Villageman Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 agree 100% wit this. Should be out the door by mid day Monday. Cue for " But who are go to get" there is another donkey in the field next to my house, might be an improvement. 9 minutes ago, wellfan said: Where’s his defenders tonight?! He is a terrible football manager. 12 minutes ago, Big Wispy Flossy said: Alexander went after finishing fifth so the precedent has been set. Kettlewell out. That’s worse than Sligo for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, wellfan said: Where’s his supporters tonight?! He is a terrible football manager. I've criticised you frequently for wanting him out, and up till now I was cutting him some slack, with all the injuries we have etc but after today no more we were brutal, big support up and we shat the nest big time. So for me his time is up, he needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 I’ve backed SK to the hilt, even at times when it’s been clear he’s been at fault and also due to the names brought up to replace him……. But I now feel we can’t keep watching this anti-football. I don’t trust him to bring in new players as he’ll still have his favourites being automatic starters. I think time is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Defended him loads even when things were bad but I am sorry....after last season horrendous run when board backed him he has had 2 windows and we have made no progress and a style of football which is terrible. The injuries this season of course haven't helped but his attitude has changed and he seems to love sound of his own voice. Board don't have the guts to make a change but I think it's time to go despite fact we are 5th but that will change very quickly. If we turn it round I promise you I will be first on this forum apologising to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Even if we did punt him, which we won’t, then we’d only end up with Frail or even Richard fucking Foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 8 minutes ago, Villageman said: agree 100% wit this. Should be out the door by mid day Monday. Cue for " But who are go to get" there is another donkey in the field next to my house, might be an improvement. It's not worse than sligo , ga had 2 bites at tge cherry there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Who's out there realistically that would improve us? Just need to look around the country to see all managers are crap according to their fan base. Not that I am saying stick or punt. As I've said before maybe a freshen up of our coaching staff or even an addition. Fresh views are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 The football on display has been brutal to watch over the past few seasons. We have had far too many performances where we haven't laid as much as a glove on the opposition. Today seemed as a predictable result and performance as they come, it's a real shame that almost 2000 fans travelling couldn't motivate the side in any way. I wouldn't shed a tear of he got his jotters but that won't happen He will fluke a win next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Orinoco said: Who's out there realistically that would improve us? Just need to look around the country to see all managers are crap according to their fan base. Not that I am saying stick or punt. As I've said before maybe a freshen up of our coaching staff or even an addition. Fresh views are needed. Pretty sure we could unearth a gem from somewhere that has a plan b if they have that then give them the job right now. Maybe David Healy from Linfeld along those lines who knows but that's where I would be looking should job come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 31 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: I've criticised you frequently for wanting him out, and up till now I was cutting him some slack, with all the injuries we have etc but after today no more we were brutal, big support up and we shat the nest big time. So for me his time is up, he needs to go. Fair play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Sounds like st Johnstone fairly comfortable dealing with long balls. Big changes needed for next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Just now, wellgirl said: I don't think he's going to lose his job unless we end up in the play off spot. You're maybe right there - some fresh ideas. Next week is going to be a massive game for us obviously. I don't think he will lose his job even if we end up in a play off spot tbh.He has so many aces up his sleeve to fall back on saving us from the drop, Bair turn around,injuries,winning at Ibrox and getting us to a semi final. But sometimes things run it's course no matter what's went on and it's starting to look like we need those fresh ideas pronto cause Kettlewell looks out of ideas and has been for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 All those saying next week is massive etc are missing the point. Today was massive. The continual shrug of the shoulders and better-luck-next-time attitude is precisely why donkeys like Kettlewell continue to be safe in their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Made Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Time for him to go. He's on about injuries but even with 3 defenders out we still put out a back 5 that have had enough game time this season. Its not as if he needed to use youngsters to fill the void. The formation was still the same as most of his games in charge and this sitting back and allow teams to have possession is killing us. I can understand it if it's against the Glasgow pair but the rest of the teams in the league we shouldn't be allowing it. So, none of the above was affected by the 9 players being out, we'd have still played the same way I see he is after another striker (despite needing a replacement for McGinn or some steel in the midfield.) The issue doesn't lie with the strikers not getting gaols, it lies with them not getting the service to at least get attempts in to start with. Its always the same excuses after the game but nothing changes. So, yea time to go. The question is who replaces him, on that I am still not sure but one thing I do know is, whoever it is, we don't offer them a new contract after 6 months just because they won a couple of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 SK did himself no favours today. He failed to motivate the players, and set us up all wrong. Did we do any homework on StJohnstone at all? It didn"t seem like it. I'm sticking with him until next Saturday. Another loss though and that's it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 20 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: I don't think he will lose his job even if we end up in a play off spot tbh.He has so many aces up his sleeve to fall back on saving us from the drop, Bair turn around,injuries,winning at Ibrox and getting us to a semi final. But sometimes things run it's course no matter what's went on and it's starting to look like we need those fresh ideas pronto cause Kettlewell looks out of ideas and has been for a while. He can't keep living off the " I signed bair and won at ibrox" as a reason to stick with him. After previous away games and huge support a reaction was expected today and it wasn't. But as I also said....the players need a look at themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villageman Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, wellgirl said: With respect why would him signing Bair - who has moved on keep him at Motherwell if he's not producing the goods. because these are a few of the positives, He ignores the negatives. Reminds me of the persons I dislike most of my life saying goes "Talks a good game" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: He can't keep living off the " I signed bair and won at ibrox" as a reason to stick with him. After previous away games and huge support a reaction was expected today and it wasn't. But as I also said....the players need a look at themselves Oh I totally agree with you sometimes things run it's course and that's where I am with Kettlewell. It just the same stuff over and over nothing I have seen recently tells me anything other it's going to continue to be so poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: Oh I totally agree with you sometimes things run it's course and that's where I am with Kettlewell. It just the same stuff over and over nothing I have seen recently tells me anything other it's going to continue to be so poor. Cheers pal, yup I have backed him loads but enough is enough He wouldn't be out a job for long as his media pals would see him ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Benson Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 As pissed of as everyone else,but the manager ain't going anywhere and imo shouldn't be,financially and at this time of season should be enough for him to continue,his remit every season is to keep us in the league and he is the process of doing even although things can change very quickly,it's stick or twist time with the former the safest option,hopefully we are still spfl end of season and that's when Kettlewell or the board decide the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 11 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I was asking someone why they thought him having signed Bair who has moved on would keep him in a job if we were terrible. I don't see Kettlewell talking about Bair right now I said that and I just mean that if under pressure Kettlewell will throw that fact in. Yes it was a stroke of genius but shouldn't guarantee his job, he needs to turn this round bit I don't have faith in him , but that's just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 🤣🤣🤣who wouldv thought YODO & STEELBOY both right about SK and still in the naughy corner 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Him signing Bair won't guarantee his job - Bair is gone. But I think people need to be realistic. Do folk think we are going to sack a manager at this stage in the season when we are fifth. Irrespective of how badly we are playing just now No. He is going nowhere but he is losing support in each passing week. I was a fan and had backed him loads but not anymore. Also his attitude for me has also changed, is everyone's fault bar his and loves being darling of the media. The recent constant moaning at refs also irritating, yes we have had lots of horrendous decisions but so do other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, wellgirl said: With respect. I disagree. He's got every right to call refs out for bad decisions. And I don't see him as being a darling of the media either. He gets criticism all over social media. I do hope he turns it around but if not I pity the next person who takes the job - he'll get the same treatment in time Not from me, I always give every manager my backing but if it ain't working I will be honest. I certainly like Kettlewell a lot more than Alexander who was just a horrible character in my opinion and treated some players terribly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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