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Still just a loaner like he was earlier in the thread, so still doesn't really count

Slightly tangential, but just found an interesting wee article from the Times in 2008 that mentions Gordon Mair's time in the successful Notts County team of the early 80's (and what he's doing now, or was in 2008). Certainly a few decent players in that team: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3216359.ece

He was only on loan though, so doesn't really count.

I wouldn't say all of those were right duffers -- a couple perhaps fell more into the "enigma" category. John Reilly seemed to find Billy's Boots every now and again and scored a couple of belting goals in his time, and my recollection of Gordon Mair is that he wasn't a bad winger until he had his confidence shattered by a crunching tackle on the main stand touchline one sunny day (can't remember who against, though). I never think of Derek Murray or John Gardiner as being especially bad compared to some later candidates either, but maybe I've just blanked them out

http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Tom-English-Jennings-still-waiting.6792828.jp

Two years too late... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/6217531/Chas-and-Dave-split-as-Dave-retires.html

And if we're allowing Ian St John, then Leitch left us to manage Ross County before returning again as Assistant Manager, of course.

Alex Burns: 1991–1997 Motherwell 74 (8 ) 1997–1998 Heracles Almelo 24 (5) 1998–1999 Southend United 31 (5) 1999–2000 Raith Rovers 41 (10) 2000–2001 Livingston 23 (7) 2001–2002 St. Mirren 22 (1) 2002–2003 Partick Thistle 51 (20) 2003–2005 Motherwell 43 (3) Fraser Wishart: 1983–1989 Motherwell 154 (5) 1989–1992 St. Mirren 51 (0) 1992–1993 Falkirk 26 (0) 1993–1995 Rangers 9 (0) 1995–1996 Hearts 9 (0) 1996–1997 Motherwell 14 (0)

Regardless of the rules, I always thought artificial pitches had to be laid as flat as possible? There's far too big a slope on our pitch that would cost far too much to sort out first.

I can't imagine it's very hard for the bigger English clubs to find teams that would snap up a fringe EPL or Championship player on loan or otherwise, so I don't expect there's much incentive for them to give priority to a mid-table SPL team.

It's fair enough if you lived somewhere else for a while and actually went to some games, or have family connections. But aye, otherwise it mostly smacks of Old Firm-style glory-hunting

I doubt it. I'd expect there to be scope in the plan for adjusting the ratio between average punters, wealthy punters and businesses to make up any significant shortfall. And I'm sure the club are already well aware of roughly how many, or few 'Well fans are likely to be able to afford to buy in anyway.

Herne Bay anyone? http://www.yourcanterbury.co.uk/p_139/Article/a_14336/Herne_Bay_hoping_to_create_link_with_Scottish_Premier_League_side

Personally I'd expect it to be as much of a non-event (on the park, at least) as every other pre-season friendly, but we'll see.

Fine, if they're happy to pay for my flights to Scotland every other weekend out of those wages...

His league stats, at least, were much the same: 53 goals in 173 appearances (30% strike rate), compared to 32 in 98 with us (32%). For the record, Higdon's career (league) stats are 43 goals in 204 appearances (25%).

Expect not, but if you can access the Listen Again version (which I think you should be able to, even outside the UK), there are some tools around like Radio Downloader that can download it as an MP3 for you.

I see Langfield spent last night in hospital after a seizure, cause as yet unknown... so their plans may yet change. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13605960.stm

Amongst other things, heard that some buses weren't allowed to pick up where they were supposed to, so nobody could find them, and some buses didn't (or weren't allowed to) leave for an hour or so after everybody was on board.

He'd hardly be the first EPL player to come up here, and it's not like he hasn't seen and done all that the EPL has to offer a hundred times over by now. So seems unlikely, but not exactly unthinkable.

The thinking, I suppose, was that he'd be a Celtic representative that the Motherwell fans might not boo, and might even applaud. The reality might have been different, couldn't tell from where I was sitting (round in section P, where the pair of them never came past anyway).

Indeed. Quote from the offical site, on April 23rd: http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2011/04/23/mccall-delighted-with-steel-grit/

That should be at least three or four goals a season we're guaranteed, then.

It's three years, according to STV at least. http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/hearts/252216-john-sutton-moves-to-hearts-from-motherwell/

Yep. 'Fishel site stats: Started:10 Sub:2 Goals:2 Yellows:2 Reds: 0