Kmcalpin

We missed chances early on too but yes we were well beaten by a bigger and better side. Hearts are too good a side to resort to such gamesmanship. That aside they're the best side I've seen this season.

Null vote for me. Felt a bit sorry for our our strikers as they were up against a mountainous defence and received shocking service by and large.

Of course McLeish is not solely to blame for the defeat. As you say there are more fundamental and deep rooted factors at play. But, McLeish must take a llittle of the blame. He was an establishment choice; one of the old boys network if you like and as such is part of the problem not the solution.

Final score at Dundee 2 1. Kyle MacDonald scored first, Dundee equalised then Broque Watson scored the winner. Great result.

The whole process is shrouded in mystery . A previous incumbent stated that his staff skimmed through TV highlights on a Monday morning to identify any incidents (presumably focusing on anything that had interested the media commentators). I now read that a panel of 3 ex referees seem to screen the TV highlights first and if they collectively deem an incident to be worthy of further action then its passed to the Compliance Officer. In the case of MacGregor only 2 of the 3 seem to have thought it was worthy of referral.

Whats he doing now? Languishing in Killie's reserves? I haven't heard of him for a while.

Certainly this latest non decision over MacGregor brings the entire disciplinary system into disrepute. It'll be interesting to see exactly what the next citation by the Compliance Officer actually is. A standard has now been established.

I suspect that Neil McCann is part of the Scots old boys network and our tame media won't want to rock the boat. I'm getting a wee bit concerned about Alan Campbell and the amount of games he's played and is scheduled to play, including internationals. It was great to see him score on Saturday and he's continuing to do well but I think he's lost a little bit of zip since last season. Hopefully Robbo will be mindful fo the dangers of burnout.

I read that Alan MacGregor has been at it again and was lucky not be red carded yesterday. I've not seen the highlights of that game and don't intend to incidentally.

Why do these incidents usually involve Partick Thistle? I seem to recall in the early 60s we were playing Partick at FP and it was Joe McBride (I think???) who hit a screamer into the top of the net. The ball then cannoned off the stanchion in the back of the net and back onto the field of play. The referee, who was momentarily distracted didn't see the ball go into the net and promptly waved play on. Result no goal.

No worse than usual. I turned it on and switched off after something like 20 minutes. Listening to Richard Gordon and Willie Miller was like eavesdropping on two Aberdeen fans discussing their team in a Torry pub. Billy Dodds then introduced our game at Dens by interviewing Neil McCann and commenting on our physicality....yawn. It was important for us to get a good result today and we did. Thats now 6 goals scored in 2 games! Bigi again seems to have turned it on - a changed player this season.

Something in that Iain. Of our 4 first team strikers I'd say only Bowman is suited to aerial balls. The others prefer it to their feet or chest height at highest.

According to the BBC we are in the market for winger.

Absolutely. We have experienced pros like Robbo and Keith Lasley in charge of the playing side and other very experienced pros like Stevie Hammell, Steven Craigan, Stephen MacManus and Davie Clarkson running our youth set up. Surely to goodness, they must know all our players, including the young ones, inside out? If its their considered opinions that the youngsters aren't quite ready to step up then who are we to argue. Steven Craigan said a wee while ago that loaning out young lads to lower division teams wasn't as much about developing their talent and technical skills but rather it was about putting them under pressure and testing them out in a competitive situation in front of bigger crowds. Very rarely do youngsters that we release go onto bigger and better things. Yes, we all like to see home grown talent make the first team but we have to trust those in charge.

Last minute panic signings from Dundee?

Kipre..clogger? Dunne....clogger? McHugh....clogger ATS ...clogger? Maguire....clogger? etc etc Is that not a bit unfair?

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No Mbulu or Ferguson in today's team and, as Steelboy has pointed out in another thread, no Maguire or Turnbull either. 1-1 at Kelty at HT. Jordan Armstrong equalised after the Pars opened the scoring. Our old pal, Kallum Higginbotham is playing.

I don't see the connection - sorry. I like our players to be physically strong enough to put in hard challenges and powerful enough to resist them from an opponent; but at all times to play fair. That doesn't preclude them from being fast or skillful. Cedric Kipre was my kind of player as he was of much our support apparently. What we witnessed from MacGregor on Sunday was entirely different behaviour; underhanded, dirty, unfair and apparently bullying a youngster. As Richie points out he has previous for this. I hope you can see the difference.

Really? What went on? So, no coverage of the MacGregor / Hartley incident from the BBC - what a surprise! As for media coverage I very rarely watch Sportscene apart from internet highlights. I listen to Sportsound as little as possible. Media bias from the commercial outfits is understandable as their first priority is keeping their owners and shareholders happy and that means maximising audiences. No problem with that. However I do object to a public body like the BBC showing such blatant bias. Our TV licence money is every bit as good as that from fans of ther gruesome twosome and Aberdeen.

Did the TV pundits make an issue of it? Did they say something along the lines of "MacGregor could be in trouble if the Compliance Officer sees it"

ATS? I know he's short on fitness but thought he'd be getting some game time.

Agree now that I too have seen it from behind. However as TV and radio have ignored it, the Compliance Officer won't want to know. TV and Radio pundits act as judge and jury.

He has bèen out injured (training mishap), but should be ok now.

I can't speak for Superward, but if you care to trawl back over this and and the matchday threads you'll pick up many of these "little things". Ok maybe none were gamechangers in themselves, but could have influenced the course of the game. If several more Rangers players had been yellow carded, as they should have been, then that would have influenced their game and desire to compete. MacGregor's elbow on Hartley is an interesting one. On that I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he simply missed it. Referees are only human and in a fast paced game, they'll inevitably make mistakes when making instant decisions. Some incidents will be missed, I get that. However in the case of Thomson yesterday it was his judgement that was consistently inconsistent. He clearly saw what took place in many instances but his decision making was very suspect. To take one minor example. Early in the game he ticked off Carson for timewasting. Yes, the latter was timewasting but I didn't think it was that excessive and he did it just the once. However throughout the second half we had MacGregor blatantly timewasting on several occasions yet Thomson didn't speak to him. Why?