Motherwell v Morton 22/07/2025 🏆

[FirParkCornerExile]

26 minutes ago, star sail said:

I remember when Gannon started, he was obviously trying to implement a different style of football. I remember the first European game in Airdrie and Steven Saunders had obviously been told not to launch the ball forward. Every time he got the ball he would look up, panic and pass the ball back to the GK. 

I think he was playing left back that evening although I always remember him as a right sided player. I must be wrong on one of these counts unless he switched.

The good news was that Saunders became a decent player under Gannon over the following 6 months. 

Great result last night. It would have been a brave Well fan to call that scoreline pre match.

It would be fantastic if we are seeing the beginning of a cultural shift in the way the game is played at Fir Park. With Martin at Rangers and Rodgers already playing a high energy possession game at Celtic bringing Scottish football into the 21st century, let's hope we are on the right side of the revolution.

The key is stop employing the usual fuds the Scottish Football mafia love who have been hawking themselves round Scottish football for 30 years or more 😉😁 

[FirParkCornerExile]

12 hours ago, Stuwell2 said:

Seen that and thought it was harsh, no players were moving to give him any other option and better to clear the ball rather than end up giving it away in the penalty box. Did the right thing in my opinion. 

Just watched the re run of the game on Premier Sports this morning and you are quite correct he didnt have a lot of options.  

[Ya Bezzer!]

5 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

The key is stop employing the usual fuds the Scottish Football mafia love who have been hawking themselves round Scottish football for 30 years or more 😉😁 

And yet top European coaches came to Largs to learn from us.

There are so many factors that determine national styles of football.

Just for a start we are probably one of the most northerly leagues in the world that play through the winter.  That alone is going to encourage a faster, more direct style of football.

It wasn't that long ago we were playing on mud piles that made possession football very difficult to impossible.

And  I guarantee you if Rangers pump us in a couple of weeks all the positivity on style of play will go right out the window in the typical Scottish fan style and we'll 'need' to win the next match or it will be a 'disaster'.

[Spiderpig]

8 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

 

And  I guarantee you if Rangers pump us in a couple of weeks all the positivity on style of play will go right out the window in the typical Scottish fan style and we'll 'need' to win the next match or it will be a 'disaster'.

Aye that's MJC's post sorted right there.

[Ya Bezzer!]

1 minute ago, Spiderpig said:

Aye that's MJC's post sorted right there.

Well it's more than just MJC.

That's why there is so much pressure on managers to win over developmental coaching.

Fans and the media play a big part in how football is played in this country.

But I also think it's especially acute at Motherwell since we have this 39 year run in the top league.  

Relegation is seen as being catastrophic, even being in the running for relegation, when for most other clubs, our size and much bigger, it's something they've been through multiple times.

 

[weeyin]

29 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

And yet top European coaches came to Largs to learn from us.

They come to learn from the fully qualified coaches who have been trained to the latest UEFA standards using state of the art, data driven training methods and tactics. 

They don't come to Largs to learn how to run up sand dunes or control long balls on worn out plastic pitches.

[weeyin]

16 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

Well it's more than just MJC.

That's why there is so much pressure on managers to win over developmental coaching.

Fans and the media play a big part in how football is played in this country.

But I also think it's especially acute at Motherwell since we have this 39 year run in the top league.  

Relegation is seen as being catastrophic, even being in the running for relegation, when for most other clubs, our size and much bigger, it's something they've been through multiple times.

 

Being in the running for relegation is the price you pay for sticking with the same approach every season.

Given that we have zero chance of winning the league, what's the point of playing the league matches every week?

For me, the point is I want to be entertained.

 

[Spiderpig]

2 hours ago, weeyin said:

Being in the running for relegation is the price you pay for sticking with the same approach every season.

Given that we have zero chance of winning the league, what's the point of playing the league matches every week?

For me, the point is I want to be entertained.

 

If you want to be entertained go to the theatre, cinema etc not to a football match.

What would you class as entertaining football, scoring 4 or 5 goals every game, Barcelona style tipy tappy boring as feck 59 pass moves, blood and snotters hoofball with everyone chasing the ball etc.

If your team wins the vast majority of fans go home happy, the game might have been a total shitfest but if it results in 3 points nobody gives a feck.

Supporting a team like Motherwell is a tough ask, we don't win every week, win a trophy every year, compete in the fantasy world that is the Euro group stages etc.

But having watched Motherwell since 1970, winning a league title, Scottish cup, various Euro adventures, champions league and being a Premiership team for our 40th year now its gave me a lot of entertainment and great memories that greatly outnumber the bad experiences so I think we do OK.

[MFCL84]

8 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

If you want to be entertained go to the theatre, cinema etc not to a football match.

I don't subscribe to this. I certainly go to the football to be entertained. Unfortunately, many of the most recent years have delivered very little entertainment. I did not enjoy watching the Kettlewell era, even when we were winning. I am very happy to see a different approach which, in my view will be very much more entertaining than what has been served up in recent years.

[weeyin]

7 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

If you want to be entertained go to the theatre, cinema etc not to a football match

If you found SK's 15 match run without a win entertaining then more power to you.

[wellon]

2 hours ago, weeyin said:

They come to learn from the fully qualified coaches who have been trained to the latest UEFA standards using state of the art, data driven training methods and tactics. 

They don't come to Largs to learn how to run up sand dunes or control long balls on worn out plastic pitches.

Yet scottish teams with 11 Scottish players used to win European competitions with these methods...times moved on but at the end of the day ,it usually comes down to how good the players are 

[wellfan]

53 minutes ago, weeyin said:

If you found SK's 15 match run without a win entertaining then more power to you.

Many of us didn’t, and that’s why we turned on him over a year before he finally buggered off, lashing out like a victim on his way out. 

[grizzlyg]

For Watt, Slattery and Fadinger what is required is one to shave his head and the other to dye their hair blonde as I couldn't work out who was who for large chunks of the match 🤪🤪

[robsterwood]

Much improvement from Kettlewells so far. Some good signs that we are trying to play passing football. 68 percent possession. Was impressed with Longello and Watt. TW just gets better. Seethe/ anger on Imrie's face at the penalty decision and full time, priceless!

[Kmcalpin]

30 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

 Seethe/ anger on Imrie's face at the penalty decision and full time, priceless!

Which one? There were two. He would have got a better view our Ap Stam's claim than that of his own player's. 

[wunderwell]

On 7/20/2025 at 10:59 PM, wunderwell said:

that's 1/2 points predicted by you in the campaign.

hope you don't have a bet365 account

11 points.

[stv]

5 hours ago, robsterwood said:

 Seethe/ anger on Imrie's face at the penalty decision and full time, priceless!

How's his maw,by the way.

[Spiderpig]

Other results today are not going for us, so its very unlikely we are going to be one of the 3 best group winners and be seeded.

So away at one of the Premiership clubs in the last 16 is looming.

[Andy H]

8 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Other results today are not going for us, so its very unlikely we are going to be one of the 3 best group winners and be seeded.

So away at one of the Premiership clubs in the last 16 is looming.

Or Alloa, Thistle or St Johnstone...

[Spiderpig]

22 minutes ago, Andy H said:

Or Alloa, Thistle or St Johnstone...

I've supported Motherwell a long time we are never that lucky in cup draws, but any of those 3 would be a result.

[texanwellfan]

Looks like hearts thistle and StJ so we’ll be hoping for thistle or saints at home but unlikely to happen. 

[weeyin]

We were unseeded last season and got Killie at home in the first knockout round.

Season before, we were seeded and drew St Mirren away.

 

[texanwellfan]

Old Cliché but true, luck of the draw! 

[dennyc]

25 minutes ago, weeyin said:

We were unseeded last season and got Killie at home in the first knockout round.

Season before, we were seeded and drew St Mirren away.

 

Seeded you don't get Celtic Rangers Aberdeen or Hearts/Hibs last 16 most seasons. Play down the value of seeding if you like but it does give you a better route to the QF. The last 16 draw is a totally different animal if you are seeded. And, looking to your example, St Mirren away is better than Celtic etc away.

Getting through the group is the main thing so job done. But given the advantages the top league team is given throughout the group stage, being unseeded in the next round is an opportunity missed.

 

[MelvinBragg]

Frankly (and I say this every year) seeding in the cup draw is a nonsense. It's not like it was in European football where every single team has has to go through the group stages so finishing first rather than second in the group should entitle you to some advantage. But even there, I'm a bit 'open draw, see what happens'. If the 'big teams' want to win the cup, they need to beat everyone else anyway...