texanwellfan Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 I would start Davor and Gent again and probably Bair alongside Mika. SK must be thinking hard about dropping Kelly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Thought it was a solid if unspectacular first half today, but given our current predicament I was more than happy with it. St Johnstone never troubled us and Kelly had nothing to do. We didnt create any clear cut chances but we definitely threatened their box more than they did ours. Second half turned on that absolute howler from Kelly. Terrible decision from a player whose confidence is clearly rock bottom. Unsurprisingly our heads went down for a period and we could have conceded a second before we steadied the ship. The subs, somewhat surprisingly did make a difference and Bair's cross for the equaliser was excellent. The players are clearly still behind the manager and that might just keep him in a job a while longer. Hopefully he will realise that Gent, and Davor can be trusted and that the goalkeeping position needs looked at. We cant keep gifting teams goals and expect to win football matches. The injuries and suspensions are a concern. We could really do with one or 2 more being available next week. The holding pattern continues....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 PS A word for the ref today? I like a guy who tries to let the game flow and keeps his cards in his pocket, but cheesey peeps! The repetitive fouling and shirt pulling from some of their players was ridiculous! Jayesimi in particular was one of the worst offenders! Hiw he wasnt carded Ive no idea! Rant over....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Thought it was a solid if unspectacular first half today, but given our current predicament I was more than happy with it. St Johnstone never troubled us and Kelly had nothing to do. We didnt create any clear cut chances but we definitely threatened their box more than they did ours. Second half turned on that absolute howler from Kelly. Terrible decision from a player whose confidence is clearly rock bottom. Unsurprisingly our heads went down for a period and we could have conceded a second before we steadied the ship. The subs, somewhat surprisingly did make a difference and Bair's cross for the equaliser was excellent. The players are clearly still behind the manager and that might just keep him in a job a while longer. Hopefully he will realise that Gent, and Davor can be trusted and that the goalkeeping position needs looked at. We cant keep gifting teams goals and expect to win football matches. The injuries and suspensions are a concern. We could really do with one or 2 more being available next week. The holding pattern continues....... Pretty much how I saw it. I have to say that, poor as we are at the moment, I would find it hard watching St Johnstone on a weekly basis: a cynical and musclebound team with zero crativity who look as if they are following the Desperate Dan training programme. They seem to reflect Levein's "values" perfectly. Gent an upgrade today and Davor unexpectedly combative for a tiny guy. It would be sweet to start our revival in Paisley next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: PS A word for the ref today? I like a guy who tries to let the game flow and keeps his cards in his pocket, but cheesey peeps! The repetitive fouling and shirt pulling from some of their players was ridiculous! Jayesimi in particular was one of the worst offenders! Hiw he wasnt carded Ive no idea! Rant over....... what bout phillips ??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, smiddy said: what bout phillips ??????? He probably deserved a booking as well, but Jayesimi was the one that really ripped ma knitting....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 hours ago, MJC said: Dear God I don’t ask for much but please give us a fucking miracle! Shaw on for Obika now too Please try this every week . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted December 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 The gaffer says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie73 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 He has to start the same team against St Midden, but drop Kelly for Oxborough and Obika for big Bair. Davor and Gent were excellent today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Orinoco said: Only 4 mins of extra time, yet again we get screwed, not as it will matter mind you. A draw is probably still not enough. We reckoned 6 or 7 minutes but we're not Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Stevie73 said: He has to start the same team against St Midden, but drop Kelly for Oxborough and Obika for big Bair. Davor and Gent were excellent today. do you think he will stevie ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie73 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, smiddy said: do you think he will stevie ?????? He has to, Kelly is so low in confidence right now and is costing us at least a goal a game, and his distribution is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Stevie73 said: He has to, Kelly is so low in confidence right now and is costing us at least a goal a game, and his distribution is awful. some people think heez undropable. me i think it would shake him up , and as i said b4 if ox isnt up to it then GHTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwell Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Weird one today. I thought we played some decent football at times and seemed much more confident in defence than we have in previous weeks. Delighted that Gent and Davor had strong performances today, Gent should be one of the first names on the team sheet from now on and I’d expect to see Davor feature much more too. The mistake from Kelly at the St Johnstone goal is amateur stuff, really poor and I don’t think Obika offered much - he can hold up the ball pretty well, but that’s it eh? Absolutely murder in front of goal. The goal we score is sublime. When I was leaving today, I heard someone say “they were gutted we scored” and I’ve seen a lot of that on social media and on this thread too. I can’t get my head round that way of thinking. It’s fucking bizarre. when we punted Hammel and Alexander the players had totally downed tools, it seemed hopeless, but I don’t get that feeling with this team. They’re all up for it, I just don’t think the quality is there. There is obviously an argument that much of this team are Kettlewell signings, of course, so do we trust him with the transfer window? I really don’t know. My gut tells me that sacking SK at this stage would be a mistake, but I do think we need to be having a major conversation about how our club is being run from the top. Anyways, had wee Mika at 9/4 anytime goal scorer so I proper fucking enjoyed that one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 We have the bones of a good squad. They're not rubbish as a few have suggested, but SK is not getting the best out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwell Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: We have the bones of a good squad. They're not rubbish as a few have suggested, but SK is not getting the best out of them. What do you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jastons Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: We have the bones of a good squad. They're not rubbish as a few have suggested, but SK is not getting the best out of them. I'm repeating myself but he doesn't know his best team . Injuries and suspensions haven't helped. Hopefully Davor keeps his place, he showed more today than Paton has. Gent was our best player first half. We need to work on moving the ball quicker and getting it out wide . Kelly takes an age and so does whoever is taking a throw in. A settled side would do wonders. Get the ball out wide and into the box . If the players know a cross is coming then will be more confident and committed in getting forwards. Mika has great pace and works hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie73 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, Tamwell said: Weird one today. I thought we played some decent football at times and seemed much more confident in defence than we have in previous weeks. Delighted that Gent and Davor had strong performances today, Gent should be one of the first names on the team sheet from now on and I’d expect to see Davor feature much more too. The mistake from Kelly at the St Johnstone goal is amateur stuff, really poor and I don’t think Obika offered much - he can hold up the ball pretty well, but that’s it eh? Absolutely murder in front of goal. The goal we score is sublime. When I was leaving today, I heard someone say “they were gutted we scored” and I’ve seen a lot of that on social media and on this thread too. I can’t get my head round that way of thinking. It’s fucking bizarre. when we punted Hammel and Alexander the players had totally downed tools, it seemed hopeless, but I don’t get that feeling with this team. They’re all up for it, I just don’t think the quality is there. There is obviously an argument that much of this team are Kettlewell signings, of course, so do we trust him with the transfer window? I really don’t know. My gut tells me that sacking SK at this stage would be a mistake, but I do think we need to be having a major conversation about how our club is being run from the top. Anyways, had wee Mika at 9/4 anytime goal scorer so I proper fucking enjoyed that one. Gent and Davor have to keep their places, Davor looks like a moaning wee Dick which is great, good to see someone who cares on the park, think SK needs backing at the window, we need a strong commanding CB and a proven forward, Oli Shaw and Pape can head home in January. Do we take a chance on Moult ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Stevie73 said: Gent and Davor have to keep their places, Davor looks like a moaning wee Dick which is great, good to see someone who cares on the park, think SK needs backing at the window, we need a strong commanding CB and a proven forward, Oli Shaw and Pape can head home in January. Do we take a chance on Moult ?? I thought Zdravkoski had a cut of Jamie Dolan about him, appearance wise, at least. No way Dundee Utd are selling Moult in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Tamwell said: What do you suggest? A change of manager pdq. I like SK and he's articulate but our results speak for themselves. We're far from being down and out and there's plenty of time to change things but the current run is relegation form. There's little sign he can turn things around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwell Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: A change of manager pdq. I like SK and he's articulate but our results speak for themselves. We're far from being down and out and there's plenty of time to change things but the current run is relegation form. There's little sign he can turn things around. I just wonder if changing the manager again is the answer? I know I’m in the minority with this at this point though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwell Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Stevie73 said: Gent and Davor have to keep their places, Davor looks like a moaning wee Dick which is great, good to see someone who cares on the park, think SK needs backing at the window, we need a strong commanding CB and a proven forward, Oli Shaw and Pape can head home in January. Do we take a chance on Moult ?? Certainly a fit Moult would be immense. I think that ship has sailed though, could we really take a chance on old chocolate knees? He’s probably on a fair wedge at united too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Honestly, regardless of how good or bad the Ox is...... what is the point of paying real money on a back up keeper if he cant put pressure on the number 1?? Kelly has been poor for months. His position should be up for grabs. Why the other lad has not been given a chance is beyond me. The other point is, he is out of contract in the summer. Why would he re-sign if he has spent a year & a half watching a diddy in front of him & not getting a chance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Stevie73 said: Gent and Davor have to keep their places, Davor looks like a moaning wee Dick which is great, good to see someone who cares on the park, think SK needs backing at the window, we need a strong commanding CB and a proven forward, Oli Shaw and Pape can head home in January. Do we take a chance on Moult ?? Scoring goals is not our problem. Even if it was, why would dundee utd sell moult to us? Literally give firepower to potential playoff oponents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Another late rescue point but we need wins. Gent and Davor done well today and I thought Shaw and the Bair done well when they came on. Spencer and Spittal brutal today but the lads kept battling but we need big improvement for next week and sorry but Kelly needs dropped, confidence totally gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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