2025/26 Ins & Outs Discussion

[Stuwell2]

3 hours ago, weeyin said:

Prudence should be the name of the game even if we get millions for Miller.

The last thing we need to be doing is following the John Boyle Model of Recruitment & Financial Management.

100% agree with you on that, as I’ve said previously I think the majority of the money will go towards a new training ground but I’d also expect some to be reinvested into the playing squad with the hope of getting someone who we can sell on at a profit to what he costs in wages etc 

[MJC]

14 hours ago, Erskine Alpha said:

For talking sake would you take Shankland (potentially 20+ goals) if we sold Miller for a good whack of cash or go with the new managers options? I don’t think it would make sense but if he was willing to come would it be of benefit or a detriment? I’m leaning towards no but this is also not a rumour 

Lawrence Shankland and Motherwell FC can’t even be mentioned in the same sentence whilst keeping a straight face.
 

If reports are correct he is about to sign a three year contract at Hearts which will make him their highest paid player, an offer which clubs like West Brom couldn’t compete with. I doubt even Rangers could have matched what Hearts are paying him.

He is a top drawer striker and he’s at a club that can match his ambition and wages which no other club in Scotland except probably Celtic could dream of matching. 

[MelvinBragg]

1 hour ago, MJC said:

If reports are correct he is about to sign a three year contract at Hearts which will make him their highest paid player, an offer which clubs like West Brom couldn’t compete with. I doubt even Rangers could have matched what Hearts are paying him.

He is a top drawer striker and he’s at a club that can match his ambition and wages which no other club in Scotland except probably Celtic could dream of matching. 

You're right in that he's way out of our league budget wise but if Hearts are spending that much on Fat Larry, it's an act of folly...

[MJC]

14 minutes ago, MelvinBragg said:

You're right in that he's way out of our league budget wise but if Hearts are spending that much on Fat Larry, it's an act of folly...

Why is it folly? He is a proven goal machine and scored 70 odd goals for Hearts in three seasons. Perhaps if Critchley had played him in his proper position (No.9 instead of a 10) last season then that tally would be even higher and Critchley wouldn't have got the bullet when he did. I'm sure McInnes will get the best out of him going forward though.

And 'fat Larry'? I keep reading this from his detractors, usually fans of Aberdeen, Celtic and Hibs. The guy is a professional athlete and there are plenty out there who wish they were as 'fat' as he is.

[MelvinBragg]

4 minutes ago, MJC said:

Why is it folly? He is a proven goal machine and scored 70 odd goals for Hearts in three seasons. Perhaps if Critchley had played him in his proper position (No.9 instead of a 10) last season then that tally would be even higher and Critchley wouldn't have got the bullet when he did. I'm sure McInnes will get the best out of him going forward though.

And 'fat Larry'? I keep reading this from his detractors, usually fans of Aberdeen, Celtic and Hibs. The guy is a professional athlete and there are plenty out there who wish they were as 'fat' as he is.

If they're paying him money that West Brom couldn’t or wouldn't match, that's a lot of eggs in one basket. What if he gets injured? Or he and Sunbed Sammy don't get on? 

As for professional athlete? He doesn't move the quickest for someone in shape...

[Spiderpig]

Last time i checked this was the Motherwell FC in and outs thread. We really need to get more signings to discuss that are relevant to us.

[Throughthelaces]

Let's be real shankland thing isn't gonna happen I'm not a fan of him personally I'd have taken him when he left Ayr he'd have been worth a punt to then sell on but that's long past now. 

What we need is a new goalkeeper or something for us to get excited about that's actually happening or has a feasible chance of happening 

[David]

2 hours ago, MJC said:

If reports are correct he is about to sign a three year contract at Hearts which will make him their highest paid player, an offer which clubs like West Brom couldn’t compete with. I doubt even Rangers could have matched what Hearts are paying him.

Christ almighty.

[grizzlyg]

3 hours ago, MelvinBragg said:

You're right in that he's way out of our league budget wise but if Hearts are spending that much on Fat Larry, it's an act of folly...

Zoom was a classic song

[mio]

5 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Zoom was a classic song

Zoom, just one look and then my heart went boom
Shankands head, is the size of the Moon.

[stv]

3 hours ago, MJC said:

Why is it folly? He is a proven goal machine and scored 70 odd goals for Hearts in three seasons. Perhaps if Critchley had played him in his proper position (No.9 instead of a 10) last season then that tally would be even higher and Critchley wouldn't have got the bullet when he did. I'm sure McInnes will get the best out of him going forward though.

And 'fat Larry'? I keep reading this from his detractors, usually fans of Aberdeen, Celtic and Hibs. The guy is a professional athlete and there are plenty out there who wish they were as 'fat' as he is.

MJC  ❤️ 😘 Hearts .

[grizzlyg]

3 hours ago, mio said:

Zoom, just one look and then my heart went boom
Shankands head, is the size of the Moon.

Next line........loved that joke and so I said Ba Boom 🤪

[Spiderpig]

The green uglies fans seem to think they will be able to sign Miller for £4.5 million, hes played his last competitive game for Motherwell they say, hmmm I can definitely smell shite 🤔

https://flip.it/.belp3

[wellfan]

The next off the conveyor belt. Good luck to the lads.

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2025/07/03/seven-academy-graduates-sign-professional-deals/

[Mccus28]

29 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

The green uglies fans seem to think they will be able to sign Miller for £4.5 million, hes played his last competitive game for Motherwell they say, hmmm I can definitely smell shite 🤔

https://flip.it/.belp3

I would question the sanity of those in charge if they accepted 4.5mil from Celtic for Miller.

 

I cant see that happening at all let alone him wanting to go to them

[Spiderpig]

24 minutes ago, Mccus28 said:

I would question the sanity of those in charge if they accepted 4.5mil from Celtic for Miller.

 

I cant see that happening at all let alone him wanting to go to them

Agreed, I'd like to think he has a lot more ambition in his career to even contemplate signing for that lot.

[dennyc]

Apparently Celtic are about to get £16m for Kuhn having already raked in £4m following Frimpong's move to Liverpool. And some lesser amounts from other departures. So no surprise they are back in for Miller with an increased offer compared to January. But they will still want him on the cheap with a crap sell on clause. That's the transfer model they insist upon and usually  get away with in Scotland. John McGinn being the exception and well played Hibs on that one. 

Following his Scotland appearances, the talk was that Miller and his advisers preferred a move overseas. Hopefully that is still the intention. 

SPECULATION ALERT!  🙁    What I find a bit concerning is the comment that Celtic are aware of the price Motherwell have set. Hopefully purely media talk as they do Celtic's bidding. But it makes me wonder if the Board agreed a release clause of £4.5m when Miller extended his contract? An amount that seemed a good figure back then. IF they did, then then we would have little option if Celtic offered the agreed amount AND Miller wanted to join them. Perhaps in the absence of an overseas/English team meeting or exceeding the release figure.  

At the end of the day Miller and his family will decide where he ends up. Motherwell will be delighted take the money from whoever offers it. That's the reality of the situation . Best we can hope for is that Celtic start a bidding war, with Miller opting to join whoever offers the most. I also hope he makes a choice that works out best for him long term. And I doubt that would be Celtic. He seems more ambitious than that. 

 

[wellgirl]

I don't think Miller will go to Celtic. I think we'll get better offers from elsewhere and he's also seen how well Mika and Max are doing abroad 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-35472897

 

20:57Scott McDermott

Eseosa Sule set for Motherwell loan

Motherwell are set to snap up West Brom striker Eseosa Sule on loan.

The 19-year-old Scot will seal a deal at Fir Park until the end of the season.

Sule - who moved to The Hawthorns from Celtic - excelled for the Baggies in PL2 last term.

He’s just signed a long-term contract at the Championship club.

And new Well gaffer Jens Berthel Askou has beaten off competition to land the front-man.

Sule, who is eligible for Scotland and Nigeria, will add firepower to the Steelmen’s attack as the Danish boss prepares for his first Premiership campaign.

The teenager was being chased by the likes of Lyon and Newcastle before committing his future to West Brom this summer.

Towards the end of last season, he scored nine goals in 11 games in PL2.

The Glaswegian left Parkhead in 2023 for the Midlands before progressing through the ranks.

And now Sule will hope to kick on in Scotland’s top flight for Well.

[Kmcalpin]

1 hour ago, dennyc said:

At the end of the day Miller and his family will decide where he ends up. Motherwell will be delighted take the money from whoever offers it. That's the reality of the situation . Best we can hope for is that Celtic start a bidding war, with Miller opting to join whoever offers the most. I also hope he makes a choice that works out best for him long term. And I doubt that would be Celtic. He seems more ambitious than that. 

I agree in theory about a bidding war, but I'm not sure how that would work, if a release figure has been built into his contract. Say, for example, a figure of £4.5m was agreed. We then receive 2 bids of £4.5 and £5.5 m.  Young Lennon and his dad prefer the £4.5 one as the wages on offer are higher. What then?

[grizzlyg]

1 hour ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-35472897

 

20:57Scott McDermott

Eseosa Sule set for Motherwell loan

Motherwell are set to snap up West Brom striker Eseosa Sule on loan.

The 19-year-old Scot will seal a deal at Fir Park until the end of the season.

Sule - who moved to The Hawthorns from Celtic - excelled for the Baggies in PL2 last term.

He’s just signed a long-term contract at the Championship club.

And new Well gaffer Jens Berthel Askou has beaten off competition to land the front-man.

Sule, who is eligible for Scotland and Nigeria, will add firepower to the Steelmen’s attack as the Danish boss prepares for his first Premiership campaign.

The teenager was being chased by the likes of Lyon and Newcastle before committing his future to West Brom this summer.

Towards the end of last season, he scored nine goals in 11 games in PL2.

The Glaswegian left Parkhead in 2023 for the Midlands before progressing through the ranks.

And now Sule will hope to kick on in Scotland’s top flight for Well.

Sounds promising 

[grizzlyg]

2 hours ago, dennyc said:

Apparently Celtic are about to get £16m for Kuhn having already raked in £4m following Frimpong's move to Liverpool. And some lesser amounts from other departures. So no surprise they are back in for Miller with an increased offer compared to January. But they will still want him on the cheap with a crap sell on clause. That's the transfer model they insist upon and usually  get away with in Scotland. John McGinn being the exception and well played Hibs on that one. 

Following his Scotland appearances, the talk was that Miller and his advisers preferred a move overseas. Hopefully that is still the intention. 

SPECULATION ALERT!  🙁    What I find a bit concerning is the comment that Celtic are aware of the price Motherwell have set. Hopefully purely media talk as they do Celtic's bidding. But it makes me wonder if the Board agreed a release clause of £4.5m when Miller extended his contract? An amount that seemed a good figure back then. IF they did, then then we would have little option if Celtic offered the agreed amount AND Miller wanted to join them. Perhaps in the absence of an overseas/English team meeting or exceeding the release figure.  

At the end of the day Miller and his family will decide where he ends up. Motherwell will be delighted take the money from whoever offers it. That's the reality of the situation . Best we can hope for is that Celtic start a bidding war, with Miller opting to join whoever offers the most. I also hope he makes a choice that works out best for him long term. And I doubt that would be Celtic. He seems more ambitious than that. 

 

Sellik got £3 million for mikey Johnston.   Offer us £12 million  for Lennon and we might be tempted

[joewarkfanclub]

I just dont see Miller wanting to go to Celtic.

Lee Miller is on record saying Lennon is a first team player now and needs first team football at a higher level to develop.

Firstly, not sure he gets that staying in the SPL. Obviously he would be playing with better players but its still the same league.

He could have a chance of Champions League football, but he would be competing with McGregor, Hatate, Engels and McGowan for a midfield spot. Not sure Rodgers drops any of the first 3 in a big game.

Hopefully the David Turnbull experience will have sounded loud enough alarm bells for him and he will take his talents elsewhere. Preferably Europe.....

[dennyc]

1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:

I agree in theory about a bidding war, but I'm not sure how that would work, if a release figure has been built into his contract. Say, for example, a figure of £4.5m was agreed. We then receive 2 bids of £4.5 and £5.5 m.  Young Lennon and his dad prefer the £4.5 one as the wages on offer are higher. What then?

I guess Miller chooses which he prefers. The deal being we allow to let him to go if we receive the release figure which we signed up to. So we would have little choice but to accept his decision. I am certain other players at other clubs have faced that very situation. 

No obligation on him to take the higher offer. Effectively in that situation the player has the power. What’s the option? We refuse to sell to the lower bidder, he digs in and stays until contract end? Joins the Club he wanted to anyway. Goes for a development fee?  Thankfully not with us, but others have gone down that route. Sitting tight I mean. 

Say Celtic offer 5.5 but Napoli offer 4.5 with longer term and better wages.  I assume, as fans, we would be supportive if he chose Italy. As long as we get the release figure which was agreed. But being a good guy he would take the Celtic deal to get us more cash? Or perhaps not. 

But as I said, all speculation. Miller and his Dad will decide and we’ll go along with whatever they choose. Hopefully he has a long list to choose from. Then we put the cheque in the Bank. At the end of the day that is what really matters to MFC. Much as we all want what is best for Lennon Miller money talks. Certainly when it runs into millions. 

[weeyin]

If there is anyone with any business sense in the board, what should happen if Miller prefers a lower bid is that the club (and his agent) tell the lower bidder if they add another million they will get him.

Despite all the speculation in the media, nobody really knows the value of any bids that are made, including the interested clubs.