relegation trouble. The inability to create chances and a leaky defence is a fatal combination. Managers stand and fall by their recruitment. When Hammell was appointed I questioned how he would recruit having spent virtually his whole career at Fir Park and as a coach working in the academy. I feared his contacts in the game would be limited. The fact that he signed three former players, two injury prone and one untried youngster seemed to back this up. Only the completely new player Penney has improved things.1 point
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