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When Hammell was touted for the job I said that if chosen we would have to give him at least 2 seasons to learn/ build a team and that there was the potential for relegation this year. Most folk on here were still willing to go with him, yet 12 games into his tenure I’m reading a lot of negative chat about him, talk that he’s not up to the job and even the need to change manager again - FFS can some folk stop and think before posting! Yes we all see things differently and chat is good but get some perspective please - 12 league games and getting knocked out a cup quarter final by Celtic isn’t long enough to judge anyone on. Am I happy with the results or the way we have lost most games? No but at times I see enough to encourage me to believe that thing could get better, results could improve and with some luck this team should be good enough to stay in the top flight this year.

Firstly, we were poor yesterday. No arguments there. But the reaction from the usual suspects is unsurprisingly OTT and gives no consideration to the circumstances of the last few weeks. We have gone into a really tough run of fixtures with a threadbare squad and little ability to change things up as most of the missing personnell are in the same areas of the pitch. Our results have been poor, but yesterday was the first time I felt the performance fell well below the required standard compared to the level of the opposition. My one criticism of Hammell yesterday was that once it was obvious Goodwin had set Aberdeen up to counter our set up, he didnt go and match him up. We had the players on the bench to do it and I think it would have protected our defence a little more and given us a better platform to play from. That said, the changes he did make got us back in the game and a bad KVV miss and an inexplicable refusal to use VAR for the penalty decision are all that stood between us and a point. I also thought Tierney had a decent shout for a penalty in the first half and surprised VAR didnt look at that either. Its clear to see where our problems are and there is no hiding from them at the moment. But most of them are not of Stevie Hammells making, so we need to get behind him and the players as they are all we have at the moment. We need to try and scrape a few more points before the break and then hope we can get some players back fit and also sign a couple in the next transfer window. The time to judge Hammell is not now.

I think Hammell summed it up when he stated before yesterdays game that we need to be better in both halves. The stats don’t lie but they can paint a bit of a false picture. We had plenty of the ball but yet again failed to do many of the basics well, we continue to make basic defensive mistakes and can’t hit a barn door from five yards up front, that’s the story of the season, the lack of points over the last 7 games back it up. We do need to start picking up points and again that will come if we become better organised, work harder and get those basics right, there is no reason why some of our players should be going backwards the way they are, that comes down to what happens in training, a couple of wins will also see the confidence increase which is also important. Hammell needs time but I’ve not seen a lot to convince me he was the right appointment in truth, but of course it is early days and he wants to actually play attractive football which in itself is a refreshing change.

Even if SH was ripping into them as you put it and the players dont respond what can he do, have people forgot we are in a bit on an Injury crisis at the club just now, a paper thin squad with no cover, none of which is SH's fault, he inherited the mess. So currently we need to run with what we have and the team we had out yesterday is probably the strongest 11 we could field, maybe Cornelius in for Tierney from the start is all that he could realistically change. So we need to run with what we have until the injured players recover( maybe never in the case of Aarons and Moult) to give us more of a threat and pick up as many points as we can before January when we can hopefully strengthen the squad and get a couple of goalscorers in. So basically people need to cut SH some slack at the moment and wring their knickers out, no need for any pant wetting just yet.

Goss and Slattery got shown up in the Sligo game over run by a LoI side and contributed nothing in the two legs . BTW I’m tea total but yer slowly driving me tae drink

Aberdeen were terrible at the back but not bad going forward. In the first 10 minutes they made 2 big blunders at the back and we didn't even attempt to take advantage of them, we just let them recover and get away with it and that kind of set a pattern. Aberdeen are definitely there for the taking defensively but we didn't put them under enough pressure, especially first half. However one thing Aberdeen did do that we just don't is load the box. Pretty much every time Aberdeen attacked they got 4 or 5 players into the 18 yard box. Our players just don't do that.

First home game I've been to this season because of work and I was sorely disappointed by the quality on the park. Spital is a fraud. One of the worst players I've seen. Looked burst in the second half. Van Veen is not mobile enough. Their first goal was speed and a tidy finish. Van Veen continually dithered on the ball and the one opportunity to make a pass, took the selfish option. If we don't work as a team we will continue on this run. And to have a go at Peeney was the last straw. I'd have hooked him . He needs an attitude adjustment. I felt Kelly could have just clattered into the boy. Put pressure on him for the first goal. He came out, stopped and it gave the lad enough time to pick his chip shot. Peeney was shocking first half and improved inthe second. Second half he put a couple crosses in which seemed out only genuine plan. All in all the summer window will cost us. I can see us sitting in the bottom 2 by the January window and we seriously need bodies in to avoid the drop. Our form since January 2022 has been one of the worst in my lifetime. The standout: Mckinstry looked good and was often open on the second half. We decided to force things down the right for some reason and every cross hit the first man. Switch it up Motherwell. So easy to play against. Manager doesn't know his best team and is tactically inept. I'd have matched Aberdeen's formation as they constantly had the wingbacks available through the game. A sore one in the end. Also what's the point of VAR when it's clear the cooper stand seen a foul and it's not looked at. Terrible end to the game.

Our next 3 games: Dundee Utd (a), Hearts (a), Celtic (h). We’ll get zilch from that lot. The relegation bells now well and truly ringing loudly at Fir Park. Nobody to blame for this situation but the board. Clearly intended to start the season with Alexander as manager. Let him make all the pre-season arrangements, downsize the squad and bring in new signings etc. Panicked (under pressure from support?) after the two European ties with Sligo Rovers and sacked him. Clearly had no plans in place for a replacement. Then go through an “interview process” only to offer the job to the academy director, a rookie with little or no experience for the job. If, (and it’s a big if) there’s anybody left on the board with a semblance of common sense they should now be quietly looking around for an experienced manager to either: (1) Come in on a short-term basis to help Stevie Hammell out; OR (2) To take over and allow Stevie Hammell to go back to his job as academy director. And there’s no point in saying we can’t afford to do this because the cost of relegation means we can’t afford not to do it.

Saw that as well. The officials have made a total arse of it.

He should also have played his joker in the second half

Also, fuck having Neil Lennon anywhere near our club. He’s a classless bigot that makes an arse of himself at every club he goes to.

It’s not working at the moment . Here is my opinion on the rest of your post. Louis Moult - clearly a gamble but one most fans were willing to take . Sign yourself up for the hindsight police. Van Veen- doesn’t need to be another striker that plays off him, it just needs to be someone that isn’t Connor Shields Solhom - poor positioning yes sometimes but he is great at headering the ball - does your seat face the pitch ? McGinn - enough chances LOLZ - the guy is 8/10 every week. Get yourself off to Specsavers . Slattery - he has been off the pace last few games but we are generally a better side with him in the engine room Spittal - he played 2 great throughballs in the first half alone but we didn’t capitalise . Looked gubbed after 60 mins and should have been taken off Barry McGuire - I’m not a fan but he’s there to provide squad cover and come on late in a game to shore us up - not required recently as we are never in front. Neil Lennon - the guy is a weapon with well publicised personal issues he should be nowhere near any dugout far less ours.

Very frustrating day and genuinely worried as we have hard set of fixtures. We need guys giving their all and sorry..and just my opinion but van Veen is not a guy that will sweat blood for the cause, tota lazy arse attitude and fact he had rant at Penney says it all. Yes I know he has 10 goals and of course can't be dropped mainly cos no one challenging for jersey. However he needs rocket up the proverbial

So drop experienced players and bring in academy players with no 1st team experience very little game time and probably not ready to step up, aye OK then that will sort us out, give SH a call and pass on your wisdom. You really are a fud.

Don't forget that this team/squad, (plus Efford) went up to Pittodrie and took aberdeen apart with some great football not that long ago.

Total rubbish. St Mirren is full of FP cast offs and can compete and beat Celtic and won today. Livingstone go to Ibrox and get a point. They don't have any more money than us. The simple fact is we have appointed a rookie manager who is not up to it. It ain't rocket science. And just how do you know no one else wanted the job. Were you there at the interviews. I really love reading your self important know it all posts. Gives me a good laugh and we all need that at times

I said at the time when we signed mcginn that it would only make sense if odonnell was leaving.dont get me wrong I think mcginn has been a decent enough signing but as players they couldn't be any similar in terms of ability and were most likely paying them both good money to have one of them sitting on the bench.i would personally change to 3 at the back and move mcginn inside and have odonnell at right wing back,we need to find a way of making ourselves harder to beat,we are shooting ourselves in the foot on a weekly basis with the standard of goals were giving away.

So just so I’m reading your comments properly because someone like spittal is an ‘experienced ‘ player you don’t believe he should be dropped . What’s your wisdom and advice then how would you fix it or would you bury your head in the sand like hammell and play the same non performers in the same system every week and hope for the best ? As I alluded to earlier that fact we have no 21/20/19/18 year olds ready to step up is on one man that oversaw the academy and has now somehow found himself in charge of the first team - rather ironic