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You make some really good points there.there is no plan in how we go about things,it's like take to the field and see what happens,what do we actually do all week at training as there's zero evidence of anything on a matchday.the left back issue has annoyed me for a while any manager that re-signs carroll and McGinley should be shown the door for that alone,carroll's performance again tonight was pitiful.unless we have been trying to move odonnell on then the signing of mcginn makes no sense as he isn't any better,all we have succeeded in doing is having one of our highest earners sitting on the bench.

Sadly that's absolutely true,we wouldn't be out the woods by changing manager as the squad is yet again an unbalanced mess,hopefully any new manager coming in would be able to coach us properly for starters,that might be enough to get us going in the right direction atleast.

There's no way back from this,he needs to go.hes assembled a squad that can't defend,no ability to pass there way through the opposition,no pace,no width and no goal threat.give him his nice little pay off and chase him before he does anymore damage if it's possible.

Alexander is a budget gannon,arrogant and clueless,atleast gannon signed some half decent players before he was rumbled.

We've just been easily outplayed by a team lower ranked than us over two games,we never even laid a glove on them,nobody pissed off by this result is dilusional.the writing is on the wall already,if you think this team will turn up and get off to a good start on Sunday then your the dilusional one.

Exactly,clearly there's issues with odonnell but he's better than mcginn,spittal and Morris look like they will offer next to nothing,we could be sitting here come the end of the season wondering where exactly there best positions are,neither were what was needed.

Were such a badly coached outfit,alexander should be made to swim back and pick up his p45.the players need to take there share of the blame for this,hopefully any new manager coming in will get wise to the likes of carroll in no time.

That shot on the tele there says it all,mugabi with his head in his hands and the managerial team all standing by themselves,were a fucking mess.

No width is a serious issue,I'm not slating spittal or morris as they have just came but they offer less of a threat than efford and shields and we then let our only player go that had any real pace leave in woolery.

Absolutely no goal threat whatsoever,were relying on a 31 year old striker and that's it,shocking position to find ourselves in.

I'm all for players taking a shot when it's on but maguire trying it at every opportunity is soul destroying to watch.

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I agree with the positions that you think need strengthening but barring any injuries I think we might only add to our forward line.if ojala is crocked again then we might need to bring in another centre half but I wouldn't be surprised we use mcginn there and play odonnell.mcginley is injured but not sure what's up with him,if he's out for a while then we need a left back,ideally one that's better than carroll.central midfield is still a conundrum,we could have 10 players to pick from and nothing would change,we would still play the same way,we have decent enough midfield players for the level we play at but the manager needs to start being more attack minded and not just having a midfield 3 where not one of them offers a threat going forward.a big part of our problem stems from not having midfield runners,last thursday was a casing point,it was just far to boring and predictable,if we had midfielders getting forward it would change the whole flow of the game and get the opposition thinking if nothing else.

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I'm happy to have him here longer,there no reason why he can't hit double figures again this season.we really need to be signing another striker to either play beside him or be at a level where it's going to push him to keep performances levels up and stay away from needless suspensions,we don't need someone that will just come in anytime he's unavailable to play and then sit on the bench the rest of the time.shields and efford could be used to partner van veen or another but I wouldn't fancy either leading the line on there own this season.i think we might need to wait until nearer the end of the window for a striker to come in,which is fine if we can get the right one in.

I'm not a fan of alexander and personality I think he will be gone sooner rather than later,I just don't see anything in this current team,I think performances like thursday we will see far to often this season.the first 7 or 8 fixtures are as good as you could realistically start the season with,if we don't get a decent points return in that time and get past Inverness,then I think the club will have no option but to part ways,lose on thursday and we're heading into the new season on a downer already.i never want a motherwell manager to fail,I would love us to turn the tie around on thursday and get off to a good start in the league but I just don't see it happening.

There's no doubt odonnell is a solid enough spl player but over the peace he's been largely disappointing for us but having said that the signing of mcginn didn't make a great deal of sense as I think there both of a similar level.if odonnell isn't in the first team plans then we should be doing everything we can to move him on,there's no point in having what must be one of our highest earners sitting on the bench whilst we play a player of equal standard.our full back options really are dire.

Not many of our players would get pass marks last season from January onwards but cornelius did enough to retain in his place in the team and certainly not at the expense of maguire or spittal.i would have him in my team,he gives us a bit of energy in there and atleast he makes forward runs,even though it's clear the manager has no interest in any of our midfield getting forward.thursday is huge for us and like you my concern would be his fitness as he's already 90 minutes behind the players that played the other night and some of them looked out on there feet after 30 minutes.

I actually thought the same about woolery,if we could have maybe kept him until this tie was over giving how short we with attacking options.i would like to see us go 352 and have odonnell and carroll force there players back and give us a much needed threat out wide,I would have tierney in to give us a direct running threat from the number 10 position.like you it's who we play up front that could give the biggest headache,van veen looked so far off the pace last night,you would have to think he won't train much if at all between now and thursday to try and get over whatever injury he's carrying.i don't rate efford that much but I would fancy him over shields with whatever chances come our way.were staring down the barrell after last night,I really hope we don't stick with the same formation that's been failing for months,we don't have a lot of options but I think a change in formation and getting some width from the wing backs with tierney hopefully providing a threat behind two strikers should be attacking enough without leaving ourselves open.weve joked about alexander's tombolo style team selections but he really needs to pull something out the bag on thursday.

We don't need to follow other clubs examples as a reason to put us off getting shot of alexander.aberdeen chose to get rid of a reasonably successful manager in mcinnes and replace him with a guy that will make a manager but he is the chairman's pal.hibs went for a rookie and then realised after about 5 minutes he wasn't upto the job and mcghee who has done nothing in management since his first season with us only ended up at dundee cause his mate strachan is there.i personally don't rate alexander and I think he will be gone sooner rather than later but in the grand scheme of things we don't have the worst track record of appointing managers,so when the time comes I'm sure we will be fine.

There was a spell last season when mugabi had improved,he was looking solid enough and there wasn't any daft mistakes but then he got punted to right back and his game was all over the place again.i was hoping we would see some improvement defensively this season and we just might but it doesn't bode to well that the first goal conceded has came from a howler already.we have umpteen defenders on the books but yet were a shambles no matter who plays,that needs sorted and quick cause we don't look like a team that will be scoring loads,all it could take is one goal to beat us just like last night.

I think we will see a couple of changes to the starting line up next week but that will be all,I'm fully expecting the same formation and approach to the game.sadly last night is the norm for us,it's not like we can say this team has 2 or 3 levels it could go up and there's nothing to worry about.

I totally agree with that,we've all seen us playing lower ranked teams many a time and we played right into there hands last night by playing slow pedestrian stuff,I'm not saying woolery would have been the saviour but we were crying out for a player with pace that would be direct.shields has pace and puts himself about but it's not enough,he offers nothing beside that,as you say him and mugabi should be benched for next week.i would go 352 with tierney in behind two strikers,atleast that way we would have a player who's first thought is to turn and go at the opposition,I would have cornelius in as well to offer a bit more energy in the middle of the park.if we see no reaction next week and it's more of the same then alexander should be sacked.

Agreed,any scouting report on us could be writing on the back of a stamp Spot on,I don't particularly think spittal is a good player but alexander said how impressed he was against us last season so then why sign him and then play him in a different position to the one that he caught your eye playing in,it makes no sense.tierney should be playing,he's the only one that when he gets the ball his first thought is to turn and go at the opposition.bang on about the formations,if you have the right players and everyone knows there role then any formation will work,we look a mess and not one area of the team looks comfortable,there's no partnerships that's formed,to be honest no player looks comfortable with what's around them.all it takes is one or two square pegs in round holes and everything becomes a mess.it looks to be like we're in for another season of chopping and changing at centre back and in midfield.

That's total delusion,he must be the only person watching who thought we were the better side,he's trying to deflect away from the fact that his team has put in yet another clueless performance.