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3 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

Must be a contender cos......everybody's talkin about him 🤪

You might have got a like on that if you'd said 'everybody's talkin at him'.....but at least i got your attempt 🙂

 

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3 minutes ago, David said:

Personality is all well and good, but I’d take a manager who knows how to get results any day. Neilson might not light up a press conference, but he’s shown he can win games in Scotland.

A win rate of 51 percent across more than 400 matches as a manager. He guided Hearts to the Championship title twice, once in a league that included both Hibs and Rangers, and again in a season with Dundee in the mix. He also led Dundee United to the title.

He’s taken a team to a Scottish Cup final and secured a third-place finish as well. If we’re judging Scottish managers purely on achievements and consistency, I’d say he’s well ahead of Brown at this stage.

 

 

I take your point.

But where's the adventure in that?

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Just now, joewarkfanclub said:

I take your point.

But where's the adventure in that?

If we're looking for adventure, I'd rather we looked overseas. The idea of having Brown, who will be under the media spotlight as a "former Celtic man" throughout his tenure with us isn't really the kind of adventure I want. He'll never be "Scott Brown, Motherwell manager," he'll always be "Scott Brown, former Celtic player and scourge of Rangers."

If we're looking at hiring a Scottish manager, I'd choose Neilson over Brown.

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8 minutes ago, BigCDawg said:

On Twitter or X whatever it's called. Derek Adams has left Morecambe as has new position lined up???

Given Morecambe finished 24th from 24 and lost their League status, I imagine the new position is leaning on the counter at the job centre.

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31 minutes ago, David said:

If we're looking for adventure, I'd rather we looked overseas. The idea of having Brown, who will be under the media spotlight as a "former Celtic man" throughout his tenure with us isn't really the kind of adventure I want. He'll never be "Scott Brown, Motherwell manager," he'll always be "Scott Brown, former Celtic player and scourge of Rangers."

If we're looking at hiring a Scottish manager, I'd choose Neilson over Brown.

If you read my other posts, you will see that I agree. Id rather have neither. My argument was specifically in relation to Neilson v Brown.

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I can't see any teams up here wanting adams after his outburst before he left county and that's not taking into account that he's a shite manager to start with.

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45 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said:

One rumour I did hear recently is our chairman has been in Albania speaking to a potential candidate 

No idea if it is true or not but if so maybe explains the silence about the next guy 

Let's start a wild rumour and say that it's Rudi Vata being interviewed. See what happens.

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18 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

I don't think Brown will be our manager - but it honestly wouldn't bother me if he was appointed. All that matters is that the person appointed can do the job. Like - we had Terry Butcher ex Rangers player and he did OK. What the media think doesn't bother me 

Absolutely 100 percent

I would prefer any manager who has no history to either of the Glasgow clubs . But fully would be supportive to any who have as we never know what could happen

Terry Butcher was one of my favourites and I have said it before.  For anyone with any doubt he took on the role when we were at our lowest.  After the 2002-2003 season when we should have been relegated he done great for us

The one time I remember when fans were all getting behind us, was like an Us vs the rest of Scottish football mentality at that time

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2 hours ago, twistandshout1983 said:

Absolutely 100 percent

I would prefer any manager who has no history to either of the Glasgow clubs . But fully would be supportive to any who have as we never know what could happen

Terry Butcher was one of my favourites and I have said it before.  For anyone with any doubt he took on the role when we were at our lowest.  After the 2002-2003 season when we should have been relegated he done great for us

The one time I remember when fans were all getting behind us, was like an Us vs the rest of Scottish football mentality at that time

We’ve had a fair number of managers who were with the OF:

Roger Hynd      
Davie Hay    
Jock Wallace  
Bobby Watson
Tommy McLean        
Terry Butcher    
Stuart McCall.  
Alex McLeish  
Billy Davies

The only one I had no time for was Jock Wallace who IMO was an ignoramus.

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I heard a rumour last night that Neilson is the guy. I’d normally take this with a pinch of salt but it’s a hearts connection who told me 3 weeks before Halliday joined us that he was coming.

i sincerely hope not and he’s at the wind up but I am a tad worried.

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I'd be OK with Neilson. He has a decent track record in the Premiership, he has experience developing youngsters with Hearts, and he likes to play attacking football.

(And as an ex-full back, might know how to organise a defence).

 

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11 hours ago, El Grew said:

We’ve had a fair number of managers who were with the OF:

Roger Hynd      
Davie Hay    
Jock Wallace  
Bobby Watson
Tommy McLean        
Terry Butcher    
Stuart McCall.  
Alex McLeish  
Billy Davies

The only one I had no time for was Jock Wallace who IMO was an ignoramus.

Also Craig Brown and Mark McGhee.

Agree about Wallace. Quite the contrast to Davie Hay from the previous season.

 

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47 minutes ago, weeyin said:

I'd be OK with Neilson. He has a decent track record in the Premiership, he has experience developing youngsters with Hearts, and he likes to play attacking football.

(And as an ex-full back, might know how to organise a defence).

 

I don't really remember him being big on bringing through youth players at Hearts, or even Dundee Utd. Was it not his Hearts team that was full of old guys like Naismith, Lafferty, Michael Smith etc?

He was hunted from Hearts twice for playing depressing football.

Apart from that we completely agree.

 

Going from Wimmer to Neilson would suggest to me we don't really know what it is we want.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jonesy said:

 

Going from Wimmer to Neilson would suggest to me we don't really know what it is we want.

 

Two very different styles of management, wimmer was around at the right time when we needed someone in, we might not be so lucky this time and as such have to settle for the best of the applicants who actually want the job.

Which might not be who we would like to apply.

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