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Two days and another home defeat further on are you still of the same opinion David?

How teirney can't even come on from the bench never mind a start baffles me,nowhere near perfect but is always looking to link up with players and play passes.

I know what you are saying from a performance point of view but from a points point of view we are not doomed. Can SH turn it around and get the team to start picking up points? I think the answer is No! He has had multiple chances and failed every time. Can an experienced head take these same players and start to pick up points and keep us up? I think the answer is yes. Do I know who that person is? No! But the board need to figure our very quickly who that person is because it’s very apparent that it’s not SH. I am very sad to say that but he has had multiple opportunities to stem the tide but for me, as games come and go we are getting worse.

Absolutely. If he doesn't instigate matters tomorrow then the Directors should. No way should he be in charge for Saturday. That doesn't sound nice but the future of our club is at stake. It would also be the kindest outcome for him.

How many does he get. Each game brings with it the “must win” tag…….. and do we? Do we fuck. There’s nothing about this team that says we’re up for the fight. I’ve been going to Fir Park for nigh on 60 years and I’m struggling to think of a team that showed so little fight or direction from the coaching staff as the one tonight.

Losing to St Johnstone in midweek was a morale hammer blow. I’m looking at the state of the club and I can’t believe the state we are in. For the last decade or so I’ve proudly claimed we were the best run wee club in the UK. We punched above our weight in league and cup competitions, we developed great young talent and we fought against our financial limitations to build and rebuild sides season after season to compete. We always seemed to be a place players would thrive, when they left they were a much better version of the player that arrived and we’d benefit from their development. Off the pitch our social media and fan/community interactions were head and shoulders above any other side. We had club blood running though every aspect of the club and in Alan Burrows we had what every football fan in the world wants, their club ran by one of us. Not just one of us but a Well fan who also happened to be a fantastic Chief Exec. Now the club is unrecognisable to me. On the pitch no one is thriving, players are all getting worse it’s most obvious when we bring in a new addition. Matt Penney for example, he came in and was levels above, won consecutive POTMs but before he left his form had slumped. Same with McGinn, he came in and was a breath of fresh air but he’s a shadow of the player he was 4-5 months ago. Even Kelly, whom I firmly believe is the best Scottish Goalkeeper, has gone from making world class saves several times a game to the wet paper bag that conceded the second against St Johnstone and the near post shocker against St Mirren. Who’s working hard? Who’s fighting for us or for the manager? Off the pitch Alan’s stepping down. I’m honestly heartbroken he’s going. No one has done more for our club than Alan in my lifetime. We don’t know why he’s going. I hope it’s because he’s got a massive job offer somewhere but it could be because he doesn’t want to do it anymore, that would kill me. The only way is down from here, we’ll never find another Alan Burrows. As for our social media/comms we’ve gone from fully engaged with our fan base to KGB levels of secrecy and silence. Even basic information is withheld now. We don’t hear about how long injured players are out for. I went weeks checking team sheets looking for Moult to come back from injury only to find out from Twitter that he was back with Burton. There’s nothing in the pre and post match media, it could literally be the same videos every week. Contrast this period with the month or so before Robbo resigned. Robbo was a broken man, he was killing himself to turn it round and was demented that it wasn’t happening. What do we see from Hammy? He’s ‘disappointed’ and he’s got an itchy forehead. This is the time we need to hear things like he’s given them a bollocking, that he’s going to make changes to the starting 11 or tactics. That they are having them in on their day off for extra training, fucking anything at this point. everything feels like it’s falling apart and I can’t see how we get out of this. Col

The club doesn't miss much with player announcements, with posts across all social media and on the website, so not sure what else can be expected there. It has been discussed previously regarding injuries, this looks like a deliberate stance from the club, and could be related to player privacy and not telegraphing our lineups. Return dates aren't guaranteed either, so you'd get folk whining regardless. Not sure what other clubs do in that regard. I don't think the social media and marketing stuff needs to be at the expense of anything else, it's a different department from the football side and will have a budget that is dwarfed by that. Marketing the club and players well is imperative to any club, and fan engagement is just as important. Having some connection the players outside of the match day can help ease tensions and also build anticipation for games. Every now and then it gets us recognition from outside of our bubble, which may just entice a few more people to fir park. Our previous media team did end up getting carried away with themselves and became insufferable. It became more about them than the club, and they became disconnected from the fans, and more interested in their CV than serving the club. The current group seem to be delivering the bare bones, probably due to lack of numbers. There's no engagement at the minute, and I can't remember the last time we had any content about the players that isn't a pre match interview. That can add to the feeling of being disconnected. However, when results aren't going our way, everything gets picked at. No one would care less about the media output if we were winning.

I think relegation was always inevitable for us as a club. When you look at other clubs that have been relegated more than once in the near forty years we’ve been a top flight club, clubs bigger than us, then it’s a quite incredible feat that we have managed to stay in the top league for so long regardless of our luck with league reconstruction and clubs not having adequate stadiums for the top flight. However I do think that far too much emphasis has been placed on our social media focus and our standing in the community over the past decade rather than the team on the park and we are now reaping the rewards of that. Yes we are not a ‘big club’ and yes we are doing the right thing by reaching out to the community, something we didn’t do enough of in the past. However that should not take the focus off of what we are, and that is a professional top flight football club and the fortunes of the team on on the park should be our number one priority as a club. I feel that over the last few years our ‘on the park’ fortunes have been shoved down the pecking order in favour of our social media standing and our desire to be a ‘pillar in the local community’. And let me be clear, I don’t think that there is anything wrong with either of those, but they take the focus away from what should be the most important thing for us as a football club…to be the best we can be on the park and give the support a team they can be proud of.

The truth. Right there.

I think we are all digressing and focussing on one goal. At end of day performance over whole 90 mins was shocking. The starting line up on Saturday better have about 4-5 changes or fans will have had enough. I would start Johnston Cornelius and McKinstry at least. Lads that at least have an affinity with the club and will give you more effort than some of the pathetic attempts last night from some

No, nothing like that 😂 Nearest defender in the box goes to the opposition player. Our man unlucky not to make the interception after getting into that position, had he, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

What a shite comment on a particularly poor take.

There is the possibility he was told that he needed to move some out to get some in and trusted the board / CEO to make it happen. It may still yet. Regardless, its not all solely at Hammells door.

Agreed, but who does he replace them with? Hammell has surely seen the need for another central defender and a defensive midfielder. He ships out Barry Maguire and Sol (not saying they were the answer BTW) and doesn't bring in any replacements/reinforcements. It's largely a situation of his own making.

Like you I've been backing SH, albeit it's becoming harder every week to justify it. What I did like is he looked as annoyed as the rest of us after the game and was happy to call it out. He's been far too loyal to the likes of Lamie, Slattery, Goss , KVV. Appreciate not always had many choices but there's time to simply drop them, even if they're better skilled than others. Time is to stop losing, forget the lofty ambition of free flowing football. Get 11 men who'll get stuck in and work their backsides off - forget the 4-3-3 with 2 powderpuff midfielders.

Taken a while to process last night and not jump to any rash conclusions. The response to the result is entirely expected and mostly justified. However, I backed Hammell yesterday off the back of the transfer window and it would be hypicritical of me to change now after only one game when not all of the players signed have been integrated into the team. That said, I share many of the concerns others have highlighted. I get the fact that a lot of the players were signed very late, so to expect them all to go straight into the team is unrealistic. What I didnt expect was Hammy to drop Johnston and McKinstry who have been 2 of our most consistent performers over recent weeks. That seemed very strange, when leaving those positions alone would have allowed changes to be made in other areas more requiring of attention. Blaney getting injured clearly didnt help the situation, but is typical of the type of luck we have been experiencing. The 2 goals we lost last night are just 2 more in the long list of preventable goals we have given away this season and up front appeared disjointed at best. Going forward Hammy needs to accept the fact that we are in a relegation battle and change the way we are playing. He needs to identify the players he can trust to put a shift in and not let the heads go down the minute things go against us. Some of the others need a spell on the bench to show that there are consequences for poor performances and time to reflect whether they really fancy a season in the championship (given some of them are on contracts beyond next season). Time for some hard decisions and truths to be told.

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Agree with you m8,gobsmacked when I heard the team and that max j was dropped aswell

Totally agree with you Dave but I'll be surprised if it happens the people running the club are part of the problem. They never acted quick enough to get rid of Alexander, and compounded that by giving him a ridiculous contract extension which ultimately cost the club financially. Then they took the no work required, cheap and easy option to appoint SH another big mistake, sanctioned very poor recruitment to bring in the likes of Morris, Aarons, Moult, Ohjala, Solholm so since December 22 the club has been in freefall. The situation we are in now is salvageable, 15 games and 45 points to play for but only if we get an experienced manager in ASAP to get the squad playing. But for me the Current board seem equally as clueless as Hammell and if they don't man up and act now we are heading for championship football next season.

St J had an experienced CB in Considine, the number 34 in the middle who ran the show for 90 minutes and although I've never rated the guy Stevie May who's streetwise and will run all day. A proper spine of experience and willingness to graft and influence the players around them. Everything we are lacking at the moment. Whether it's our existing players having no confidence in hamell or something wrong deeper within the club one things for sure, if we continue on this path were going straight down without reply. My biggest fear being a long stay in the lower divisions for years to come.

If we're going down (and we are), I'd rather we went down swinging with players that look like they give a damn. As such team for Saturday should look something like Oxborough Johnston McGinn Lamie Furlong Miller Cornelius Crankshaw Tierney/Danzaki McKinstry Aitchison Defence I've left as I don't know the younger options there.. If Blaney is fit, temptation is to play him alongside McGinn. If nothing else, tthis would give us a chance to see who might cut it in a promotion push next season. Certainly the players listed are more likely to get tore in about the opposition. Which would be a start...

For the second game running can I vote for Bevis ‘cause he never played?

Disagree. What they need is a really long spell on the dole!!

I honestly don’t think he should be allowed to take this team any further than tonight’s game.

Great social media though and the flattest park you could ever hope for....

He got tripped up by a crisp packet on the park there 😂