2025/26 Ins & Outs Discussion

[joewarkfanclub]

11 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Not a fan of these clauses that enables players to sign on again after poor season. 

Me neither. But I guess its a way around getting the player to sign a 1 year deal if they are looking for more security.

I wouldnt imagine for a minute the club or SK would have thought that SOD was likely to hit the 30 game mark or whatever it was, with all the options open to us at RB/RCB, but the number of injuries we picked up ultimately meant he had to play.

I think we all agree that McGinn is the better player and more reliable performer of the 2, but his injury record raises more concerns for me at offering him a new deal after SODs was activated.

In an ideal world Id keep McGinn and move SODs on. But thats not how it has played out.

[joewarkfanclub]

1 minute ago, David said:

It’s worth remembering that football clubs, like any organisation, need to deal with sensitive matters in a professional way.

There’s a difference between being open and overstepping the mark. Revealing why someone stepped down, how long it was known internally, or the status of an assistant manager before anything has been confirmed isn’t just unwise — it’s genuinely unprofessional. It risks damaging relationships and can make it harder to bring in the right people further down the line.

Supporters have every right to expect honesty. But they also deserve a club that handles its business with care and integrity, even when not everything can be shared straight away.

Exactly this.

[Spiderpig]

13 minutes ago, David said:

It’s worth remembering that football clubs, like any organisation, need to deal with sensitive matters in a professional way.

Enlighten me wtf is sensitive about the club confirming that a current club employee is still employed at the club?

 

[weeyin]

14 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Enlighten me wtf is sensitive about the club confirming that a current club employee is still employed at the club?

 

They are usually split into:

Leaving after contract expired

Leaving after contract terminated

Staying because they are under contract

Leaving, but offered a new deal

Transfer agreed.

Under the current circumstances, it's possible one or more of those categories has not been fully decided or communicated, so they could be waiting until all that business is done before announcing them all.

[David]

34 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Enlighten me wtf is sensitive about the club confirming that a current club employee is still employed at the club?

The last I heard, both Ahmet and Wimmer left Scotland on the Monday after our final match, likely heading off on holiday or spending time with their families. It’s possible the club simply haven’t had the opportunity to speak with him in detail yet. Or perhaps those conversations are just getting underway and nothing has been finalised.

The club aren’t obliged to share anything publicly at this stage. I’m sure once there’s a clear decision between the club and the individual, we’ll all be informed.

[unknown]

 

[Kmcalpin]

1 hour ago, David said:

It’s worth remembering that football clubs, like any organisation, need to deal with sensitive matters in a professional way.

There’s a difference between being open and overstepping the mark. Revealing why someone stepped down, how long it was known internally, or the status of an assistant manager before anything has been confirmed isn’t just unwise, it’s genuinely unprofessional. It risks damaging relationships and can make it harder to bring in the right people further down the line.

Supporters have every right to expect honesty. But they also deserve a club that handles its business with care and integrity, even when not everything can be shared straight away.

Some overlap with the managerial thread. Not sure I wholly agree David. We're a fan owned club and should be kept informed of what is going on. Again I'm not advocating a blow by blow account of everything thats unfolding;thats clearly unreasonable. However its not unreasonable to be told if anyone is in charge, even temporarily, of the playing side. 

The club clearly reads this forum as Kyrk MacMillan's recently released interview answers most if not all of our questions.  Having listened to it, I'm now pretty much up to date with what is going on. He's given us the necessary information in an open way, whilst still being professional. Thats all many of us asked.   

[weeyin]

Good idea extending the early bird season ticket pricing so fans can see who the new gaffer will be.

[wellon]

42 minutes ago, unknown said:

 

Really good interview,  gives me faith we are in good hands.

[jim64]

2 hours ago, robsterwood said:

Surprised he was allowed to sign on Halliday and O'Donnell too as new manager may not rate them . Think possibly due diligence not done and amateurs running the club.

O’Donnell invoked his further years clause allegedly 

[FirParkCornerExile]

44 minutes ago, weeyin said:

Good idea extending the early bird season ticket pricing so fans can see who the new gaffer will be.

if anyone bases their purchase of a season ticket on who the manager will be they need to take a good look at themselves .

 

There are many good reason why people might not buy a Season Ticket

Cost, Family Commitments, Work Commitments al perfectly acceptable but who the manager is ? nah no having it.  

[wellgirl]

3 hours ago, robsterwood said:

Surprised he was allowed to sign on Halliday and O'Donnell too as new manager may not rate them . Think possibly due diligence not done and amateurs running the club.

Pretty sure O'Donnell had a contract clause where there was an option that was triggered and also sure Halliday signed on again before Wimmer made the decision to go. 

[wellgirl]

1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:

Some overlap with the managerial thread. Not sure I wholly agree David. We're a fan owned club and should be kept informed of what is going on. Again I'm not advocating a blow by blow account of everything thats unfolding;thats clearly unreasonable. However its not unreasonable to be told if anyone is in charge, even temporarily, of the playing side. 

The club clearly reads this forum as Kyrk MacMillan's recently released interview answers most if not all of our questions.  Having listened to it, I'm now pretty much up to date with what is going on. He's given us the necessary information in an open way, whilst still being professional. Thats all many of us asked.   

To be fair though Wimmer only left on Friday. He couldn't really have given the update sooner particularly if the club was closed yesterday for the bank holiday. I do agree that supporters should be kept in the loop but that's not a bad timescale for putting out the facts in my view. Particularly as they couldn't say anything until Wimmer left 

[David]

1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:

Some overlap with the managerial thread. Not sure I wholly agree David. We're a fan owned club and should be kept informed of what is going on. Again I'm not advocating a blow by blow account of everything thats unfolding;thats clearly unreasonable. However its not unreasonable to be told if anyone is in charge, even temporarily, of the playing side. 

The club clearly reads this forum as Kyrk MacMillan's recently released interview answers most if not all of our questions.  Having listened to it, I'm now pretty much up to date with what is going on. He's given us the necessary information in an open way, whilst still being professional. Thats all many of us asked.   

We may be a fan-owned club, but that doesn't change my post. There's information that simply can't be divulged to the public, even if that public includes Well Society members. There are processes in place for a reason.

I would think that the interview with Kyrk was planned for such a time as more details had been ironed out with Ahmet, and most likely not because he was reading SO during his lunch break today and decided to get an impromptu video recorded! 

[wellfan]

1 hour ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

There are many good reason why people might not buy a Season Ticket

VAR ruining the matchday experience for longterm season ticket holders is likely a main reason.

[joewarkfanclub]

3 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

if anyone bases their purchase of a season ticket on who the manager will be they need to take a good look at themselves .

 

There are many good reason why people might not buy a Season Ticket

Cost, Family Commitments, Work Commitments al perfectly acceptable but who the manager is ? nah no having it.  

Mmmm. If it was still Kettlewell and we had scraped back into the top flight via the play offs?

I agree though, any new manager offers hope, so the prospect of not knowing who the appointment is, probably shouldnt be a factor.

[FirParkCornerExile]

44 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Mmmm. If it was still Kettlewell and we had scraped back into the top flight via the play offs?

I agree though, any new manager offers hope, so the prospect of not knowing who the appointment is, probably shouldnt be a factor.

Managers are transient the club is your club forever.  

[joewarkfanclub]

2 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Managers are transient the club is your club forever.  

Aye. I understand the premise.

But I can show the board that I dont like said manager by witholding my season ticket money and paying at the gate as I see fit.

Was just saying that having no manager in place isnt really the same thing as having one you have had enough of.....

[weeyin]

1 hour ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Managers are transient the club is your club forever.  

Unless it's Airdrie, Clydebank, Airdrie United, Airdrie.

[wellfan]

The GTF list is here:

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2025/05/28/2024-25-end-of-season-squad-update/

[thewelllfan]

Squad update out

Squad for next season

• Aston Oxborough. Calum Ward
• Stephen O’Donnell, Liam Gordon, Kofi Balmer, Paul McGinn, Johnny Koutroumbis, Ewan Wilson
• Tom Sparrow, Callum Slattery, Andy Halliday, Lennon Miller, Dylan Wells, Lukas Fadinger (Summer signing 2025), Olly Whyte
• Luca Ross, Tawanda Maswanhise, Sam Nicholson
• Zach Robinson, Apostolos Stamatelopoulos, Filip Stuparevic

Players in contract talks Dan Casey, Steve Seddon and Harry Paton, Moses Ebiye, Dom Thompson, Davor Zdravowski

[Yabba's Turd]

Paton likely to end up at Killie?

[thewelllfan]

12 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said:

Paton likely to end up at Killie?

You would think so but I guess it will depend on our new manager,

Of the 6 Seddon is the 1 I'd want to keep.

[robsterwood]

Would keep Dom Thompson and Seddon.

They both shown enough for me 

[stv]

1 minute ago, robsterwood said:

Would keep Dom Thompson and Seddon.

They both shown enough for me 

Casey if agreeable always gives 100% and scores a few.