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I’m sure he’s on his last 12 months of contract - A cheeky loan spell to get him back in the shop window . the only risk is another player who likes to see the the physio

DennyMC - not only have you one of the coolest avatars wit big Sieb but this post is absolutely top notch and summarises brilliantly where the young players are together with what many of us are thinking about Vogyt. For me it covers exactly where we're at. Great post .

I agree with that albeit I thought Whyte was not terrible. I don't know what Ross or Booth offer at this stage and it get's my goat every time the manager leads with how great Booth is . He's no where near ready. Vogts isn't any better or to be honest JT looks completely disinterested. I had given JT the benefit of the doubt as he's missed preseason but today I didn't see anything.

Manager has to take accountability for fielding so many player out their depth. Players have to take accountability for not trying to play football - irrespective of approach or changes to personnel their approach wasn't good enough. Injuries are a real concern missing Sparrow , Williams, JK, Priestman. Lack of squad bigger concern - don't think any of the forwards we're missing would make any difference. Massive reality check today - I thought Falkirk was really poor - this like others have said was as bad as we've seen and we've seen it over and over and over again.

Falkirk was poor - a blip this is dreadful

Agree - first time shot even . as my uncle would say - this is pure mince and would then reminisce re likes of Peters and others from back in the day

There were a few posts earlier saying play a strong team , get ahead and then bring on fringe players - not the opposite . been a very poor yet predictable performance

Agreed - they prob need to play this level consistently to help them. Booth and Ross are nowhere near ready - not their fault but put them out on loan . vogt - a long way to go for him .

Vogt so far in Motherwell colours looks a long way off it . that said several are miles off it today

Appreciate a few players needed to be given a chance throughout the game + huge opportunity in Europe. To play Connelly, Wilson, Ross, Whyte and Booth from the start. Add to that it's Hodges first game and Vogt has been poor. For me it's over reaching in terms of changes and no surprise that we've been poor.

I’m supportive of giving players time and also conscious of not pushing g players who were getting up to speed . im less convinced about changing the keeper - it doesn’t have the same argument for fatigue and I honestly don’t believe connelly to be as strong. Here’s hoping we don’t make a pigs ear of today

We are a good side and who knows stranger things have happened. The odds gave us a 10 to 20% chance. I'm not confident but I am proud that we've represtend ourselves well. Has a feeling of Dortmund all those years ago.

We've come on leaps and bounds as a club over the 2 years. The best football we've been treated to in living memory. That eradicated some of the previous underwhelming performances when the crowds were high etc. I've never seen us have control like this in European ties - very good first half and for 20 mins of the second half we were outstanding. Stand up and sing.🎶

Stomach churring - could be nerves or could be excitement . Fingers crossed We’ll fans

Caught my eye that 3 of our 5 perm signings came from clubs relegated last season - wonder if that’s partly how we landed them - or perhaps just a coincidence

Thats as strong a team as we have at the moment . RCC is certainly more effective and match ready than JT. I feel for JT , he missed preseason and has been thrown in for 15 mins the 2x full games .

Sparrow has been fabulous this season and would be one of the first picks . last season I thought he’d fallen away and appreciate he wasn’t playing his natural position. He’s someone who with game time has just continued to grow

I’m sure most fans would love to see more their own coming through and to be fair there’s a virtuous cycle re playing and promoting youngsters that will encourage better quality youngsters over time. There’s a balance to be found . I’m up for youngsters going on loan which several have done . There’s an argument they’ll get ready faster for first team by doing this . The reverse must also be true where we get bigger clubs youngsters . Not all youngsters will be good enough - not just for the first team but also the squad . If we’ve had a player who’s been with us for several years , been out on loan and still lacking I don’t really accept that because they’re young and Scottish that we should keep them in the squad . fwiw I personally think the club are doing a very decent job at getting the balance right .

tough game - there's a few areas we're struggling and it's taken it's toll Not having a full squad, several players not having a full pre-season, accumulation injuries and struggling to keep people fit. Thought the managers comments were pretty spot on.

We need more from Booth and Vogt -both in the game but nothing sticking with them

if they were all fully fit then yes, but quite a few have come back from injury and getting up to speed. Either way be great to get more points on the board.

Today is a good time to mix it up and give guys like Whyte, Knight-Lebel & Booth game time. Be interesting to see if some players get a rested for first half, Longelo, Fadinger, RCC for example together with JK could perhaps benefit from no more than 50-60 mins on the pitch. Given the injuries, short pre-season and glut of games the 'loading' must be a factor.

not a spectacular performance by anyone but equally lots of decent performances - went for Moormann - thought he was solid.

Much better 2nd half - worried about the amount of injuries . we need to get signings in asap - (sorry for being captain obvious ) id give white a game from the start - he has the strength we need in midfield

Olly white and Booth both look decent . impressed with whites physical attributes