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That logic didn't even hold up to the end of your sentence.

Arbroath looking even worse than they did for most of last season. If Moult was still on his crutches I'd fancy him for a couple more in this game

The computer prediction in The Scotsman last month had us finishing 6th.

Zero career Premiership goals is less than Obika.

Sooner or later SK is going to hit a bad patch where we lose a few on the bounce, so it will be interesting to see how he deals with that. For now though, as you say, he just keeps preaching the basics while picking up results and long may that continue. You could see in the group games there was a layer or two that had been worked on over the summer. The most obvious one being how we played out from the back. Looking forward to this one tomorrow. Hoping the weather holds so I can take my bacon roll and the computer outside to watch in the sunshine.

When SK leaves, I'll be much happier if it's because he's brought us success than because he failed.

Before a ball's been kicked in the league, no harm in dreaming big for a top six finish. I think we might squeak it, followed by the inevitable poaching of SK by Aberdeen.

You might remember it that way. A quick search of the the site suggests otherwise. Slattery still gets called out as useless by some on an almost weekly basis.

We'll find out if SK is a coaching genius, clueless or somewhere in between. The backlash comes because every signing we've made over the last 3 or 4 seasons (or more) is immediately followed by posts of "useless" before a ball is kicked. From Porter to Higdon from O'Hara to Slattery. It's almost like some posters prefer failure so they can say "telt ye" In general, whether a player is a success or not, it's likely a professional manager or coach is much better placed to make an assessment than pie munching punters like us who think winning at FIFA makes them Pep Guardiola.

Disappointed you missed the Dense Park open goal there.

You think SK, a man whose livelihood and reputation depends on winning games, signed a player because his agent said he was good?

Defintely no falling out with Robinson to see here. Move along.

It's not really a B team though; it was mostly our youth development side including a few players who have just signed their first pro contract. EDIT: well_said beat me to it.

Mo Salah was considered a dud at Chelsea. As others have said, you just never know. What we do know is that a club like ours can't afford to sign a proven goalscorer guaranteed to hit 20 a season. Our business model is developing academy prospects or developing younger players that coaches think might have something. I have always enjoyed watching our players improve. It's part of supporting a club like ours. Slagging them off is the anthesis of "giving youth a chance" and 23 is still on the younger end of the scale.

If SK thinks he can make a player out of him I'll put more faith in that than the opinions of a few punters on here. Of course the usual suspects will be slagging him off before he touches a ball, but no change there. You can't directly replace a player like van Veen. You have to set up differently and look for goals from different parts of the team. Still looking forward though to steelboy's suggestions on strikers that meet his criteria that are available for us to sign.

Even the report in that link says it's all guesswork

I'd be fine if we start the season with a back 3 of Casey, Mugabi and Blaney. I'd argue positional awareness is very much something you can coach, but it's easier if you play in the same position every week rather than the full back, centre back, wing back, striker positions we've asked Bevis to play in his rare starting appearances. I agree Lamie and Mugabi in the same 3 doesn't seem to work.

A good run in the Championship with a team that should be pushing hard for the title is certainly a good place for him to be. Then it will be up to him if he Shanklands it or Watts it.

Raith Rovers would send half this place into meltdown.

Our luck with Cup draws in the old format used to involve drawing teams like Queens Park in a two leg tie and losing 4 - 1 at Fir Park. By the time the groups have played out and you reach the last 16 there is about a 50% chance on average you'll draw a Premiership team if you are seeded and nearly a 100% chance you'll draw a Premiership team if you're unseeded. The opportunity to play the "lesser" teams is baked into the composition of the groups. It's just the nature of the competition these days. My favourite format was the single leg knockout approach where every match was decided on the day (or night) and the final was in November. That avoided the meaningless group games and made it worthwhile for away fans to turn up.

Obika back to haunt them.

The only reason the seeding exists in the League Cup is to keep Rangers and Celtic apart as much as possible. Otherwise it's a bit of a joke. Still fancy us in the next round, though.

We did take the risk on Moult. It didn't work out.

I'm still laughing at that time you accused me of not getting joy out of anything. If what you post is how you really feel, then football probably isn't the spectator sport for you. Maybe something like basketball would be more up your street.

Methil no more. Take your pick...