AllyMax Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 1 minute ago, Fairhill said: I keep watching goal difference, and ours should be better, it is at mid-league level. Suely the forward line is more where the problem lies. I'm not defending the back, but a few more goals for would have made a bigger difference. We're equal third top scorers in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 20 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: We are such a frustrating team to watch. We do so many good things in a game and then feck it up by doing some really stupid shit. We defended well as a team today for tge most part. Hearts have some gifted players and we kept our discipline well and made them play round about us. The only save Kelly had to make in the first half was McGinns header which he was trying to deflect over the bar. Second half we started really smartly on the front foot and put them under a fair bit of pressure. There were a fair few chances to get the ball in the net but we couldnt take any of them. Ultimately we paid for that. Hearts made some positive changes. Vargas being the pick of the bunch. He looks a dangerous player. That said the first goal is typical of our season. Straightforward free kick and we let the best striker in the league get a free header at it. I like Mugabi, but his one job in the team is to win headers and he let Shankland get the better if him. The second goal is a sucker punch in injury time. We were throwing everyone (even Mugabi) forward. Thought SODs was pushed in the back in the run up. Maybe he should be stronger, but Decine got given a foul against seconds earlier for literally nothing. There is no consistency with these things and it makes a mockery of VAR. Overall, decent performance at a difficult venue. Spittal would have made a difference. Hope whatever his issue is it isnt serious and we see him next week. We will need him. Not sure what more SK can do about our defending. Team were clearly well drilled today on their gameplan but individual errors keep costing us. Just need to tough it out until the summer until we can change personnel. Mugabi , should be one of a few shown the door in the summer. He's had tons chances to improve and he makes the same basic error now he did three years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 I’m assuming Gent was injured when he came off as he walked straight down the tunnel with what looked like a bag of ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 7 minutes ago, AllyMax said: We're equal third top scorers in the league. Yes, our main issue is basic defensive errors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 8 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said: I’m assuming Gent was injured when he came off as he walked straight down the tunnel with what looked like a bag of ice. Baileys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 I wasn’t really expecting us to win today however I thought we played very well in the first half and managed to nullify them as an attacking force to the extent that they were forced into changing formation and shape for the second half. However I felt we never offered very much ourselves as an attacking force and it looked as though Kettlewell had set his stall out for a draw. They never managed to cut us open from open play and on the rare occasions when we got on the front foot their defence looked very ordinary but we lacked the quality and composure needed to take advantage. Sadly the two goals we lost were yet again quite soft from a defensive point of view. However we are 7 points clear of Ross County and 10 clear of Livingston and if we can beat Livingston at the end of the month then I think we’ll be okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 10 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Mugabi , should be one of a few shown the door in the summer. He's had tons chances to improve and he makes the same basic error now he did three years ago. As others have said, I could just about live with him as back-up, but he can't be considered a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: As others have said, I could just about live with him as back-up, but he can't be considered a starter. So with our current players what’s our starting back 3? SOD Casey McGinn ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: As others have said, I could just about live with him as back-up, but he can't be considered a starter. Apart from the goal - and I’m not defending him at that as I’ve still to see it properly - I thought he didn’t do too badly today. He cleared most of the crosses put into the box. Most, if not all the guy’s we can afford will have faults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 33 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: good summary as always . Re your who we solve the defence. I thought Casey made a difference and would keep him in the team. The simple answer is drop Mugabi. Neither Butcher or Mugabi would be in my first 11. Agreed. Casey was back to last seasons level instead of the mistake ridden version of this season. Much better player when he keeps it simple and just defends. Was actually very unlucky with his speculative shot in the first half. Keeper did well as it was swerving all over the place! Id have Mugabi as a back up but we cant keep him, Butcher, SOD and McGinn as they cant all play and we need some upgrades. Personally Id let him and Butcher go and keep SOD & McGinn as they can play more than one position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 I’m hoping Gent’s injury is not too serious. Not sure what happened to him. Seemed to be fine then off he goes and down the tunnel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: So with our current players what’s our starting back 3? SOD Casey McGinn ?? I was replying to a comment about going into next season. You have to hope we can improve things defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 7 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said: Apart from the goal - and I’m not defending him at that as I’ve still to see it properly - I thought he didn’t do too badly today. He cleared most of the crosses put into the box. Most, if not all the guy’s we can afford will have faults. I know, and I don't expect perfection, or anywhere near it. I just think he looks unlikely to improve beyond where he is now and his wee errors have been costly too often, so we'd need to see if another guy would be more reliable. I like the guy, he's a trier and not the worst you'll see, but it might just be time for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 9 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: So with our current players what’s our starting back 3? SOD Casey McGinn ?? Thats a tough call. Mugabi is in for headers as Kelly wont come off his line. But that didnt work out for us today. Butcher looks broken, so I think reluctantly I would go McGinn Casey Blaney or SOD McGinn Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Forgot about Blaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Personal view - we don’t have 3 good enough and would be tempted to go back to a flat back 4 we went to a back 3 to solve a problem over a year ago - that problem may no longer exist as we have a much stronger midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 For all the doom and gloom that is actually our first league defeat since Christmas eve home to rangers. Had w2 D4 since then . Not too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: Personal view - we don’t have 3 good enough and would be tempted to go back to a flat back 4 we went to a back 3 to solve a problem over a year ago - that problem may no longer exist as we have a much stronger midfield Though 2 wins in 21 also not great reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 17 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Though 2 wins in 21 also not great reading. It's five in 25 I believe and no not great reading but we've won five Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Never saw game but looking at screen shots on BBC website it looks like Bevis nowhere near Shankland for 1st goal. He is a big loveable guy but he always has a mistake in him and switches off far too often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Just now, wellgirl said: It's five in 25 I believe and no not great reading but we've won five Yup 5 wins all season in league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 42 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said: Apart from the goal - and I’m not defending him at that as I’ve still to see it properly - I thought he didn’t do too badly today. He cleared most of the crosses put into the box. Most, if not all the guy’s we can afford will have faults. Every player we ever have will have faults , it's the consistency with which they display those faults that determine whether they are any good for us and for me Mugabi makes too many basic errors. He's not alone we have quite a few we should be looking to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Just now, grizzlyg said: Yup 5 wins all season in league Sorry it's five in 26. Yeah the draws are killing us but I honestly can't be bothered right now. I'm really sorry for the folk paying every week particularly away games to see us lose but if we need to stutter our way over the line so be it. And if we go down we go down. I hope we won't but I'll support the team no matter. It's out of my control. All I can do is back the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Mugabi has proved time and time again that he just can’t be relied upon. His concentration and position sense are woeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Sorry it's five in 26. Yeah the draws are killing us but I honestly can't be bothered right now. I'm really sorry for the folk paying every week particularly away games to see us lose but if we need to stutter our way over the line so be it. And if we go down we go down. I hope we won't but I'll support the team no matter. It's out of my control. All I can do is back the team We will be fine this season, trust me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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