Hearts v Motherwell 17/02/2024

[Derek1962]

We need to support everyone at Motherwell Football Club. 
The manager is relatively inexperienced and learning on the job in testing circumstances and lots of pressure. 
The goalkeepers form recently is questionable however he has made excellent stops previously and managed to get himself international recognition at MFC. 
Sod Butcher McGinn and Mugaba have all made mistakes which have lost the team goals. 
Lennon and Davour are in there first season and will make mistakes. 
Bair wasn’t anyone’s choice as a signing. 
 All of the above respond much better with the support of the fans. I know that’s difficult at times however we should remember it’s the football club we support. 
Can we win at Tynecastle tomorrow? Yes we can!

[grizzlyg]

9 minutes ago, Derek1962 said:

We need to support everyone at Motherwell Football Club. 
The manager is relatively inexperienced and learning on the job in testing circumstances and lots of pressure. 
The goalkeepers form recently is questionable however he has made excellent stops previously and managed to get himself international recognition at MFC. 
Sod Butcher McGinn and Mugaba have all made mistakes which have lost the team goals. 
Lennon and Davour are in there first season and will make mistakes. 
Bair wasn’t anyone’s choice as a signing. 
 All of the above respond much better with the support of the fans. I know that’s difficult at times however we should remember it’s the football club we support. 
Can we win at Tynecastle tomorrow? Yes we can!

Well said.   I have on many occasions said that booing players isn't going to help their confidence.

The Bair is prime example of what confidence can do to a player 

[Derek1962]

Indeed.
It could spread throughout the team. 
We shouldn’t forget the positive power the supporters can bring to the club and games
SK and his players will keep Motherwell a premier league club and then the supporters can decide where we go from there. 
Right now get behind the effort, the positive play the goals. 
COYW

[David]

10 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

I actually don't think he said anything that controversial

For some, Kettlewell still being Motherwell manager is in itself controversial. 

[well_said]

2 hours ago, wellfan said:

He should also explain why he hooks Davor and not Paton in certain games. 

I think we all know the answer to that.

[David]

Does any other manager provide full explanations and justifications as to why they substitute certain players in games? Or start with certain players over others?

[wellfan]

39 minutes ago, well_said said:

I think we all know the answer to that.

15 minutes ago, David said:

Does any other manager provide full explanations and justifications as to why they substitute certain players in games? Or start with certain players over others?

I was being sarcastic. Paton is his wee pal. 

[David]

17 minutes ago, wellfan said:

I was being sarcastic. Paton is his wee pal. 

You think he keeps Paton in games because he is "his wee pal?"

[bobbybingo]

4 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

I actually remember someone elsewhere on social media wanting the club to arrange a meeting with Graham Alexander and fans so that he could justify to the fans his team selections. 

Yeah, that was Tom Bola.

[grizzlyg]

41 minutes ago, wellfan said:

I was being sarcastic. Paton is his wee pal. 

I like Paton. Gets a hard press at times but never hides and puts in plenty of effort.  However once Halliday fit then I would expect him to drop out as Davor Spittal and Miller ahead of him in my opinion

[texanwellfan]

7 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

Yeah, that was Tom Bola.

From Craiglang? 

[well_said]

10 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

I like Paton. Gets a hard press at times but never hides and puts in plenty of effort.  However once Halliday fit then I would expect him to drop out as Davor Spittal and Miller ahead of him in my opinion

I also like Paton , but he seems untouchable at the moment. We will just to wait and see when all our midfield players are fit and available.

[star sail]

2 hours ago, David said:

For some, Kettlewell still being Motherwell manager is in itself controversial. 

With Motherwell only a couple of points off of Top 6 and on a shoe string budget, it is controversial that there is any controversy. 

How's this for some real controversy. Motherwell are going to win this one. I can feel it!!

 

[grizzlyg]

1 minute ago, star sail said:

With Motherwell only a couple of points off of Top 6 and on a shoe string budget, it is controversial that there is any controversy. 

How's this for some real controversy. Motherwell are going to win this one. I can feel it!!

 

There is absolutely no need for such a positive attitude.   Shame on you!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[yosemite sam]

Unfortunately Paton thinks he's better than he is, and he tries to beat men he hasn't got the ability to beat. If he just kept it simple and passed to a team mate earlier, he would be a better player in my opinion.

[bobbybingo]

1 hour ago, texanwellfan said:

From Craiglang? 

If Taylor doesn't cough up some cash, send the 2 wee guys door to door.

[GazzyB]

Paton is an okay midfielder without really specialising in anything. He doesn't do the dirty dogged midfield work, he doesn't play defence splitting passes, he doesn't carry the ball particularly well, and his finishing is poor. He's missed some chances in the past month or two that Spittal would devour.

 

He's decent and tidy and links the play, but that's about it.

[Mad Dog]

33 minutes ago, GazzyB said:

He's decent and tidy and links the play, but that's about it.

Surely that's enough? As long as he does those things and keeps it simple, the other midfielders can try all of the fancy stuff.

[gaz7]

1 hour ago, GazzyB said:

Paton is an okay midfielder without really specialising in anything. He doesn't do the dirty dogged midfield work, he doesn't play defence splitting passes, he doesn't carry the ball particularly well, and his finishing is poor. He's missed some chances in the past month or two that Spittal would devour.

 

He's decent and tidy and links the play, but that's about it.

I see where your coming from but I do feel he can do all the things you say he can't , however he doesn't do it often enough hence he's at us.  All about opinions as always  but a cracker I read on twitter today a well fan saying he'd drop spittall tomorrow. I mean he's easily our best player and I think anyone can see he's playing with a huge level of confidence at the moment. Some of his 1 touch pass and move is exceptional. Also Bair on Wed was rolling his foot over ball etc again confidence surging through him. It's a huge plus in players and emphasises points a lot make about being supportive. 

[gaz7]

2 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

I like Paton. Gets a hard press at times but never hides and puts in plenty of effort.  However once Halliday fit then I would expect him to drop out as Davor Spittal and Miller ahead of him in my opinion

I'm with you Grizzly but I'd have halliday and miller sitting with Spittal and vale behind bair. Vale looks as if he's got something. Davor and paton as back up gives us bit of depth in there. 

[grizzlyg]

Spittal is another under valued.  Now yes I gave him dogs abuse at Alloa game due to his corners being poor but his assists and goals record superb.   We all have our favourite players and ones we like to criticise, as long as it's done in the right manner it's all healthy

Let's do this tomorrow

COYW

[joewarkfanclub]

47 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Spittal is another under valued.  Now yes I gave him dogs abuse at Alloa game due to his corners being poor but his assists and goals record superb.   We all have our favourite players and ones we like to criticise, as long as it's done in the right manner it's all healthy

Let's do this tomorrow

COYW

His corners were (shiter than normal) in the Alloa game though! 

[GazzyB]

1 hour ago, Mad Dog said:

Surely that's enough? As long as he does those things and keeps it simple, the other midfielders can try all of the fancy stuff.

Yeah absolutely enough, if he could carry the ball and finish he'd be somewhere other than Motherwell.

51 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Spittal is another under valued.  Now yes I gave him dogs abuse at Alloa game due to his corners being poor but his assists and goals record superb.   We all have our favourite players and ones we like to criticise, as long as it's done in the right manner it's all healthy

Let's do this tomorrow

COYW

You regularly tell people not to boo players (which I agree with), I don't see how happily admitting you give Spittal dogs abuse is any better.

[grizzlyg]

1 minute ago, GazzyB said:

Yeah absolutely enough, if he could carry the ball and finish he'd be somewhere other than Motherwell.

You regularly tell people not to boo players (which I agree with), I don't see how happily admitting you give Spittal dogs abuse is any better.

I probably worded it badly, I wasn't giving him dogs abuse. Just pelters due to his corners being poor. Don't worry Karma came back to bite me when he scored that free kick 😜😜

[Stuwell2]

14 minutes ago, Wee Dougie said:

 Mcginn hasn't been settling the heather on fire on the left. 

I think that Gent has been better with McGinn on the left. I also think he gets up the park in support better than Casey. 
 

Regarding SOD, totally agree.