Squirrelhumper
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Can't complain.
Our defence is horrendous though.
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Thankfully no.
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Signed Spanish striker today.
Looked decent enough when on trial.
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No goals against them last season was very poor imo. Appreciate what he accomplished last season but I don't rate Shiels very highly as a manager.
Be interesting to see how they perform in the league this season.
We lost 7 or 8 players, 5 of whom played in cup final.
We have signed two.
Squad is very inexperienced. 17 year up front first two games.
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Hopefully we can avoid a tippy tappy bore. Last season was brutal against Killie.
Speak for yourself. I'd take those results again.
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Hoping for goals and a victory to boost the confidence, particularly of the forward players.
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Think I'm going to go, but more than slightly put off by the £22 entry price.
Sadly looks like being one of the cheapest gate prices this year.
Away end at FP isn't exactly cheap.
As for game, I don't have a fucking clue how it will go!
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Jammy bastards!
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Make sure that you get John Gall to come with you, I know he secretly loves the Well.
Know him well.
You seen him recently? He's about half the size he was a year ago.
He must have stopped eating his profits.
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There goes your pint if I decide to go.
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Can you buy tickets on the night? Contemplating going but will be last minute.
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If its any consolation, we were shite today too!
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Killie releasing consultation papers on Monday and I'd expect a similar statement.
I'll be voting no to NewCo anyway.
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At least Motherwell are now giving the Well Society the vote, it’s a pity that Killie are not adopting a similar policy. At least if the fans vote YES you can’t complain that they didn’t consult you.
You are preaching to the converted mate.
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i think the way this is going the Killie chairman could really fuck his club over.
I fear you are not far off.
I hate that c**t.
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Brilliant news.
Well done all concerned.
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Only way they'll take notice is to withhold money.
From what I've been hearing, I think MJ has had a wee shock at our sales (or lack of them)
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I'd like to do it at RP but I'll be a Stone Roses in Manchester.
Our season tickets are way down, aren't yours something like 25% up?
I'd imagine you are the only club to have such an increase. None of my mates/family have renewed yet until h**s situation is resolved.
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Motherwell are actually one of the few teams who could immediately benefit from saying 'no'.
Motherwell are on a healthy financial footing ad have already budgeted, unless i am mistaken - for Rangers being out of existence. In that case, 'no' may be a vote that would help rather than hinder Motherwell in their current capacity.
Teams like Kilmarnock, Dundee United etc with huge bank debts etc do not have such a luxury and therefore may be financially forced to say 'yes'.
Unless the bank say they will withdraw facilities with immediate effect (they won't) then I'd be disgusted if we voted yes.
Our bank debt is around 8.5m, 6m of which is due to hotel. Dundee Utd are in a worse position than us but if you lose 500 or 1,000 season ticket holders at £330 each, then that's more damaging than losing Rangers.
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This thread is almost identical to one on killiefc.com (and every other non old firm Spl forum)
I can see both sides of argument but Rangers MUST be hammered, anything else and the game in this country is dead. Blatant cheating cannot be ignored
Horrible club, horrible fans and I wish them nothing but misery. Hopefully one down, one to go.
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I have deliberately avoided this topic other than to read now and again however I would like to make this point which doesn’t appear to have been picked up yet.
What actually surprises me in this whole mess is that no one has really clocked that any Newco Rangers would likely to be more punished than the current Rangers negotiating their way out of administration via what looks to be a very weak Creditors Voluntary Agreement.
In the instance of Rangers coming out of administration via a CVA, they are essentially going to shed over 100 million pounds worth of debt (assuming the BIG tax case does go against them), retain all the assets of the current company including stadium, training facility, top players, history etc and be virtually unpunished other than the ten point deduction they faced last season which, to be honest, didn’t matter a jot as Celtic ran away with the title anyway. Yet fans seem to be completely okay with this, only threatening boycott if they Newco.
Sure they (current Rangers) still have the SFA issue hanging over their head but the court of session judgement the other day basically means they will either be fined, which will no doubt be minimal, or suspended (most likely for a year from the Scottish Cup), neither of which will present them with any real problems whatsoever. I don’t think for a second anyone really expects the SFA to expel Rangers. Whether people like it or not, and the SFA know this, no Rangers would be the final nail in the coffin for some clubs and they have a duty to look after everyone.
Let’s take Kilmarnock as an example. They are only able to meet repayments on massive debt repayments based on current levels of income both from gate money and mostly from the current value of the TV contracts. Any radical shift in that arising from either this or, for example, relegation is likely for force Lloyds’ hand in liquidating the club and selling off the assets (stadium, hotel and players) to recoup as much money as they can given the unprofitability of the club at that time (either a vastly reduced income in the SPL or relegation from the SPL under the current circumstances). Why do you think Michael Johnson has gone public about how everyone should now go easy on Rangers despite their seemingly endless list of misdemeanours?
Furthermore, Rangers would also retain full voting rights within the SPL i.e. they will be able to veto, along with Celtic, any proposal to change the 11-1 voting structure as it currently stands. Essentially, aside from what is likely to be a watered down punishment from the SFA, they will be the same Rangers as six months ago, minus debt, starting completely afresh and most importantly when considering this debate, in a very strong position.
However, you have got to believe, given the furore that has been around a Newco, FC Rangers (or whatever name they are likely to dream up) will potentially face strict penalties from fellow SPL clubs as a given for league re-entry, including the very, very important possibility of rushing through a change in the voting structure I mentioned earlier which is really crucial in all this and what makes the SPL lop-sided at the moment. Do that and the whole landscape of how we distribute finance in this country can virtually change overnight.
I really can’t for the life of me understand the whole flag-waving for the anti Newco argument. If anything, fans should be protesting about “No to a CVA”.
You also have the fact they would be banned from Europe for three years, a punishment NOT set down if they agree a CVA, I honestly think fans have got it completely the wrong way around.
So for what it is worth, I say bring on a Newco and say no to a CVA.
As it happens, Killie have reduced our debt by £5m in recent years, so hardly just servicing it. We will post another profit this year too.
Our debt is circa 9m just now but Hotel cost £6m to build.
I don't care how much debt we are in. This is a sport, sporting integrity is paramount and if by Rangers getting their correct punishment, it somehow has a detrimental affect on Killie, then so be it.
Rangers and Celtic are desperate to leave. Having a business plan heavily reliant on them is unsustainable and the quicker clubs realise that, the better.
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The short answer as I understand it, is that it costs the club money.
If fans invade the pitch they get fined. If it happens again, they increase the severity, if you do it again, the fine gets larger still and so on....
Killie never got fined last day of season 2 years ago and there must have been thousands on pitch.
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I was there for "Admin Saturday" when the h**s sold out, turned it into a sash fest from 2.30pm onwards and expected to hammer us.
Oh how good that win was, they were waiting outside trying to kick off with us, so our singing about their demise defo worked! Fake money, party hats, the lot.
Get to ibrox on Saturday and rub the bastards noses in it!
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Hopefully we both ruin their party.
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