grumpy Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Not a great performance today, but on balance we probably deserved the points (just). Nick Walsh's guessing game performance combined with Livi's determination to avoid playing football dragged the game down to somewhere about meh! The Livi defender completely obscured my view of the penalty decision but it did seem a bit harsh. Likewise, the two yellow cards probably merited one between them. I think Livi might be a bit peeved to say the least. That said, Livi offered pretty much nothing so stuff them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleeastdave Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Excellent three points today but the most pleasing aspect was Stevie’s substitutes as Cornelius and Shields were not only playing well but were getting bullied by the big Livingston defenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Before the game I was worried about Sol, but along with the rest of the defence, didn't give Livi a sniff of a goal. Considering how they tend to thrive off route one, brute force and second balls that was the most pleasing aspect for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudmfc Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Hard t gauge that performance tday,we've won ugly n it was always going t b like that against livi.,3 points will do us nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 That was the first clean sheet in a long time that actually felt deserved. Usually we rely on a save or two, and usually the opposition failing to take a chance, but other than the snap shot from Goncalves late on, they had nothing. We did a great job of not conceding silly fouls in our third, and we handled their physicality like it wasn't a thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, grumpy said: Likewise, the two yellow cards probably merited one between them. I've got a feeling that the refs have been told to crack down on deliberate fouls this year. Quite a few games have been unwatchable recently because teams foul almost every time they lose their shape. It makes for a better product if the game flows and we see some attacking football with ball in play rather than endless free kicks. St Johnstone are by far the worst for it but we were pretty bad under GA and Celtic are incredibly cynical if you look at the high number of fouls they commit despite having 80% possession most games. Lundstrum got sent off today for the same tackle Callum Lang saw red for at Dingwall. It was the correct decision but it needs to be 100% consistent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Certainly a good 3 points to get. Didn’t play as well as last week but as mentioned in other posts we done a great job limiting Livi to really no clear cut chances. Thought our midfield didn’t show for the ball as much as last week and so the football on display not as good as last week. Not entirely unexpected. For 11 men against 10 I thought we could have done a better job of seeing the game out making it a bit easier on the nerves. Effords put in some good work when he came on so seems like Hammy is getting more out of him. All in all a good days work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Just back in from the game in all honesty it was dreadful, Livi had no intention of going forward from the 1st whistle, we had lots of the ball but we are feckin toothless up front we carry no threat at all. That said we got into good positions on a few occasions and probably just shaded the game so a deserved win. We can't rely on dubious penalties to win games we need to sign a goalscorer ASAP , the sending off forced Livi To come out more and we are terrible at seeing games out we defend too deep and let them get into areas of the park they should be nowhere near that late in a game. We are moving in the right direction but we need to create and take more chances up front to keep the momentum going , which for me will be difficult with the current players as I said we need a goalscorer to back up KVV. So a dreadful game football wise but a fantastic result, another 3 points and 3rd place in hhe league, so has to be a good day at the office onwards and upwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, grumpy said: Not a great performance today, but on balance we probably deserved the points (just). Nick Walsh's guessing game performance combined with Livi's determination to avoid playing football dragged the game down to somewhere about meh! The Livi defender completely obscured my view of the penalty decision but it did seem a bit harsh. Likewise, the two yellow cards probably merited one between them. I think Livi might be a bit peeved to say the least. That said, Livi offered pretty much nothing so stuff them. Thought the ref had a very poor game. Since we won it’s not sour grapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, steelboy said: I've got a feeling that the refs have been told to crack down on deliberate fouls this year. Quite a few games have been unwatchable recently because teams foul almost every time they lose their shape. It makes for a better product if the game flows and we see some attacking football with ball in play rather than endless free kicks. St Johnstone are by far the worst for it but we were pretty bad under GA and Celtic are incredibly cynical if you look at the high number of fouls they commit despite having 80% possession most games. Lundstrum got sent off today for the same tackle Callum Lang saw red for at Dingwall. It was the correct decision but it needs to be 100% consistent. I agree, for the first yellow that could be the case, the second yellow, I thought, was just a bit mistimed and probably only warranted a quiet word. 2 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Thought the ref had a very poor game. Since we won it’s not sour grapes Yes, just a typical Scottish refereeing performance in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Well seeing the result has just made my holiday cocktail taste even better.... cheers!!!!!... COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real dosser Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Half time draw numbers anyone????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatsy Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Yodo said: Good three points but 3or 4 quality players still needed as first picks Well surely you know that's not happening what do you mean by quality?. Done well today against a stuffy Livingston, tried to play football without much penetration but 3 points and we move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted August 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 The gaffer says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Coatsy said: Well surely you know that's not happening what do you mean by quality?. Done well today against a stuffy Livingston, tried to play football without much penetration but 3 points and we move on Scott Burns was reporting this week we have the budget to make Snodgrass an offer plus bring in another 3 or 4. By quality I'd say KVV, Watt, Cole, Goss, Lang, McGinn, SOD, Kelly. It's impossible for us to sign decent players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Stonewall penalty on Sportscene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, spudmfc said: Hard t gauge that performance tday,we've won ugly n it was always going t b like that against livi.,3 points will do us nicely We did win ugly I thought we were poor from the half way line forward. Defensively we were sound first game in a long time we never gave the opposition gilt edges chances. A very welcome 3 points and I'm sure SH is well aware of the shortcomings and will work on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Michael Stewart talking about what constitutes a red card or a booking is like asking Gazza about moderate drinking. The guy has one of the worst disciplinary records in Scottish football history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Let's be honest the match was a complete snoozefest, I don't think either goalkeeper actually had a save to make out with the penalty. Still it was important we took points from the easier fixtures at the start of the season.. However, we may have changed manager, formation and style but our lack of creativity in open play is still there for all too see. Agreed. Some are saying we need another striker (and maybe we do) but if we aren’t creating chances it won’t matter how many strikers we have. I felt for KVV today as he again battled manfully up front on nothing but scraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker86 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 A good 3pts. Not a great performance but Livi turn games into a shitfest and even the top two have had their fair struggles against them in recent years. We limited them to nothing and found a way to win despite our attacking limitations. An improvement if you ask me so on to the next one hopefully with a few additions on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Spiderpig said: Just back in from the game in all honesty it was dreadful, Livi had no intention of going forward from the 1st whistle, we had lots of the ball but we are feckin toothless up front we carry no threat at all. That said we got into good positions on a few occasions and probably just shaded the game so a deserved win. We can't rely on dubious penalties to win games we need to sign a goalscorer ASAP , the sending off forced Livi To come out more and we are terrible at seeing games out we defend too deep and let them get into areas of the park they should be nowhere near that late in a game. We are moving in the right direction but we need to create and take more chances up front to keep the momentum going , which for me will be difficult with the current players as I said we need a goalscorer to back up KVV. So a dreadful game football wise but a fantastic result, another 3 points and 3rd place in hhe league, so has to be a good day at the office onwards and upwards. Good post Spider. I thought out of the midfield that started the game young Cornelius was unfortunate to be subbed as he was the only one that got forward in the first half. Lamie’s passing was lamentable but in his defence he was having to be play-maker much of the time as Goss and Slattery went missing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 4 games...9pts....2 clean sheets. You know what, this could be a good season under the hammy revolution ( as Mr and Mrs grizzly have another holiday cocktail) COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: 4 games...9pts....2 clean sheets. You know what, this could be a good season under the hammy revolution ( as Mr and Mrs grizzly have another holiday cocktail) COYW You better watch or you’ll not be fit to type !! ENJOY!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: You better watch or you’ll not be fit to type !! ENJOY!! Cheers pal, to be honest no one would notice any difference, I type enough nonsense when sober,!! Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: You better watch or you’ll not be fit to type !! ENJOY!! But maybe his jokes will get better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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