Motherwell v Celtic 28/10/2024

[Benson]

1 minute ago, mfc said:

Our midfield gives me the utter fear,miller aside there's nothing there,there's no pace or ability to go and press the opposition,to have davor and halliday in the team at the same time is criminal,we can talk about injuries but let's be honest the likes of callaghan and paton aren't any better.the game last week showed our midfield up for what it is rather than today and it's only going to get worse the more games we play,halliday is done and davor is someone that will be playing at the likes of accies or morton before to long.

Agree and tony is done aswell.

[mfc]

2 minutes ago, Benson said:

Agree and tony is done aswell.

Aye watt should be left at tannadice during the coming week and told not to come back.

[mfc]

2 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

I think Paton is better and hopefully Slattery will do ok when he comes back 

Slattery would be a better option than halliday or davor,the issue is how long it will take him to get upto speed and into the first team,I'm of the thinking that if we get anything out of slattery this season it will be a bonus.

[Spiderpig]

1 hour ago, Richie said:

Aye, I'm struggling with Robinson a bit now and Watt has been pretty much an empty jersey thus far.

 

Robinson is brutal offers feck all and should be nowhere near the team, For me Stama and Ebiye are our most likely front pairing to score.

[Benson]

26 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

Good first 20 minutes, we should have taken the lead but we didn't and looked burst afterwards sitting way too deep. 

Our strikers were 35 yards from our goal line and Celtic's centre halves were sitting 10 yards in our half. 

You just can't play like that against Celtic as their players will always be better at one-twos, making little triangles, passing, winning the ball and finding space in tight situations.  It's only a matter of time.  You actually need to play a more expansive type of football and we didn't, at least after those first 20 minutes.

First two Celtic goals came from us back pedalling far too much when we should have defended much higher up the pitch.

At 2-0 it was game over and basically a training match.

I assume as it went to VAR it was a red card but I didn't see anything in it from where I was.

Overall a match were Celtic's overall quality, at least in a Scottish context, was clear.  With the exception of Lennon Miller none of our players get close to theirs but I still would like to see a more positive attitude in general. 

When we are on the ball we should be seeing multiple players automatically making runs into the box and it's like maybe one will go, or maybe not.

I understand that physically, mentally, technically we don't have top level players but I'd still like to see more attacking intent.

Defences are poor in this league, that's including Celtic's, and if you can get that right you'll carry a big threat.

Unfortunately we aren't and it's mostly tactically and systemic rather than the actual players.

Defences are poor in this league, bang on the money and when you do attack you have one or 2 players in the box,expecting to win games on set pieces  will never work.midfields a big problem no creativity or energy.

[texanwellfan]

Positives today were Kaleta, Stam and Sparrow getting extended playing time. Thought all 3 showed up well and hopefully start again against Utd. 

[ropy]

3 hours ago, texanwellfan said:

Decent half although Celtic had more control after they scored.  Bit unlucky hitting the wood work a couple of times. Did ref give a Free kick to Celtic after Miller hit the bar? I noticed he touched the rebound first but can’t recall if ref penalized that or not. 

He gave an indirect free kick for the second touch.

[ropy]

2 hours ago, bobbybingo said:

Wilson's had a really poor game.

I thought he had a good game and was under used, especially by the keeper.

[Yodo]

As usual Slattery has become a better player the longer he is out 

[Welly Machine]

Needed everybody playing well, them not and a bit of luck but got none of that.

Pretty decent start to the game would have been interesting to see how things would have gone with even one of Miller's attempts in the first 10 minutes going in.

Gordon's tackle at the end looked from the Cooper just a standard late challenge booking but Sportsound saying it was a bad one. Could really bite us if it was, not seen it back.

[Spit_It_Out]

This one up front running about with the other players about 30 yards from him is not working it s a waste of a guy like Stam who could probably put the ball in the net regular if he had someone playing right beside him.

Kaleta needs to be playing from the start its a waste of a player him sitting on the bench week in week out or next to no game time.

Wilson might need to be dropped just to give him rest looked like he was totally flagging today he hasnt played badly just needs a game off maybe.

Lennon Miller is such a baller simply as that!

 

 

 

[SteelmaninOZ]

The gaffer said 

 

[MJC]

29 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

As are lots of people 

Of course. But Steelboy seems to be fair game for a lot of posters on here and that’s why I’m highlighting this.

I don’t agree with everything he says and sometimes I even think he can be a bit harsh on certain players and coaching staff but he clearly loves the club and wants the best for us. 
 

Suggesting that because  “he’s constantly criticising players and management” (which isn’t accurate) suggests that he doesn’t support the club or supports someone else is absolute nonsense. He is clearly very passionate about the club and wants us to succeed as much as we can.

It appears though that it’s been ‘decided’ that he’s the main villain on here and anything he says is fair game to be pounced upon. 

[wellon]

1 hour ago, mfc said:

Our midfield gives me the utter fear,miller aside there's nothing there,there's no pace or ability to go and press the opposition,to have davor and halliday in the team at the same time is criminal,we can talk about injuries but let's be honest the likes of callaghan and paton aren't any better.the game last week showed our midfield up for what it is rather than today and it's only going to get worse the more games we play,halliday is done and davor is someone that will be playing at the likes of accies or morton before to long.

Got yo hope when callachan,  slattery,  paton and Nicholson are back, one of them displaces davor , offers nothing 

[steelboy]

Gordon's tackle is identical to the one Greg Taylor put on Spittal 12 months ago that was only a yellow. 

Gordon is bottom six average anyway. Not a huge miss. 

[Kmcalpin]

19 minutes ago, wellon said:

Got yo hope when callachan,  slattery,  paton and Nicholson are back, one of them displaces davor , offers nothing 

The problem is that none of them are defensive players. Davor is the kind of player we need but just isn't up to the required standard. An honest trier though. 

[grizzlyg]

A great 20 mins and if we scored would have made a difference.  However once behind only one outcome.    Not seen red card but heard was shocker so bad decision by gordon.  Keep the heid up folks

[MJC]

3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

A great 20 mins and if we scored would have made a difference.  However once behind only one outcome.    Not seen red card but heard was shocker so bad decision by gordon.  Keep the heid up folks

A very good summary of the game. 

[SteelmaninOZ]

8 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

A great 20 mins and if we scored would have made a difference.  However once behind only one outcome.    Not seen red card but heard was shocker so bad decision by gordon.  Keep the heid up folks

Spot on pal 🥃

COYW

[steelman1991]

2 hours ago, ropy said:

He gave an indirect free kick for the second touch.

Why? - Genuine question.

[Kmcalpin]

2 hours ago, Spit_It_Out said:

This one up front running about with the other players about 30 yards from him is not working it s a waste of a guy like Stam who could probably put the ball in the net regular if he had someone playing right beside him.

You're on the money. Stam looks to be a player but not in this role. We don't have a player on our books who can play as a lone striker. That points to a recruitment failure last summer. Line up needs tweaking. 

 

[pretzel]

I thought we came out the traps flying, pressing them and it was nice to see them start nervy with a few mistakes. Shame Stama couldn't get the ball out of under his feet to score from Scales error but Miller was unfortunate his effort cracked the post. His free kick was tremendous but a shame it wasn't a foot lower, early days in the game but you start to think it's not your day. We seemed to restrict them to very little in the first half but they got the vital goal. 

I love watching Scottish football but it's really depressing to think no one can really lay a glove on a team with Liam Scales and Auston Trusty as a centre back partnership, a guy who was part of one of the worst defenses in EPL history. 

[Richie]

1 hour ago, steelman1991 said:

Why? - Genuine question.

He essentially hit the free kick to himself.

No-one else touched the ball between  him hitting it and it rebounding back to him.

[ropy]

1 hour ago, steelman1991 said:

Why? - Genuine question.

It’s the same as hitting a penalty off the post, you can’t play it again, someone else has to touch it.

[joewarkfanclub]

Thought the first half was very good but you have to put your chances away against Celtic otherwise its gonna come back to bite you.

McCowan got the break of the ball for his goal with the ricochet, but it was poor defending from us after that as we backed off and let him hit it, instead of closing him down.

Second half we started well enough but the second goal kills us.

Not sure about the substitutions. Ultimately everyone got on, just not sure I would have put them on in that order.

Stama is a huge upgrade on Robinson.

Sparrow provided great energy and Kaleta was impressive going forward until he got injured.

Some of Lennon Millers passes were ridiculously good. Unfortunately we never capitalised.

Not a surprise to lose the game. Celtic are a much better team than us, with infinitely greater resources.

Wednesday could be tough with Gordon and probably Kaleta both out. But saw enough today to feel positively about the semi final on Sunday......